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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

You nailed it. They won't be ready for BA, Deebo and the yac attack. Just put it on em.. spend the week getting that right. Sometimes this is simple stuff. Can you do it? JG gonna crush it.

Eh....that is what a good QB should be able to exploit. 8 in the box.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

This was the nicest post someone has made in this thread in a long time.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

This was the nicest post someone has made in this thread in a long time.
it was sarcasm
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

This was the nicest post someone has made in this thread in a long time.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

This was the nicest post someone has made in this thread in a long time.
it was sarcasm

Nope.
  • thl408
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

1.5 gap is to help with defending the pass. It allows the defense to play with two safeties back while not suffering in the run game (theoretically).

To defend the wide zone running game, it's more about the 5-2 and 6-1 alignments where the Edge defenders are aligned wide outside of the OTs. Similar to the wide 9 but with more than just four DL.

The other schematic change to defend outside zone runs is to use Bear fronts, 3 down linemen aligned inside of the OTs.
Originally posted by Silky:
How's this scenario:

It's late December. Jimmy has been playing mediocre to good at times. He gets us to 9 wins and a wild card playoff Berth. Lance has been ready for nearly 2 weeks now. Even though Jimmy got us to 9 wins, he was not impressive.

You're Kyle Shanahan sitting at your expensive oak shined desk. Lance walks in and states he is ready to start again. You already stated to the media Lance was shutdown for the year. The doctors and Lance prove his ankle is fully healed.

Would you let Lance start?

Now you're the janitor. Someone stole your pringles. You walk into the Niners locker room. You see Kittle naked. Kittle doesn't hesitate and gives you a head nod while eating your Pringles.

What do you do?

nope let him heal for next yr

take a steel chair to kittles knee. DONT TOUCH MY CHIPS
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

1.5 gap is to help with defending the pass. It allows the defense to play with two safeties back while not suffering in the run game (theoretically).

To defend the wide zone running game, it's more about the 5-2 and 6-1 alignments where the Edge defenders are aligned wide outside of the OTs. Similar to the wide 9 but with more than just four DL.

The other schematic change to defend outside zone runs is to use Bear fronts, 3 down linemen aligned inside of the OTs.

Not to sound condescending but I know what its used for. What I was looking to find is an explanation of how it works schematically; assignments, responsibilities, etc.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

1.5 gap is to help with defending the pass. It allows the defense to play with two safeties back while not suffering in the run game (theoretically).

To defend the wide zone running game, it's more about the 5-2 and 6-1 alignments where the Edge defenders are aligned wide outside of the OTs. Similar to the wide 9 but with more than just four DL.

The other schematic change to defend outside zone runs is to use Bear fronts, 3 down linemen aligned inside of the OTs.

Not to sound condescending but I know what its used for. What I was looking to find is an explanation of how it works schematically; assignments, responsibilities, etc.

My post was for NC and how he said 1.5 gap is for destroying the wide zone run game. This video is good.
[ Edited by thl408 on Sep 27, 2022 at 2:51 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Regardless you're tossing your TE into what could be a massive collision. Jimmy doesn't know if he's gonna play the ball or try to knock out Kittle.

No. That could not be a massive collision. Even IF the safety had wanted to make a hit on Kittle. Kittle is much bigger, behind the safety, the safety is sideways and not running full speed, Kittle just finished turning in and isn't at full speed either. The only thing really dangerous about that play is if Jimmy didn't put the ball right it could have been a pick...or if he put it up too high forcing kittle to jump.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Sep 27, 2022 at 2:57 PM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

The 1.5 gap DL. That's become the gold standard from destroying our OZ run game and if you have the pass rush to tee off after that, you're in great position to kill our offense playing right into our two biggest weaknesses (QB + PP).

Do you have a link for the 1.5 gap DL? I would like to learn more about it.

If the current QB cannot take advantage of the deeper routes when they are open, this offense will continue to turn its tires in the mud. Sometimes you have to stand tall in the pocket and take a hit in order to make the defense pay for cheating. Just like the RB's and WR's on this team. If one guy isn't getting it done, next man up.

I believe it's been dropped in the Demeco Ryans thread. You might just have to go back a few pages

Thank you.

1.5 gap is to help with defending the pass. It allows the defense to play with two safeties back while not suffering in the run game (theoretically).

To defend the wide zone running game, it's more about the 5-2 and 6-1 alignments where the Edge defenders are aligned wide outside of the OTs. Similar to the wide 9 but with more than just four DL.

The other schematic change to defend outside zone runs is to use Bear fronts, 3 down linemen aligned inside of the OTs.

Not to sound condescending but I know what its used for. What I was looking to find is an explanation of how it works schematically; assignments, responsibilities, etc.

My post was for NC and how he said 1.5 gap is for destroying the wide zone run game. This video is good.

Very nice breakdown. Thank you.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Heroism:
It's kind of hard to run the ball when teams are consistently trotting out 3 IDL on the field with 5 guys on the LOS. Rams are going to do the same s**t next week.

Do you think this happened in the NFC championship as well or just this season? Because I thought it was concluded by some that they weren't cheating up.

When the Niners were in 21 personnel in the NFCC, the Rams would counter with 3 interior DL and play 5-2/6-1 alignments with a ton of tite fronts. There were a few plays where the Rams even had 4(f**king FOUR) interior DL on the field with 6 guys on the LOS. That's three 300 lbs+ dudes and Aaron Donald. A'Shawn Robinson destroyed us in that game.
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