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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

Who is of that opinion?

I just stated a fact in response to a post about how they are viewed differently.

Trey Lance hasn't been afforded many comments because he hasn't played. Started last year and then missed games due to injury and the same thing happened this year.
Jimmy G. is probably good enough to win 9 games? That seems tough after last night, but it has been done before, twice.
Purdy is the only other option. I don't think he is ready, but if this team goes south from here, better to try him out, especially if we are 1-5.
One week ago, SB bound, next week, let's switch the QB. I guess that's the NFL, take it or leave it.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

He's never "taken" us to a Super Bowl. I do remember him ending up in one, however.

OK, Trey has failed to be able to play 3 games in a row.

He hasn't shown us anything except that he isn't available much.

He will change that next year I hope.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Sep 26, 2022 at 5:47 PM ]
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I know some might think it's a sh*tty thing to do but if it gets to a point soon where you feel the season is lost and Jimmy hasn't hit his incentives yet, I would bench him and start Purdy to save the team like $10 Million. Does anybody know how many games Jimmy needs to start before the Niners owe him $16 Million?

When Jimmy starts a full season since when has a season been lost??

You people need to calm the hell down. Jimmy had no OTA's, Mini camp, training camp or Preseason. Yet you people expect him to step right in and not make any mistakes.

If its arm fatigue than fine. I can accept that. As far as the mental mistakes. No. He doesn't get a pass for those. He can make up for it by giving the rams another old fashion ass kicking though.

Its not just about mental mistakes either, IMO. There's a reason Brandon Aiyuk worked out with Trey Lance in the off season, for timing and chemistry. Jimmy had none of that with the offense this off season. Shoot, Jimmy was already saying his good byes right when the 49ers season ended. He basically wasn't in the game plan at all.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I know some might think it's a sh*tty thing to do but if it gets to a point soon where you feel the season is lost and Jimmy hasn't hit his incentives yet, I would bench him and start Purdy to save the team like $10 Million. Does anybody know how many games Jimmy needs to start before the Niners owe him $16 Million?

When Jimmy starts a full season since when has a season been lost??

You people need to calm the hell down. Jimmy had no OTA's, Mini camp, training camp or Preseason. Yet you people expect him to step right in and not make any mistakes.

If its arm fatigue than fine. I can accept that. As far as the mental mistakes. No. He doesn't get a pass for those. He can make up for it by giving the rams another old fashion ass kicking though.

Its not just about mental mistakes either, IMO. There's a reason Brandon Aiyuk worked out with Trey Lance in the off season, for timing and chemistry. Jimmy had none of that with the offense this off season. Shoot, Jimmy was already saying his good byes right when the 49ers season ended. He basically wasn't in the game plan at all.

How does not seeing and not throwing to wide open receivers equate to a lack of chemistry? How does throwing into double coverage or causing a safety while being untouched equate to a lack of chemistry? That s**t was a deflection of blame in a press conference where he took absolutely no responsibilty for his s**tty performance.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Sep 26, 2022 at 5:58 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I know some might think it's a sh*tty thing to do but if it gets to a point soon where you feel the season is lost and Jimmy hasn't hit his incentives yet, I would bench him and start Purdy to save the team like $10 Million. Does anybody know how many games Jimmy needs to start before the Niners owe him $16 Million?

When Jimmy starts a full season since when has a season been lost??

You people need to calm the hell down. Jimmy had no OTA's, Mini camp, training camp or Preseason. Yet you people expect him to step right in and not make any mistakes.

If its arm fatigue than fine. I can accept that. As far as the mental mistakes. No. He doesn't get a pass for those. He can make up for it by giving the rams another old fashion ass kicking though.

Its not just about mental mistakes either, IMO. There's a reason Brandon Aiyuk worked out with Trey Lance in the off season, for timing and chemistry. Jimmy had none of that with the offense this off season. Shoot, Jimmy was already saying his good byes right when the 49ers season ended. He basically wasn't in the game plan at all.
Jimmy is a ghost in the offsesson.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Jimmy is a ghost in the offsesson.

Yeah he should have been out there this offseason throwing.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Jimmy is a ghost in the offsesson.

Yeah he should have been out there this offseason throwing.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Stop looking for a reason why the situations are different. The Chiefs traded just as much as we did to replace the QB of a team that just went 12-4 and won the division. There is not a cherry picking factor to this at all. Its literally the same thing. The Chiefs traded away a bunch to replace the QB of a team that won a ton of regular season games and couldnt close the deal in the playoffs. Thats exactly what we did.

It's similar. Up until the events of year 2 for the QBs involved. KC got some sort of Favre, Elway, Stafford, Marino, McNabb hybrid. We got the second coming of Tim Tebow.

Basically aside from that it's the exact same situation. I see no difference.

Who we picked and who the Chiefs picked isnt the point. The situations are almost identical.

The Chiefs thought they maxed out with how far they could go with Alex Smith, and traded two 1st round picks and a 3rd round pick to move up and draft Mahomes.

The 49ers thought they maxed out how far we could go with Jimmy G, and traded two 1st round picks and a 3rd round pick to move up and draft Lance.


Mahomes was the pick Shanahan should have made. I think Shanahan knows this and picked Trey over a Jimmy type guy in Jones.
Fingers crossed Trey becomes our Mahomes.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

Who is of that opinion?

I just stated a fact in response to a post about how they are viewed differently.

Trey Lance hasn't been afforded many comments because he hasn't played. Started last year and then missed games due to injury and the same thing happened this year.

You didn't state any fact because he didnt take us to the Super Bowl. The status you have him in is all a figment of your imagination.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

Who is of that opinion?

I just stated a fact in response to a post about how they are viewed differently.

Trey Lance hasn't been afforded many comments because he hasn't played. Started last year and then missed games due to injury and the same thing happened this year.

You didn't state any fact because he didnt take us to the Super Bowl. The status you have him in is all a figment of your imagination.

That is common phrasing for any qb whose team goes to the Super Bowl, no need to get triggered over it.

I am fine with making my point by saying he was the qb of the 49ers team who went to the SB.

Let's not get into a pissing match over unimportant semantics. Those are why these threads are s**t.
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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
facts


So basically posting peoples comments from another website is fact….mmmkay.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by dj43:
Ironic that two first-ballot HOF QBs both had bad games on the same day.

Not ironic at all. I am so tired of these types of posts, dj. The "every QB makes mistakes" type comments. The "all QBs miss receivers" type comments.

There are a handful of plays every game that can be made that will completely change the landscape of the game. More times than not, Jimmy doesnt hit these plays. Frustrating.

My comment was meant to be parenthetical, not specific to JG.

Yeah I know. But those comments were never afforded to Trey Lance. Those comments come up regularly after Jimmy underperforms. Thats the only time stuff like that is posted.

Because for the price the 49ers paid to get Trey Lance, to replace Jimmy G, under the context of "we need to get better", then the expectation is that the new guy IS actually better than what we have, and by a lot, and not doing things similar to the guy that they sacrificed the future to replace.

It's amazing to me that you still can't grasp that concept.

Jimmy has won games and taken this team to the Super Bowl while Trey Lance hasn't contributed anything meaningful to the franchise.

Funny because I'm assuming both of you were okay with giving Trey no reps last season. The opinion that he must be an upgrade with no game reps is absurd.

Who is of that opinion?

I just stated a fact in response to a post about how they are viewed differently.

Trey Lance hasn't been afforded many comments because he hasn't played. Started last year and then missed games due to injury and the same thing happened this year.

You didn't state any fact because he didnt take us to the Super Bowl. The status you have him in is all a figment of your imagination.

That is common phrasing for any qb whose team goes to the Super Bowl, no need to get triggered over it.

I am fine with making my point by saying he was the qb of the 49ers team who went to the SB.

Let's not get into a pissing match over unimportant semantics. Those are why these threads are s**t.

Throw out the "common phrase" trash and try telling the truth. He didn't lead anyone to any Super Bowl and everyone here knows that,...lol.

In the same regard, dont get triggered when someone calls you out for trying to sneak in accomplishments that weren't achieved. If you have to constantly do that, then what does that tell you about the player?

Stop searching so hard for made up lines to say that "sound good." Just deal with the truth,...he's a mediocre to above-average QB, depending on Kyle's game plan, an off-season loafer, and an aged vet that's never commanded the huddle or the respect of the team while here, but is cheered by our guys like a mascot when things are going good.
[ Edited by random49er on Sep 26, 2022 at 6:19 PM ]
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
I know some might think it's a sh*tty thing to do but if it gets to a point soon where you feel the season is lost and Jimmy hasn't hit his incentives yet, I would bench him and start Purdy to save the team like $10 Million. Does anybody know how many games Jimmy needs to start before the Niners owe him $16 Million?

When Jimmy starts a full season since when has a season been lost??

You people need to calm the hell down. Jimmy had no OTA's, Mini camp, training camp or Preseason. Yet you people expect him to step right in and not make any mistakes.

If its arm fatigue than fine. I can accept that. As far as the mental mistakes. No. He doesn't get a pass for those. He can make up for it by giving the rams another old fashion ass kicking though.

Its not just about mental mistakes either, IMO. There's a reason Brandon Aiyuk worked out with Trey Lance in the off season, for timing and chemistry. Jimmy had none of that with the offense this off season. Shoot, Jimmy was already saying his good byes right when the 49ers season ended. He basically wasn't in the game plan at all.

How does not seeing and not throwing to wide open receivers equate to a lack of chemistry? How does throwing into double coverage or causing a safety while being untouched equate to a lack of chemistry? That s**t was a deflection of blame in a press conference where he took absolutely no responsibilty for his s**tty performance.

Don't forget about timing, I also timing.

Tell me did you play any sports or train any type of martial art?? i hate to go on and on about people complaining about the current starting QB but repetitions my friend. Reps help with not only knowing the play but knowing your receivers too. This ain't Madden EA Sports.

This is why I hoped they would've traded Jimmy, 49er fans don't deserve a franchise QB. We'll only turn on them the moment they make a mistake or lose a game.

People crying like the season ends tomorrow. Same s**t every season.
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