Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
There are a lot of things that QB can reveal.. just cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

Don't be naive.. like i said just cause you don't hear about it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't help the new team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/see-what-mychal-kendricks-said-about-former-eagles-teammates-hbo-hard-knocks

There is a reason why JG is not practicing, not in meetings and doesn't have a playbook

Didn't think about that. Great point!

The reason he's not practicing with the team is they have no plans to keep him. Why risk him getting hurt and then being stuck with him. If Jimmy was going to give away any secrets then he already knows them. Kyle doesn't do a new playbook every year.

I looked it up and couldn't find any sites that said it was a big issue. Look at all the players that move around. If it's a big issue then you should be worried about Nick Mullens now with the Vikings.

The only negative about Jimmy going to a rival is the slim chance that they might beat the Niners. The Seahawks always beat the Niners with Wilson often pulling off some big play. I don't expect that from Jimmy. The play books are huge and each team only uses a few plays each week. Good offensive guys disguise their plays and the defense does the same.

I read tha tlink and nothing I saw was any big secret. All things that any good coaching staff and scouts would already know.

Bottom line is if the Niners are going to fear a weak Seahawks team because JG goes there then they aren't real contenders anyway.

you can live in denial, it's not going to hurt anyone. but players do give tips and depending on the player giving the tips.. it could be a major one or nothing

Jimmy being the head of the team for years has inside info. If they were really worried about him being injured.. then they can just release him since there are no trade talks..not even whispers of teams kicking the tires on jimmy

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson

Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

maybe against some teams but if our defense is as good as i am being told... we can handle them and him

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Anyone that wants Seattle to get better are nuts. Jimmy is inconsistent but he's plenty capable of having really good games and it won't help if he has a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended). I'd much rather go against Drew Lock or Geno. These division games are the most important games and fans want the road to be tougher. Crazy

PLOT TWIST:

Jimmy is an AGENT and is going there to throw high to their receivers and get them hurt.

i can just see dk getting pissed. lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
There are a lot of things that QB can reveal.. just cause you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

Like what? Teams prepare for their opponent every week based on the film they have on hand. You can't tell me that the Seahawks don't know Kyle's tendencies by now. Nothing Jimmy could tell them is going to make a difference. The actual game plan changes a little every week so Jimmy wouldn't know what that is. They can easily change up signals so that wouldn't be an issue.

If there was a case of any QB actually having some knowledge that influenced the game it would be a big story. I've never seen one. Look back when Montana went to the Chiefs and they faced the Niners. The Chiefs won but not because Joe divulged any secrets. Their defense just beat the hell out of Young.

Don't be naive.. like i said just cause you don't hear about it.. doesn't mean it doesn't exist or doesn't help the new team

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/see-what-mychal-kendricks-said-about-former-eagles-teammates-hbo-hard-knocks

There is a reason why JG is not practicing, not in meetings and doesn't have a playbook

Didn't think about that. Great point!

The reason he's not practicing with the team is they have no plans to keep him. Why risk him getting hurt and then being stuck with him. If Jimmy was going to give away any secrets then he already knows them. Kyle doesn't do a new playbook every year.

I looked it up and couldn't find any sites that said it was a big issue. Look at all the players that move around. If it's a big issue then you should be worried about Nick Mullens now with the Vikings.

The only negative about Jimmy going to a rival is the slim chance that they might beat the Niners. The Seahawks always beat the Niners with Wilson often pulling off some big play. I don't expect that from Jimmy. The play books are huge and each team only uses a few plays each week. Good offensive guys disguise their plays and the defense does the same.

I read tha tlink and nothing I saw was any big secret. All things that any good coaching staff and scouts would already know.

Bottom line is if the Niners are going to fear a weak Seahawks team because JG goes there then they aren't real contenders anyway.

you can live in denial, it's not going to hurt anyone. but players do give tips and depending on the player giving the tips.. it could be a major one or nothing

Jimmy being the head of the team for years has inside info. If they were really worried about him being injured.. then they can just release him since there are no trade talks..not even whispers of teams kicking the tires on jimmy

I'm not denying anything. You just haven't shown any proof or instances where this has been an issue. You know that if it was a big deal then the NFL would crack down and fine teams. That clip had players talking about a guy with slow feet. Teams know about that. Players can't don't know what game plan their old team is going to use. They don't know which plays are going to be called and in what instances they will be used.

If you know ,tell me what kind of info any player could tell his new team that the team didn't already know. The only thing I can think of is maybe an undisclosed injury but the league is pretty tight on that. I don't know what else he could say that would make a difference in the outcome of the game.

When Sherman came here from the Seahawks I seem to remember hearing the same stuff about how he could help the Niners. How'd that work out. Now Jimmy is better than what they have but I'm not buying the inside info stuff. He's good enough to help them win a couple of games but not against a good team. They just don't have a lot of talent there. In some ways I hope he does end up there and wins those 2 or so games. That might keep them from getting the top QB in next years draft. That would be one of the best things that Jimmy ever did for the Niners.

People talk about Jimmy's winning record, What is Bosa and Deebo's winning record? You know, two players that are actually among the elite at their position. 2019 and 2021 the two seasons the Niners went to the SB and then the NFC championship, Just so happened to be the two seasons that both Deebo and Bosa were healthy the entire season.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson

Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

Its not Jimmy vs Geno/Drew though.

Its Geno/Drew with a full offseason to practice with the team, study the playbook, and build chemistry with their wide receivers VS Jimmy with basically no offseason/limited playbook and no chemistry with their pass catchers.

Not to mention their offense is designed to take shots down the field which is Jimmy's weakness.

That being said, I still think Jimmy is an upgrade but its not like he's going to make a huge difference like people assume he would.

I don't think it matters Geno/Drew had a full offseason to practice with the team. When we traded for Jimmy, he came in and help us win 5 games off the bat.

Brett Favre says 9ers should keep and start Jimmy G over Trey LOL ROFL LMAO... Says the 9er hater, how many times have the 9ers beat down and rob his cheese packing team led by Mr Fartgers the last 5+ years? Too many to count hahaha 🤣 keep counting Favre with old man Fartgers and at least another 10+ more years soon after Fartgers retires from getting robbed some more with Trey Era now and going forward 🤣

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson

Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

Its not Jimmy vs Geno/Drew though.

Its Geno/Drew with a full offseason to practice with the team, study the playbook, and build chemistry with their wide receivers VS Jimmy with basically no offseason/limited playbook and no chemistry with their pass catchers.

Not to mention their offense is designed to take shots down the field which is Jimmy's weakness.

That being said, I still think Jimmy is an upgrade but its not like he's going to make a huge difference like people assume he would.

I don't think it matters Geno/Drew had a full offseason to practice with the team. When we traded for Jimmy, he came in and help us win 5 games off the bat.

It absolutely matters.

Again, and I'm not sure how many times I need to say this, the team we had when we acquired Jimmy BROKE RECORDS for how many games we lost by a single score. That team wasn't awful we just had awful QB play. That's one of the most common points people make about Jimmy but its completely overblown.

Jimmy was good enough to put us over the hump to start winning games by a small margin instead of losing them by a small margin. He was much better than what we had seen recently from that position that fans (including myself) kinda overrated how good Jimmy actually was during those first 5 games. He threw for 7 touchdowns and had 5 picks in those games. Not exactly ALL PRO level QB play but it was compared to Hoyer and a rookie Beathard.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson

Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

Its not Jimmy vs Geno/Drew though.

Its Geno/Drew with a full offseason to practice with the team, study the playbook, and build chemistry with their wide receivers VS Jimmy with basically no offseason/limited playbook and no chemistry with their pass catchers.

Not to mention their offense is designed to take shots down the field which is Jimmy's weakness.

That being said, I still think Jimmy is an upgrade but its not like he's going to make a huge difference like people assume he would.

I don't think it matters Geno/Drew had a full offseason to practice with the team. When we traded for Jimmy, he came in and help us win 5 games off the bat.

It absolutely matters.

Again, and I'm not sure how many times I need to say this, the team we had when we acquired Jimmy BROKE RECORDS for how many games we lost by a single score. That team wasn't awful we just had awful QB play. That's one of the most common points people make about Jimmy but its completely overblown.

Jimmy was good enough to put us over the hump to start winning games by a small margin instead of losing them by a small margin. He was much better than what we had seen recently from that position that fans (including myself) kinda overrated how good Jimmy actually was during those first 5 games. He threw for 7 touchdowns and had 5 picks in those games. Not exactly ALL PRO level QB play but it was compared to Hoyer and a rookie Beathard.

Hoyer/Beathard = Geno/Lock

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah but the Chiefs werent our rivals. I would argue they just did that because they thought our team churned out good to great QBs. They werent plucking them from us in effort to use whatever knowledge to try to beat us like Jimmy fans are fearing will happen in Seattle.

we lose to seattle cuz for some reason we coach scared and play scared vs them.. they punch us in the mouth and for some reason we fold. and of course i think we had a very bad mental block against wilson....... if jimmy plays for them,.. i refuse to think our team will be scared of jimmy like i really think they were of wilson

Our team won't be scared, but Jimmy >>>>> Geno/Drew gives them much better chance at winning.

Its not Jimmy vs Geno/Drew though.

Its Geno/Drew with a full offseason to practice with the team, study the playbook, and build chemistry with their wide receivers VS Jimmy with basically no offseason/limited playbook and no chemistry with their pass catchers.

Not to mention their offense is designed to take shots down the field which is Jimmy's weakness.

That being said, I still think Jimmy is an upgrade but its not like he's going to make a huge difference like people assume he would.

I don't think it matters Geno/Drew had a full offseason to practice with the team. When we traded for Jimmy, he came in and help us win 5 games off the bat.

It absolutely matters.

Again, and I'm not sure how many times I need to say this, the team we had when we acquired Jimmy BROKE RECORDS for how many games we lost by a single score. That team wasn't awful we just had awful QB play. That's one of the most common points people make about Jimmy but its completely overblown.

Jimmy was good enough to put us over the hump to start winning games by a small margin instead of losing them by a small margin. He was much better than what we had seen recently from that position that fans (including myself) kinda overrated how good Jimmy actually was during those first 5 games. He threw for 7 touchdowns and had 5 picks in those games. Not exactly ALL PRO level QB play but it was compared to Hoyer and a rookie Beathard.

Hoyer/Beathard = Geno/Lock

You can name 32 guys better than what SEA is doing they are backup level QBs.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Brett Favre says 9ers should keep and start Jimmy G over Trey LOL ROFL LMAO... Says the 9er hater, how many times have the 9ers beat down and rob his cheese packing team led by Mr Fartgers the last 5+ years? Too many to count hahaha 🤣 keep counting Favre with old man Fartgers and at least another 10+ more years soon after Fartgers retires from getting robbed some more with Trey Era now and going forward 🤣

His reasoning is the same as Montana. They were both replaced by younger players.

Heck I'd take Sudfeld over Geno/Lock

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Brett Favre says 9ers should keep and start Jimmy G over Trey LOL ROFL LMAO... Says the 9er hater, how many times have the 9ers beat down and rob his cheese packing team led by Mr Fartgers the last 5+ years? Too many to count hahaha 🤣 keep counting Favre with old man Fartgers and at least another 10+ more years soon after Fartgers retires from getting robbed some more with Trey Era now and going forward 🤣

His reasoning is the same as Montana. They were both replaced by younger players.

They beat the cheese packers last year in Lambeau with Jimmy G sucking, they will obliterate them with Trey and force old Fartgers to retire for good once and for all, Game Over for the cheese packers for many many more years to come in the NFC 🤣 SORRY FAVRE wishful thinking NOT granted 🤣

Add Seattle too, now that Wilson is gone. 2 teams we won't ever have to worry about ever again in the NFC for a long long time to come.

There is only 1 team to beat, the LAMBS. Once they get beat down it will be Trey Day every year for the NFC. Chances of Stafford winning another SB is pretty low and Brady will most likely retire after this season.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Anyone that wants Seattle to get better are nuts. Jimmy is inconsistent but he's plenty capable of having really good games and it won't help if he has a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended).

Ooooh no. The last thing we'd want to see on the other side of the field is "mad Jimmy."

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Anyone that wants Seattle to get better are nuts. Jimmy is inconsistent but he's plenty capable of having really good games and it won't help if he has a chip on his shoulder (no pun intended).

Ooooh no. The last thing we'd want to see on the other side of the field is "mad Jimmy."

I'm sure Seattle will try to pick up Jimmy once he's cut, but I'm also pretty sure another team will pay more to pick him up, at the end of the day no one will sign him to more than a 1 year or max 2 to a prove it deal.. Seattle is probably trying to tank to get in position to get a top QB next draft and so are some of the other (rebuilding) teams with lousy sub par starting QB who aren't franchise QBs.