Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

Damn if thats the case that could be Christmas in August lol.

You don't just walk in and take Blaine Gabbert's job

but jimmy can walk right in and take wilsons job and we should be terrified at that

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

Damn if thats the case that could be Christmas in August lol.

You don't just walk in and take Blaine Gabbert's job

but jimmy can walk right in and take wilsons job and we should be terrified at that

So he's going to Denver now lol?

Come on now CC, lets just take a breath and realize you only have two more weeks of JG torture and then you are free.

Originally posted by mayo49:
12 more days of Jimmy G - then it's adios, baby,

$27 million guaranteed if he's on roster after that day right?

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by mayo49:
12 more days of Jimmy G - then it's adios, baby,

$27 million guaranteed if he's on roster after that day right?

Whenever the date it there is zero chance he is on the roster on that date. At this point if some tragedy happened to Lance I get the sense Kyle would rather roll the dice with Sudfield.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Is it just a coincidence that Brady pulled this disappearing act following all the injuries to his Oline?

And I just heard that Wirfs left today's practice with some sort of core injury.

I mean there could be no O-line throughout TC, its not like the D-line can touch Brady anyway.

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

LMFAO. Now we are hoping and praying for a Brady retirement.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

LMFAO. Now we are hoping and praying for a Brady retirement.

Hey, if half the starting QBs in pro football suddenly were to retire.. we would have a real shot here.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by cciowa:
we over valued jimmy... lynch thought the rest of the nfl was stupid... people saw his limitations.. and was not going to give up high picks for him... the shoulder surgery excuse is just that.. lynch over valued our guy..... and here we are.. its just that plain and simple. cut him and move on for gods sake. no one is trading for him.. no one

no one overvalued jimmy lol

lynch did.. he thought the rest of the nfl was dumb but people saw jimmy for what he is. defend lynch.. but you will never convince me otherwise

oh CC..so you can't explain how he overvalued jimmy ? ok

i think it was reported that lynch wanted a couple of high draft picks for jimmy... if true.. that is over valuing. protect him. thats fine

that is not overvaluing.. refusing lower offers would be overvaluing.. we didn't recieve one offer

plus you forgot Jimmy's agent had free range to look for offers since March

as for JL, it's not protecting.. it's just common sense.. which is a rare thing in IA apparently

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

LMFAO. Now we are hoping and praying for a Brady retirement.

Hope hope!

Maybe we can actually get a draft pick for Jimmy if thats the case.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

Damn if thats the case that could be Christmas in August lol.

That guy just wants nothing to do with the damn TC practices in the FL humidity.

Yeah I still think he plays, he doesnt need TC and basically calls his own plays anyways so it's not like there is anything new to install. Maybe he's doing it to avoid the dreaded "arm fatigue"

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by Butter:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/18/the-tom-brady-training-camp-hiatus-gets-stranger-and-stranger/

Brady pulls a last min retirement, Jimmy to the Bucs. Boo-ya

Damn if thats the case that could be Christmas in August lol.

That guy just wants nothing to do with the damn TC practices in the FL humidity.

Fred, old people actually move to Florida because of the warm weather, they have a harder time retaining body heat. It's a classic senior citizen move. Please rethink and repost..

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

The comment was mine. It was logical. And you had / have no counterpoint.

I agree a starting QB will bring more insight than a positional player. But that's not the argument. The argument is whether said information will provide a significant advantage (i.e. victories). History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage. You have not been able to provide a clear connection between the type of information a starting QB may be able to provide, and victories. There are far more examples undermining your position, than supporting it. And there are far more variables at play than you can isolate (which undermines both your argument, and mine).

History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage

this claim doesn't make sense. there's no real similar history to look back on. the former starting QB doesnt end up on a division rival often enough to make this claim. and the QB having more insight than a positional player is definitely part of the "argument"

i'd wager that if you asked Kyle, he wouldnt be happy with JG breaking down his philosophies to a division rival.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

The comment was mine. It was logical. And you had / have no counterpoint.

I agree a starting QB will bring more insight than a positional player. But that's not the argument. The argument is whether said information will provide a significant advantage (i.e. victories). History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage. You have not been able to provide a clear connection between the type of information a starting QB may be able to provide, and victories. There are far more examples undermining your position, than supporting it. And there are far more variables at play than you can isolate (which undermines both your argument, and mine).

History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage

this claim doesn't make sense. there's no real similar history to look back on. the former starting QB doesnt end up on a division rival often enough to make this claim. and the QB having more insight than a positional player is definitely part of the "argument"

i'd wager that if you asked Kyle, he wouldnt be happy with JG breaking down his philosophies to a division rival.

It's not really the philosophy of the offense that is in danger of being revealed by an ex-player, it's all the terminology for checks and audibles that would help the opposing defense. So if Jimmy were to be a Seahawk and spill the beans to Pete Carroll, the 49ers would have to revamp their terminology (and hand signals) when it comes to making audibles at the line of scrimmage. All the other stuff (play designs, scheme) is scouted and seen on film. I agree Jimmy spilling the beans would help SEA, how much depends on how much is different with the 49ers 2022 playbook.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

The comment was mine. It was logical. And you had / have no counterpoint.

I agree a starting QB will bring more insight than a positional player. But that's not the argument. The argument is whether said information will provide a significant advantage (i.e. victories). History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage. You have not been able to provide a clear connection between the type of information a starting QB may be able to provide, and victories. There are far more examples undermining your position, than supporting it. And there are far more variables at play than you can isolate (which undermines both your argument, and mine).

History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage

this claim doesn't make sense. there's no real similar history to look back on. the former starting QB doesnt end up on a division rival often enough to make this claim. and the QB having more insight than a positional player is definitely part of the "argument"

i'd wager that if you asked Kyle, he wouldnt be happy with JG breaking down his philosophies to a division rival.

It's not really the philosophy of the offense that is in danger of being revealed by an ex-player, it's all the terminology for checks and audibles that would help the opposing defense. So if Jimmy were to be a Seahawk and spill the beans to Pete Carroll, the 49ers would have to revamp their terminology (and hand signals) when it comes to making audibles at the line of scrimmage. All the other stuff (play designs, scheme) is scouted and seen on film. I agree Jimmy spilling the beans would help SEA, how much depends on how much is different with the 49ers 2022 playbook.

Thl, don't worry.. we texted the '22 playbook to Jimmy. He'll never see it.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by boast:
because that comment wasnt well thought out or logical. it's an apples and oranges comparison. there's a huge difference between a division rival signing a back up TE or 3rd CB and signing a starting QB who's been in the system for five years. the QB brings far more knowledge of the scheme and philosophy behind it to the rival than a positional player.

and you dont see a starting caliber QB being made available to a division rival often at all.

The comment was mine. It was logical. And you had / have no counterpoint.

I agree a starting QB will bring more insight than a positional player. But that's not the argument. The argument is whether said information will provide a significant advantage (i.e. victories). History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage. You have not been able to provide a clear connection between the type of information a starting QB may be able to provide, and victories. There are far more examples undermining your position, than supporting it. And there are far more variables at play than you can isolate (which undermines both your argument, and mine).

History shows us such information will not provide a significant advantage

this claim doesn't make sense. there's no real similar history to look back on. the former starting QB doesnt end up on a division rival often enough to make this claim. and the QB having more insight than a positional player is definitely part of the "argument"

i'd wager that if you asked Kyle, he wouldnt be happy with JG breaking down his philosophies to a division rival.

Agree 💯%, teams are so even that one or two plays separate a winner from a loser. There definitly is a advantage to having an ex-QB on your team giving you tips on his old team.