Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Zero reason to cut him right now. Shoot we held onto him this long, waited for every domino and the only one left is injury elsewhere. What's another week and a half lol

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Boast, I am not sure you are aware of what you have just done. You will be eternally blasted for this post as a 'JG lover' .. which sounds like a potential pizza at Pizza Hut, should JG get a traded from Subway to that franchise.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.

because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Boast, I am not sure you are aware of what you have just done. You will be eternally blasted for this post as a 'JG lover' .. which sounds like a potential pizza at Pizza Hut, should JG get a traded from Subway to that franchise.

meh. dont really care what dudes on the internet label me. i know i'm all in on Trey. my friends IRL know this too. that's all that matters to me.

Originally posted by scooterp10:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by scooterp10:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
It does not.

Why not?

Because no draft pick we would be getting from them would be worth the capspace rollover we would be losing next season. Every week we hold Jimmy in the season would cost us almost approx $1.5M in that rollover. So unless you are talking about trading him week 1, holding him into the season makes no sense.

The cap space is gained, not lost.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Boast, I am not sure you are aware of what you have just done. You will be eternally blasted for this post as a 'JG lover' .. which sounds like a potential pizza at Pizza Hut, should JG get a traded from Subway to that franchise.

meh. dont really care what dudes on the internet label me. i know i'm all in on Trey. my friends IRL know this too. that's all that matters to me.

Get a load of the JG lover here

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Zero reason to cut him right now. Shoot we held onto him this long, waited for every domino and the only one left is injury elsewhere. What's another week and a half lol

There's just been teams HELL BENT on not allowing the Niners to get anything or to have to give anything for Jimmy

Once we cut him at the last minute there will all of a sudden be a market for him so either we set our asking price too high initially or we did not want to give Jimmy the chance to join a rival until the season was already underway

This thing is now destined to end with an ugly divorce and a final cut at the last hour

This whole thing is a head scratcher!

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Zero reason to cut him right now. Shoot we held onto him this long, waited for every domino and the only one left is injury elsewhere. What's another week and a half lol

There's just been teams HELL BENT on not allowing the Niners to get anything or to have to give anything for Jimmy

Once we cut him at the last minute there will all of a sudden be a market for him so either we set our asking price too high initially or we did not want to give Jimmy the chance to join a rival until the season was already underway

This thing is now destined to end with an ugly divorce and a final cut at the last hour

This whole thing is a head scratcher!

OR teams simply would rather wait until he is cut and sign him as a free agent than to trade an asset for him.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

To add to that, especially with QBs its highly unusual to for QBs to leave for another team within a division and when trades do form most teams would prefer to trade with a team out of the conference. Not matter how unlikely... its never a good look to a front office when a former QB beats the team that gave him up. So dont do the other team any favors.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:


Having him on the roster for x number of weeks means we lose the rollover capspace that we would be paying Jimmy with. Come on now dude.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
I dont think the argument is the sky is falling if he signs with them, I think the argument is that if it makes no difference to this team why let another team have a head start in getting him prepped. Remove the name from the player, If player A is better than Players B and C, and its a division rival why not make them wait.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Da fuq lol? Why give a division rival any sort of advantage? JG is better than anyone they currently have and may have incite on any tendencies of this offense or even Lance. It typically takes 17 games on film for the league to figure out a QB, why speed that up just for them.

I get it, we are a superior team why be afraid of anyone blah blah blah. It's competition and gamesmanship, we were one inch and one game from going from homefield advantage to a wildcard in 2019. We were a miraculous comeback and one game away from not even making the playoffs last year. Keep any advantage you can and deny other teams that benefit... its not f*ckin rocket science when it comes to competitive sports lol.

Someone made this point a few days ago, and I will repeat it. If teams signing their division rivals former players gave them a competitive advantage, why is this not standard practice? If signing your rivals players truly helped give them incite and knowledge on the team was actually a real thing, wouldnt this be standard practice in the NFL?

Since it is far from standard practice, logic tells us that this isnt an actual thing.

because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

The starting caliber is irrelevant to the point. Because this is about scheme and bringing knowledge of his former team to the new team. I agree with you, that QBs have far more knowledge about scheme and philosophy than position players. So why arent teams desperately trying to pluck their rivals backup QBs then?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

"They are NOT going to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo."@jjones9 breaks down what's next for the Browns at QB after Deshaun Watson was handed an 11-game suspension. pic.twitter.com/mAdgI3f1Ac

— CBS Sports HQ (@CBSSportsHQ) August 18, 2022

Lynch lost the poker game. Just cut him tomorrow. What's the point?

The point is to not do Jimmy nor Seattle any favors.

Why does this simple fact hurt their feelings so much? Lol

Is it possible for you to post in this thread without using the word feelings, triggered, haters, or anything of that nature? My god give it a rest.

Who cares if Seattle gets Jimmy? I find it hard to believe that even the biggest Jimmy fans would believe that Jimmy makes Seattle a threat.

But feelings is exactly what this is about. Because there is nothing logical about cutting Jimmy right now. Him going to Seattle (if that's what happens) now versus going to Seattle a few days before the season starts makes a huge difference. So keeping him is strategic, if only from that standpoint. And if another team's QB gets hurt, then that opens up another trade partner.

The only thing that cutting Jimmy now accomplishes is relieving his haters on the Webzone from the "torture" of having his thread in Niner Talk. I mean honestly how emotionally soft can you be?

Cutting now, I agree doesnt make logical sense. But when we get to the point where all options in terms of trades have been exhausted, then a cut is fine. And maybe we know by the end of the day that there isnt a single team that would trade for him. If that is the case, there is no need to drag this out any longer.

My opinion is cut him as soon as we know we arent making a trade. Whether thats next week, right at the deadline, or in 20 minutes doesnt matter to me.

As long as there are starting QB's going into preseason games, there is a chance of one going down with an injury. So why would we cut him before then? And even if you could guarantee that a) no QB's would get hurt and b) no other team was going to trade for him, why would we cut him now and allow him and Seattle to start practicing together?

I have said this many times in this thread and no one has really responded, but teams simply dont trade for QBs when their starter goes down. It doesnt happen. I asked if anyone can come up with more examples (no one has), but it has happened one time in my lifetime. And that was when the Vikings made a panic trade for Sam Bradford when Teddy Bridgewater went down.

QBs go down all the time, yet almost 100% of the time, teams roll with their backups instead. That is why I dont value the "just in case another QB goes down" line of thinking. Because even if a QB does go down, history shows us that teams will just roll with their backups.