Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Also, Jimmy has a tendency to not step up into the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges even though the middle is clean and their is a clear throwing lane.

For sure. But his two ankle injuries were from the A gap immediately. Not many QB's are escaping those.

What does that have to do with him not climbing the pocket to earn himself a little more time? He's traumatized? When he opts to escape left/right out of the pocket, I wonder to myself if he thinks he's faster than he actually is.

This is something I've noticed about him over the years. Definitely overestimates his own escapability.

He has no clue what to do when the play is off schedule. It has not improved in 6 years. When JG starts ad libbing close your eyes and pray. You think this would be a coaching point..

didn't you say let jimmy cook ? lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Also, Jimmy has a tendency to not step up into the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges even though the middle is clean and their is a clear throwing lane.

For sure. But his two ankle injuries were from the A gap immediately. Not many QB's are escaping those.

What does that have to do with him not climbing the pocket to earn himself a little more time? He's traumatized? When he opts to escape left/right out of the pocket, I wonder to myself if he thinks he's faster than he actually is.

This is something I've noticed about him over the years. Definitely overestimates his own escapability.

He has no clue what to do when the play is off schedule. It has not improved in 6 years. When JG starts ad libbing close your eyes and pray. You think this would be a coaching point..

didn't you say let jimmy cook ? lol

Yessir. Meaning when that back foot hits balls gotta be out. As soon as he starts running around we have ourselves a problem.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Also, Jimmy has a tendency to not step up into the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges even though the middle is clean and their is a clear throwing lane.

For sure. But his two ankle injuries were from the A gap immediately. Not many QB's are escaping those.

What does that have to do with him not climbing the pocket to earn himself a little more time? He's traumatized? When he opts to escape left/right out of the pocket, I wonder to myself if he thinks he's faster than he actually is.

This is something I've noticed about him over the years. Definitely overestimates his own escapability.

He has no clue what to do when the play is off schedule. It has not improved in 6 years. When JG starts ad libbing close your eyes and pray. You think this would be a coaching point..

didn't you say let jimmy cook ? lol

Yessir. Meaning when that back foot hits balls gotta be out. As soon as he starts running around we have ourselves a problem.

thats not cooking

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Also, Jimmy has a tendency to not step up into the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges even though the middle is clean and their is a clear throwing lane.

For sure. But his two ankle injuries were from the A gap immediately. Not many QB's are escaping those.

What does that have to do with him not climbing the pocket to earn himself a little more time? He's traumatized? When he opts to escape left/right out of the pocket, I wonder to myself if he thinks he's faster than he actually is.

This is something I've noticed about him over the years. Definitely overestimates his own escapability.

He has no clue what to do when the play is off schedule. It has not improved in 6 years. When JG starts ad libbing close your eyes and pray. You think this would be a coaching point..

didn't you say let jimmy cook ? lol

Yessir. Meaning when that back foot hits balls gotta be out. As soon as he starts running around we have ourselves a problem.

thats not cooking

Sure it is you can cook up a storm doing that. I don't recall Peyton or TB12 doing a lot of off schedule run around cooking. It's called pocket passing homie.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yessir. Meaning when that back foot hits balls gotta be out. As soon as he starts running around we have ourselves a problem.

That requires Jimmy actually understanding what to do post snap. Overall he has not been good doing that. It's been very inconsistent.

the pass plays are there for the taking. Guys are open and he has elite level skilled players all around him. Fans are asking him to make the correct reads and hit guys a little more consistently.

There is no "let Jimmy cook" he's not a chef in regards to playing the position…just manage the offense enough to put points on the board for the rest of the yr.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Also, Jimmy has a tendency to not step up into the pocket when pressure is coming from the edges even though the middle is clean and their is a clear throwing lane.

For sure. But his two ankle injuries were from the A gap immediately. Not many QB's are escaping those.

What does that have to do with him not climbing the pocket to earn himself a little more time? He's traumatized? When he opts to escape left/right out of the pocket, I wonder to myself if he thinks he's faster than he actually is.

This is something I've noticed about him over the years. Definitely overestimates his own escapability.

He has no clue what to do when the play is off schedule. It has not improved in 6 years. When JG starts ad libbing close your eyes and pray. You think this would be a coaching point..

didn't you say let jimmy cook ? lol

Yessir. Meaning when that back foot hits balls gotta be out. As soon as he starts running around we have ourselves a problem.

thats not cooking

Sure it is you can cook up a storm doing that. I don't recall Peyton or TB12 doing a lot of off schedule run around cooking. It's called pocket passing homie.

we're not talking about TB or Pay though... they are good at reading the defense and progressions.

We're talking about cooking, meaning, all your talk of Kyle holding back Jimmy and not letting him cook remember ?

now your saying the very strength of jimmy (your words right after the seattle game) is now his major weakness... lol

just see jimmy as what he is, stop all the excuses.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sure it is you can cook up a storm doing that. I don't recall Peyton or TB12 doing a lot of off schedule run around cooking. It's called pocket passing homie.

If you're gonna be a pure in the pocket QB like Brady/manning, you have to be elite at processing pre/post. Your mechanics have to be crisp. You can't fold like a lawn chair under pressure and you NEED pocket awareness (knowing when to move up in the pocket/moving within the pocket and understand when the play is dead). Jimmy is inconsistent at all of this.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we're not talking about TB or Pay though... they are good at reading the defense and progressions.

We're talking about cooking, meaning, all your talk of Kyle holding back Jimmy and not letting him cook remember ?

now your saying the very strength of jimmy (your words right after the seattle game) is now his major weakness... lol

just see jimmy as what he is, stop all the excuses.

People still keep bringing up 5 pointless games in 2017, which is a lifetime ago in the NFL. Yes we were excited because he wasn't the pure dog s**t we've had at QB for a while.

No teams had really any film on him at that point either. I've gone back and watched some of his throws, there was a ton of passes that could have very well been incomplete (if not for a great catch) or picked off all the same. He wasn't Tom Brady accurate by any means. Luck is a funny thing, but over time a lot of things just regress toward the mean. That's not saying he blows….what happened Sunday is kinda the same thing in reverse. He will play better but not so much better than he's been over the course of his career at this pt imo.

anyone that thinks kyle and this offense is holding back Jimmy, either doesn't watch the film or is dealing with some weird bias.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we're not talking about TB or Pay though... they are good at reading the defense and progressions.

We're talking about cooking, meaning, all your talk of Kyle holding back Jimmy and not letting him cook remember ?

now your saying the very strength of jimmy (your words right after the seattle game) is now his major weakness... lol

just see jimmy as what he is, stop all the excuses.

People still keep bringing up 5 pointless games in 2017, which is a lifetime ago in the NFL. Yes we were excited because he wasn't the pure dog s**t we've had at QB for a while.

No teams had really any film on him at that point either. I've gone back and watched some of his throws, there was a ton of passes that could have very well been incomplete (if not for a great catch) or picked off all the same. He wasn't Tom Brady accurate by any means. Luck is a funny thing, but over time a lot of things just regress toward the mean. That's not saying he blows….what happened Sunday is kinda the same thing in reverse. He will play better but not so much better than he's been over the course of his career at this pt imo.

anyone that thinks kyle and this offense is holding back Jimmy, either doesn't watch the film or is dealing with some weird bias.

with the performance and the blame game by jimmy.. i'm not sure if he's going in self preserve mode rather than show the world mode for next year

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we're not talking about TB or Pay though... they are good at reading the defense and progressions.

We're talking about cooking, meaning, all your talk of Kyle holding back Jimmy and not letting him cook remember ?

now your saying the very strength of jimmy (your words right after the seattle game) is now his major weakness... lol

just see jimmy as what he is, stop all the excuses.

I got Darth Vader join me vibes on this line

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we're not talking about TB or Pay though... they are good at reading the defense and progressions.

We're talking about cooking, meaning, all your talk of Kyle holding back Jimmy and not letting him cook remember ?

now your saying the very strength of jimmy (your words right after the seattle game) is now his major weakness... lol

just see jimmy as what he is, stop all the excuses.

I got Darth Vader join me vibes on this line

far from it...

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Polka, imo YES

Realize we signed JG in Feb 2018 to a then record $137,000,000.

When you have a QB signed to that amount, you put somewhere in the contract that you can take dumbass hits. KC players blamed JG postgame. He had the boundary. It was avoidable contact. As soon as you sign him to that deal you spend at least some time coaching up throwing away, sliding, and sure its football there will be hits but dumb unnecessary ones... you cannot have those. It was 100% preventable. I'm guessing KS never drilled any self preservation into JG. And if he did, he didn't do it well enough, it didn't stick.

So, just to be clear, it's Kyle's fault when Jimmy makes a bad decision. Gotcha. So, when Jimmy throws an interception it's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency. When Jimmy ran out of the end zone / threw a pick six, it's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency. When Jimmy waited to have shoulder surgery, screwing over not just himself, but the 49ers, that's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency.

And when Jimmy makes good decisions, are you saying that's all Jimmy? Because if you're going to attribute Jimmy's poor decisions to Kyle, you have to be consistent and attribute Jimmy's good decisions to Kyle. Which renders moot your entire schtick talking about how good Jimmy is. What you've been meaning to say is how good Kyle is. Let Kyle cook. Etc.

And no....2018 is Jimmy's fault. Or maybe Jimmy didn't understand what that huge white line was to his left. That would explain the stupid safety he took last week in Denver. Maybe he's color blind. Kyle's fault, right? Consistency.

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Polka, imo YES

Realize we signed JG in Feb 2018 to a then record $137,000,000.

When you have a QB signed to that amount, you put somewhere in the contract that you can take dumbass hits. KC players blamed JG postgame. He had the boundary. It was avoidable contact. As soon as you sign him to that deal you spend at least some time coaching up throwing away, sliding, and sure its football there will be hits but dumb unnecessary ones... you cannot have those. It was 100% preventable. I'm guessing KS never drilled any self preservation into JG. And if he did, he didn't do it well enough, it didn't stick.

So, just to be clear, it's Kyle's fault when Jimmy makes a bad decision. Gotcha.

Polka, that's not something I have said or believe. I listen to Steve Young he said, as a young QB you want to run thru guys.. show your teammates you are willing to put it all on the line. Notice we have had 2 QBs go down this way. It's up to a coach to be the older wiser individual.. take the long view and say no you are too valuable for me to be standing around on the sideline watching the cart come out for preventable BS. If he sat both them down and said look we invested too much and we are gonna fine you guys if you take dumb shots you can slide to avoid.. none of this happens.

It's just my 2 cents on this.

BOUNCE BACK GAME FOR JIMMY AND THE WHOLE OFFENSE!

Originally posted by Polkadots:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Polka, imo YES

Realize we signed JG in Feb 2018 to a then record $137,000,000.

When you have a QB signed to that amount, you put somewhere in the contract that you can take dumbass hits. KC players blamed JG postgame. He had the boundary. It was avoidable contact. As soon as you sign him to that deal you spend at least some time coaching up throwing away, sliding, and sure its football there will be hits but dumb unnecessary ones... you cannot have those. It was 100% preventable. I'm guessing KS never drilled any self preservation into JG. And if he did, he didn't do it well enough, it didn't stick.

So, just to be clear, it's Kyle's fault when Jimmy makes a bad decision. Gotcha. So, when Jimmy throws an interception it's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency. When Jimmy ran out of the end zone / threw a pick six, it's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency. When Jimmy waited to have shoulder surgery, screwing over not just himself, but the 49ers, that's Kyle's fault, right? Consistency.

And when Jimmy makes good decisions, are you saying that's all Jimmy? Because if you're going to attribute Jimmy's poor decisions to Kyle, you have to be consistent and attribute Jimmy's good decisions to Kyle. Which renders moot your entire schtick talking about how good Jimmy is. What you've been meaning to say is how good Kyle is. Let Kyle cook. Etc.

And no....2018 is Jimmy's fault. Or maybe Jimmy didn't understand what that huge white line was to his left. That would explain the stupid safety he took last week in Denver. Maybe he's color blind. Kyle's fault, right? Consistency.

Calling a long developing 7 step drop pass play from your own end zone is one of the dumbest plays I've seen.
Could have easily been holding in the end zone for a safety.
Can't put your players in that spot.

Jimmy should have changed the play to a run.

Bad plays are everyone's fault.