Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
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Jimmy's old NE teammates are right ! what a b

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

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Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

It sucks that Lance never got his Kap vs Bears Monday night game moment to say that's what we traded all that capital for. Second half of the Texans game is the closest we got to that. But that was after a pretty bad first half.

All were left are the same questions we had before the season began. That's the most depressing part of all this.

Originally posted by Franchise408:
Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

So the expectation is he's better from day 1?

Was that KC expectation of Patrick Mahomes?

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

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My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

My stance regarding this season has never changed or even waivered. I believed that a fully healthy Jimmy G might have been better than Trey early on this season, but the expectation was that we hope that with playing every game over the course of the season, that Trey was the better QB come the end of the season and the playoffs. I couldnt care less if Trey wasnt quite as good as Jimmy is in week 2, as long as by the end of the season he was better. Unfortunately, we will never know.

However, after last night, I am not so sure that I can confidently say that my belief that a fully healthy Jimmy might be better than Trey right now, is actually true. Jimmy was so bad last night.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

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Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

He's never "taken" us to a Super Bowl. I do remember him ending up in one, however.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

So the expectation is he's better from day 1?

Was that KC expectation of Patrick Mahomes?

Day 1 no.

Day 540 yes.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the expectation is he's better from day 1?

Was that KC expectation of Patrick Mahomes?

idk what KC's expectations were from day 1, but I also don't recall KC trading away numerous future draft picks to replace a QB who had taken the team to about 6 minutes shy of a Super Bowl championship.

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the expectation is he's better from day 1?

Was that KC expectation of Patrick Mahomes?

idk what KC's expectations were from day 1, but I also don't recall KC trading away numerous future draft picks to replace a QB who had taken the team to about 6 minutes shy of a Super Bowl championship.

So basically you dont know what you are talking about. Got it.

Originally posted by Franchise408:
idk what KC's expectations were from day 1, but I also don't recall KC trading away numerous future draft picks to replace a QB who had taken the team to about 6 minutes shy of a Super Bowl championship.

Um yes they did

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
So the expectation is he's better from day 1?

Was that KC expectation of Patrick Mahomes?

idk what KC's expectations were from day 1, but I also don't recall KC trading away numerous future draft picks to replace a QB who had taken the team to about 6 minutes shy of a Super Bowl championship.

So basically you dont know what you are talking about. Got it.

Eek, just stepped right in it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

My opinion that the obsession with finding a replacement for a QB that took you within approx. 6 minutes of a Super Bowl championship - and giving up *numerous* future draft picks to do it - is absurd.

My opinion is that wasting a roster that is built to *compete now* for the development of one guy, to replace 1 other guy who is good enough to take the team to a competitive level - is absurd.

My opinion is that - yes, if you are going to replace a quarterback with an overwhelmingly winning record, who has taken you to a Super Bowl and a 2nd NFC Championship game appearance (and was about 6 minutes shy of a 2nd Super Bowl appearance in 3 years), then yes, that QB coming in needs to be significantly better on day 1.

Because if not, if the new guy *isn't* better on day 1, what was the point? Because in the time you're spending to develop him, the other 52 players on the roster are wasting their prime years away without competing.

That's horrible roster building design.

And miss me with the "Jimmy fan" b.s. Jimmy is far from irreplaceable, and last night was a trash performance from him.

The whole point is the *team*, and the team is not better off by sacrificing what you have at the position NOW for something you might have at the position LATER, when the rest of the team is ready to compete NOW, not built to compete LATER.

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
So about $800k a game the rest of the year? even if he plays similar to yesterday's game or alittle better, but we still lose... but if we win a few of those an extra 100k..

That's alot of money.

I think you are struggling to math.

I might be reading it wrong, so correct me if you want.

500k a game + 29k if he's active
250k if he takes 25% of a snaps

$779k a game, even if we lose. Not counting his $6.5 guaranteed.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Um yes they did

They did?

Alex Smith was 6 minutes shy of winning a Super Bowl in Kansas City?

Maaan, I must have been working on that Super Bowl Sunday.

Either that, or you guys are cherry picking one part of a statement instead of reading the whole thing.

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Um yes they did

They did?

Alex Smith was 6 minutes shy of winning a Super Bowl in Kansas City?

Maaan, I must have been working on that Super Bowl Sunday.

Either that, or you guys are cherry picking one part of a statement instead of reading the whole thing.

You said nothing wrong.