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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

this whole idea and notion.. of players revealing secrets is silly and stupid in my opinion. no matter the qb,, how will that help seattle try to account for deebo.

If there was any merit to it at all, you would see teams try to pluck their rival's backup QBs all the time.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

this whole idea and notion.. of players revealing secrets is silly and stupid in my opinion. no matter the qb,, how will that help seattle try to account for deebo.

If there was any merit to it at all, you would see teams try to pluck their rival's backup QBs all the time.

the chiefs used to think after montana... they could poach our quarterbacks and they would be the next niners
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

this whole idea and notion.. of players revealing secrets is silly and stupid in my opinion. no matter the qb,, how will that help seattle try to account for deebo.

If there was any merit to it at all, you would see teams try to pluck their rival's backup QBs all the time.

the chiefs used to think after montana... they could poach our quarterbacks and they would be the next niners

Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
There are a lot of things that QB can reveal.. just cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.
Don't be naive.. like i said just cause you don't hear about it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't help the new team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/see-what-mychal-kendricks-said-about-former-eagles-teammates-hbo-hard-knocks

There is a reason why JG is not practicing, not in meetings and doesn't have a playbook
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Aug 24, 2022 at 9:45 AM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

this whole idea and notion.. of players revealing secrets is silly and stupid in my opinion. no matter the qb,, how will that help seattle try to account for deebo.

If there was any merit to it at all, you would see teams try to pluck their rival's backup QBs all the time.

the chiefs used to think after montana... they could poach our quarterbacks and they would be the next niners

Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

I love the Fearful Jimmy fans. His arm and his head don't miraculously improve when he puts on that god awful uniform. He is still give it away Jimmy. He still can move out of the pocket and he will still be prone to injury. Jimmy will always be Jimmy. The difference is he will actually contribute to us beating Seattle if he is under center for them..
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
There are a lot of things that QB can reveal.. just cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.
Don't be naive.. like i said just cause you don't hear about it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't help the new team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/see-what-mychal-kendricks-said-about-former-eagles-teammates-hbo-hard-knocks

There is a reason why JG is not practicing, not in meetings and doesn't have a playbook

Didn't think about that. Great point!
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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
I love the Fearful Jimmy fans. His arm and his head don't miraculously improve when he puts on that god awful uniform. He is still give it away Jimmy. He still can move out of the pocket and he will still be prone to injury. Jimmy will always be Jimmy. The difference is he will actually contribute to us beating Seattle if he is under center for them..

this is a very good and wise post
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
There are a lot of things that QB can reveal.. just cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.
Don't be naive.. like i said just cause you don't hear about it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't help the new team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/see-what-mychal-kendricks-said-about-former-eagles-teammates-hbo-hard-knocks

There is a reason why JG is not practicing, not in meetings and doesn't have a playbook

Didn't think about that. Great point!

The reason he's not practicing with the team is they have no plans to keep him. Why risk him getting hurt and then being stuck with him. If Jimmy was going to give away any secrets then he already knows them. Kyle doesn't do a new playbook every year.

I looked it up and couldn't find any sites that said it was a big issue. Look at all the players that move around. If it's a big issue then you should be worried about Nick Mullens now with the Vikings.

The only negative about Jimmy going to a rival is the slim chance that they might beat the Niners. The Seahawks always beat the Niners with Wilson often pulling off some big play. I don't expect that from Jimmy. The play books are huge and each team only uses a few plays each week. Good offensive guys disguise their plays and the defense does the same.

I read tha tlink and nothing I saw was any big secret. All things that any good coaching staff and scouts would already know.

Bottom line is if the Niners are going to fear a weak Seahawks team because JG goes there then they aren't real contenders anyway.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Aug 24, 2022 at 11:09 AM ]
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson
Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.
Anyone that wants Seattle to get better are nuts. Jimmy is inconsistent but he's plenty capable of having really good games and it won't help if he has a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended). I'd much rather go against Drew Lock or Geno. These division games are the most important games and fans want the road to be tougher. Crazy
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Anyone that wants Seattle to get better are nuts. Jimmy is inconsistent but he's plenty capable of having really good games and it won't help if he has a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended). I'd much rather go against Drew Lock or Geno. These division games are the most important games and fans want the road to be tougher. Crazy

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Jimmy is an AGENT and is going there to throw high to their receivers and get them hurt.
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson
Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

Its not Jimmy vs Geno/Drew though.

Its Geno/Drew with a full offseason to practice with the team, study the playbook, and build chemistry with their wide receivers VS Jimmy with basically no offseason/limited playbook and no chemistry with their pass catchers.

Not to mention their offense is designed to take shots down the field which is Jimmy's weakness.

That being said, I still think Jimmy is an upgrade but its not like he's going to make a huge difference like people assume he would.
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