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Originally posted by NCommand:
Using common sense, those other stats make sense. Just that one stood out as very odd. 3.40s is a very long time esp. behind our OL. Anything close to 3.0 is almost always a scrambling QB buying extra time. That ain't Jimmy. LOL. He couldn't buy 1 full second if he tried.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Lol you are being ridiculous. And don't ever tout a pressure rate on this site ever again
So you can't. What else is new.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy had 33 dropbacks under pressure in the playoffs. Which was 41.3% of all of his drop backs in the playoffs. He went 12 of 27 for 112, 0 td's, 3 int's, 0 BTT's, 4 TWP's, 6.0 ADOT, 2 drops, 3 BAT's, 4 sacks, 2 scrambles, 3.40 TTT, 8 first downs, and a 16.8 passer rating.
That's the one to question.
Lets not cherry pick what fits the individuals narrative. If you have another source that conflicts with Jimmy's TTT under pressure in the playoffs, I am all for it.
Who's cherry picking? I simply said THAT stat doesn't add up. Not you reporting it.
You said that is the one stat to question. To me, that means that all other stats are fine in your opinion except the one that makes your argument about our pass pro in the playoffs invalid.
Using common sense, those other stats make sense. Just that one stood out as very odd. 3.40s is a very long time esp. behind our OL. Anything close to 3.0 is almost always a scrambling QB buying extra time. That ain't Jimmy. LOL. He couldn't buy 1 full second if he tried.
That sounds like more of an opinion than fact. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm all ears.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy had 33 dropbacks under pressure in the playoffs. Which was 41.3% of all of his drop backs in the playoffs. He went 12 of 27 for 112, 0 td's, 3 int's, 0 BTT's, 4 TWP's, 6.0 ADOT, 2 drops, 3 BAT's, 4 sacks, 2 scrambles, 3.40 TTT, 8 first downs, and a 16.8 passer rating.
That's the one to question.
Lets not cherry pick what fits the individuals narrative. If you have another source that conflicts with Jimmy's TTT under pressure in the playoffs, I am all for it.
Who's cherry picking? I simply said THAT stat doesn't add up. Not you reporting it.
You said that is the one stat to question. To me, that means that all other stats are fine in your opinion except the one that makes your argument about our pass pro in the playoffs invalid.
Using common sense, those other stats make sense. Just that one stood out as very odd. 3.40s is a very long time esp. behind our OL. Anything close to 3.0 is almost always a scrambling QB buying extra time. That ain't Jimmy. LOL. He couldn't buy 1 full second if he tried.
That sounds like more of an opinion than fact. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm all ears.
It would be simple to disprove. Find one set where Jimmy held the ball for 3.40s under pressure. If you can't find one, something is off with that stat. If you can find 33 of them, I'll gladly retract on questioning it. But I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say something is off with that one.
Do you think it's accurate? What were the other playoff QB's? Maybe they use a different operational definition from their regular season metric?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Lol you are being ridiculous. And don't ever tout a pressure rate on this site ever again
So you can't. What else is new.
lol You're the one questioning it because it doesn't fit your narrative: . You go find it and stop relying on YAC to do your legwork like I said. Don't ever reference pressure rate again
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy had 33 dropbacks under pressure in the playoffs. Which was 41.3% of all of his drop backs in the playoffs. He went 12 of 27 for 112, 0 td's, 3 int's, 0 BTT's, 4 TWP's, 6.0 ADOT, 2 drops, 3 BAT's, 4 sacks, 2 scrambles, 3.40 TTT, 8 first downs, and a 16.8 passer rating.
That's the one to question.
Lets not cherry pick what fits the individuals narrative. If you have another source that conflicts with Jimmy's TTT under pressure in the playoffs, I am all for it.
Who's cherry picking? I simply said THAT stat doesn't add up. Not you reporting it.
You said that is the one stat to question. To me, that means that all other stats are fine in your opinion except the one that makes your argument about our pass pro in the playoffs invalid.
Using common sense, those other stats make sense. Just that one stood out as very odd. 3.40s is a very long time esp. behind our OL. Anything close to 3.0 is almost always a scrambling QB buying extra time. That ain't Jimmy. LOL. He couldn't buy 1 full second if he tried.
That sounds like more of an opinion than fact. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm all ears.
It would be simple to disprove. Find one set where Jimmy held the ball for 3.40s under pressure. If you can't find one, something is off with that stat. If you can find 33 of them, I'll gladly retract on questioning it. But I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say something is off with that one.
Do you think it's accurate? What were the other playoff QB's? Maybe they use a different operational definition from their regular season metric?
Originally posted by Waterbear:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by YACBros85:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Hoovtrain:Originally posted by YACBros85:Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by YACBros85:That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
GOOD GOD YOU GUYS MADE ME DO THIS... advert your eyes Mayo.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
GOOD GOD YOU GUYS MADE ME DO THIS... advert your eyes Mayo.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:i think NCs day more tho
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
GOOD GOD YOU GUYS MADE ME DO THIS... advert your eyes Mayo.
You just ruined multiple people day lol
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
Are those stats for all year include the playoffs or just the regular season?
Also, I can take a snapshot of the stat chart if my integrity is being questioned.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
GOOD GOD YOU GUYS MADE ME DO THIS... advert your eyes Mayo.
You just ruined multiple people day lol
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
Are those stats for all year include the playoffs or just the regular season?
Also, I can take a snapshot of the stat chart if my integrity is being questioned.
That was for the entire 2022 regular season. TT is managed by nextgenstats. Maybe PFF is using a different operational definition?
Bro, I said several times I'm not questioning YOU at all or your integrity. You're simply posting what you see.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Give us a reputable source that proves otherwise.
It doesn't even add up with their own stats when 3.26 was the longest TTT of any QB all year.
If this was the case, it would be easy to review the games and see this. Just one of these.
GOOD GOD YOU GUYS MADE ME DO THIS... advert your eyes Mayo.
I use a sundial to time things and if my calculations are correct that was over 3.4 seconds
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
That is what pff says. That is his average while under pressure in the playoffs. Not average from all drop backs.
What does PFF know. Only thing you can trust from them is pressure rate and Tashaun Gibson rating.
So the only thing we can trust is what each individual decides to cherry pick?
Now you're getting it
Show one clip of JG holding the ball for 3.40s then...while under pressure. Let alone 33 of them to average 3.40s. That makes zero sense.
Lol you are being ridiculous. And don't ever tout a pressure rate on this site ever again
So you can't. What else is new.
lol You're the one questioning it because it doesn't fit your narrative: . You go find it and stop relying on YAC to do your legwork like I said. Don't ever reference pressure rate again
You're more random than random here. One has nothing to do with the other. Are you going to talk about hits and sacks now too?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Jimmy had 33 dropbacks under pressure in the playoffs. Which was 41.3% of all of his drop backs in the playoffs. He went 12 of 27 for 112, 0 td's, 3 int's, 0 BTT's, 4 TWP's, 6.0 ADOT, 2 drops, 3 BAT's, 4 sacks, 2 scrambles, 3.40 TTT, 8 first downs, and a 16.8 passer rating.
That's the one to question.
Lets not cherry pick what fits the individuals narrative. If you have another source that conflicts with Jimmy's TTT under pressure in the playoffs, I am all for it.
Who's cherry picking? I simply said THAT stat doesn't add up. Not you reporting it.
You said that is the one stat to question. To me, that means that all other stats are fine in your opinion except the one that makes your argument about our pass pro in the playoffs invalid.
Using common sense, those other stats make sense. Just that one stood out as very odd. 3.40s is a very long time esp. behind our OL. Anything close to 3.0 is almost always a scrambling QB buying extra time. That ain't Jimmy. LOL. He couldn't buy 1 full second if he tried.
That sounds like more of an opinion than fact. If you have proof to the contrary, I'm all ears.
It would be simple to disprove. Find one set where Jimmy held the ball for 3.40s under pressure. If you can't find one, something is off with that stat. If you can find 33 of them, I'll gladly retract on questioning it. But I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say something is off with that one.
Do you think it's accurate? What were the other playoff QB's? Maybe they use a different operational definition from their regular season metric?
Its not up to me to find the proof. Its on you since you are the one questioning the info provided.
