Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Same throw people get mad at Lance for not hitting perfectly. Yet our 8 yr vet can't hit it

Lance isn't hitting anyone right now.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said

It'll be like that for until the 2023 season. It's a nice comeback since Lance can't play right now. Even if Jimmy has a 1.0 rating, "still better than Lance". ooohhh gotcha.

You say nice, I say cowardly. Tomato Tomahto

WB, it is what is is. TL was drafted to be the upgrade at the position. He was drafted to be more durable than JG. It ain't cowardly to point out the reality and question why on earth we took a QB power player and thought running him into NFL front sevens after spending three ones would be a wise thing to do.

With just a lil imagination and after watching MNF it's not a stretch to say Micah Parsons perhaps has us holding up the trophy last year, when we had a 10 pt lead in the 4th qtr. Imagine Parsons getting after Staffy with a 10 pt lead. All he needs is one play and it's CIN vs SF in the chip. We know how that matchup turns out.

Faithful,
The problem I have is people making definitive statements about Jimmy or Trey without them being able to defend themselves or mocking players injuries themselves.

We've seen a lot of that recently and woolick's comment isn't bad compared to most of them at all. So I don't mean to pick on him. It just bugs me because you're making definitive statements now that a player is injured.

There's no way of knowing if we would have even made the playoffs last year with Sudfield as our backup. I can't say you're wrong that the team wouldn't be better drafting Parsons, but we don't even know if he would have been the pick and there's so many other variables to act like we know we would have won it all or that drafting Parsons and ignoring the QB position would make this roster better. We have to pay Deebo and Bosa and I'm not sure we could do that with Jimmy on the roster.

You were calling out others recently for showing a negative play of Jimmy(in response to someone saying Jimmy would have made a pass that Trey missed), but when it's about Trey and people are calling him a bust and scrub when he can't defend himself, you agree with them. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
WB, it is what is is. TL was drafted to be the upgrade at the position. He was drafted to be more durable than JG. It ain't cowardly to point out the reality and question why on earth we took a QB power player and thought running him into NFL front sevens after spending three ones would be a wise thing to do.

With just a lil imagination and after watching MNF it's not a stretch to say Micah Parsons perhaps has us holding up the trophy last year, when we had a 10 pt lead in the 4th qtr. Imagine Parsons getting after Staffy with a 10 pt lead. All he needs is one play and it's CIN vs SF in the chip. We know how that matchup turns out.

Can we just get something straight in here please…the play he got hurt on was not QB power. It was a read option…It wasn't a designed play for him to just run. I wish people would at least get the play correct. I get being frustrated about running him up the A gap and holding our breath every time he gets hit. Toss that s**t in the trash. Read options should still be part of the game plan though.

The QB still f**ked up all the same last yr in the NFCC. Missed reads, INTs and inaccurate passes. Our pass rush was just fine. We needed to get another QB in here to groom (if we couldn't land a big fish via trade). Jimmy imo was never getting a massive extension regardless.

Your first point.. I realize it's not QB power on the play he got injured. I never said that. You act like I did. But I didn't. I said he's a QB power player. He is. He ran that at NDSU all day.
Second point.. it is a designed run in the sense it's an option and if he doesn't hand off he keeps and runs into DL and LBs. That's the design of the play.
Third point.. with a 10 point lead and Parsons we don't lose the lead. It's my opinion. You can believe he would make zero difference and be a total non factor in a 3 pt game if you like. That's what's great we can all see it different it's what makes a forum.
Fourth point.. are we grooming TL? I recall you saying last year that we should throw the season in the trash essentially and just play TL and eat L's. His development was more important than the team he needs snaps. A lot of ppl posted along those lines. Assuming we wouldn't make it as far as we did. Well if he needs snaps in games.. he's not getting them. I say we still need a QB as we go into 2023. Hard to simply roll TL with no plan B after this season.

"Your plays suck man"

LOL

This season going down the s**tter with a quickness.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
It just bugs me because you're making definitive statements now that a player is injured.

Ppl may be getting it twisted. It's not definitive statements imo about his career. It's more like a definitive statement about his first two years. You can make definitive statements about his first 2 years cuz they are in the books.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Same throw people get mad at Lance for not hitting perfectly. Yet our 8 yr vet can't hit it

Lance isn't hitting anyone right now.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I said

It'll be like that for until the 2023 season. It's a nice comeback since Lance can't play right now. Even if Jimmy has a 1.0 rating, "still better than Lance". ooohhh gotcha.

It isn't a gotcha, it is a fact.
Jimmy is better than Lance this year.

People complaining about how Jimmy gets a pass for things Lance doesn't is a dumb topic because Lance hasn't played at all essentially. He hasn't proven anything yet.

The post I responded to had nothing to do with Jimmy's play, it was complaining about how Trey is being treated on the Internet.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
It just bugs me because you're making definitive statements now that a player is injured.

Ppl may be getting it twisted. It's not definitive statements imo about his career. It's more like a definitive statement about his first two years. You can make definitive statements about his first 2 years cuz they are in the books.

What does your statement then conclude, football-wise? We're listening.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

And now, the yards left on the field. Try & think about what Shanahan wants in these plays. He's a hi/lo gawd. The QB should be throwing away from the safety rotation. The underneath routes suck up the LBs, leaving the second level wide open. It's there. Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/GfOVCBGIGp

— KP (@KP_Show) September 26, 2022

To be fair, the first play on the video, Jimmy had the right guy targeted. The ball was deflected at the line.

LMAO what?

To be fair, Jimmy might have thrown an interception if the ball wasnt deflected at the line. Cmon Jake SMFH.

Originally posted by TTown9ers:
"Your plays suck man"

LOL

This season going down the s**tter with a quickness.

Eh, kinda already did the moment Lance got Injured..

Back to square one, for now at least

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He did? Imo that ball was going to Kittle not BA downfield.

Hard to tell, but you may be right. Still not a horrible choice if not the best one available. It doesn't matter since the line didn't keep the DL out of the play.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
It just bugs me because you're making definitive statements now that a player is injured.

Ppl may be getting it twisted. It's not definitive statements imo about his career. It's more like a definitive statement about his first two years. You can make definitive statements about his first 2 years cuz they are in the books.

Saying, "Trey wouldn't have made the playoffs this year" is not a comment on the previous two seasons, it's a baseless projection. You agreed that Trey is a bust and garbage QB after 3 games. Unless you think a player can't improve after his first 3 full games, that's also a statement about the future. I think you're getting it twisted.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It isn't a gotcha, it is a fact.
Jimmy is better than Lance this year.

People complaining about how Jimmy gets a pass for things Lance doesn't is a dumb topic because Lance hasn't played at all essentially. He hasn't proven anything yet.

Lol,...your logic is completely reversed.

Since Jimmy HAS played...he shouldnt get a pass for things much less experienced players may (or may not) get a pass for.

The onus is on Jimmy.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
LMAO what?

To be fair, Jimmy might have thrown an interception if the ball wasnt deflected at the line. Cmon Jake SMFH.

I know what you're looking at, but I am not so sure about that. The ball could have been high, giving Kittle the only shot at it or it could be faster than the defensive player coming down. The deflection happened to close to the pass for me to be able to tell. Are you saying with a 100% certainty, you can?

People talk about giving your best players a chance to make a play...I think that is what he was doing here. I do agree that there was a much better option...I just don't think this one was bad.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Your first point.. I realize it's not QB power on the play he got injured. I never said that. You act like I did. But I didn't. I said he's a QB power player. He is. He ran that at NDSU all day.
Second point.. it is a designed run in the sense it's an option and if he doesn't hand off he keeps and runs into DL and LBs. That's the design of the play.
Third point.. with a 10 point lead and Parsons we don't lose the lead. It's my opinion. You can believe he would make zero difference and be a total non factor in a 3 pt game if you like. That's what's great we can all see it different it's what makes a forum.
Fourth point.. are we grooming TL? I recall you saying last year that we should throw the season in the trash essentially and just play TL and eat L's. His development was more important than the team he needs snaps. A lot of ppl posted along those lines. Assuming we wouldn't make it as far as we did. Well if he needs snaps in games.. he's not getting them. I say we still need a QB as we go into 2023. Hard to simply roll TL with no plan B after this season.

It was QB Power on the play he got injured. Meaning, it wasn't zone blocking on that play, it was a Power play but with a QB, so it was QB Power. (just do a search on Power Play and you'll see it drawn up; OL pulling, there's a kickout block, and a lead blocker)
There was a 'read' element to that play so technically it was a Power Read. Thanks, Heroism for pointing this out.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

It just bugs me because you're making definitive statements now that a player is injured.

Ppl may be getting it twisted. It's not definitive statements imo about his career. It's more like a definitive statement about his first two years. You can make definitive statements about his first 2 years cuz they are in the books.

Saying, "Trey wouldn't have made the playoffs this year" is not a comment on the previous two seasons, it's a baseless projection. You agreed that Trey is a bust and garbage QB after 3 games. Unless you think a player can't improve after his first 3 full games, that's also a statement about the future. I think you're getting it twisted.

I liked the 49ers chances for the playoffs with Lance this year. A lot.

I'm not giving up yet. Jimmy didn't have an off season to practice with the team. He can get better. Kyle can get better. Our OL needs to get better (or Kyle needs to change his game plans).