Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Lol why is it many Americans cannot understand sarcasm when they see it? The whole Trey is our saviour brigade feel so butt hurt when anyone questions that he is an unproven very raw rookie who has not proven himself at all. He has won only one game and has been injured in some way every time he has played. He has a slow release and Kyle tried to overcome that by designing run plays. Well that broke him quickly. So in year three he hasnt progressed. By then he would have played 3.1 NFL games and be recovering from a nasty break. Excuse me for not feeling optimistic that he is going to start next year from the beginning and lead us to the SB. Like people thought he would last year and this year.

Before you dis me too much remember I was the one who said JG would still be on the roster this year. Ya'll poowhoed that didn't you?

Are you optimistic about what you saw on Sunday?

Oh that's right only Jimmy deserves patience

It is what is expected when the whole offense was set up with Trey in mind and when the expected JG out the door. I also remember a game when Aiyuk dropped a perfect long pass and so did Jennings from memory. That is the timing thing that will get better when these guys haven't practiced much. It is clear against the Seahawks JG was a bit more off the leash and it worked. KS reined that in and looked what happened. Kyle's plays work well but it takes a lot of practice to get all the pieces moving in sync. The problem with complexity is if one component is not working in sync it derails everything. And that is the vulnerability in Kyle's playbook. You can out clever yourself at times.

So you ask me if I am optimistic. The answer is I expect the coordination of the plays to get smoother over time and JG will also improve as the team improves.

In regard to Kyle improving his playbook to deal with that vulnerability I am not as optimistic because a boffin will always be a boffin and Kyle won't be able to help himself. Sometimes you need not be tricky on every play or frequency of trick plays. If every play is too trick you soon dont fool anyone.

It's not entirely incorrect or wrong to assume that Jimmy against the Seahawks, especially when he first came into the game, was just Jimmy running on adrenaline, so to speak, letting it fly and just playing ball. So yeah, I think Kyle reined it in. Some say he even did that in the second half against Seattle.

Jimmy's Jimmy and we know that. But I keep saying it, he isn't as bad as his worst haters say. He can play that bad at times. But it gets silly. Facebook in particular has some terrible people and fans. "We should have been up 21-0!" Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I saw Stafford miss and throw a number of bad passes against us last year. Saw Rodgers miss throws against us last year. I get that they hit more consistently than Jimmy. But nothing is guaranteed in football or sports in general because you "saw it right there" in your living room.

Jeff Wilson fumbled at the end of the game and people are dead silent about him. I get that QB is "the most important position". At the same time I could argue, convincingly, that the offensive line, not any particular position, maybe center as the "captain" of the line, is the most important unit on the field. If they mess up run blocking or pass blocking you're messed up all the way around.

I do respect Jonny's breakdowns and objectivity. He's correct in that Jimmy doesn't seem to have the knack for not making a bad play worse. Bad play call on the safety, steps out of the end zone, safety- or pick 6 had he not done that. He will play better though. Hopefully indeed this week.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Lol why is it many Americans cannot understand sarcasm when they see it? The whole Trey is our saviour brigade feel so butt hurt when anyone questions that he is an unproven very raw rookie who has not proven himself at all. He has won only one game and has been injured in some way every time he has played. He has a slow release and Kyle tried to overcome that by designing run plays. Well that broke him quickly. So in year three he hasnt progressed. By then he would have played 3.1 NFL games and be recovering from a nasty break. Excuse me for not feeling optimistic that he is going to start next year from the beginning and lead us to the SB. Like people thought he would last year and this year.

Before you dis me too much remember I was the one who said JG would still be on the roster this year. Ya'll poowhoed that didn't you?

Are you optimistic about what you saw on Sunday?

Oh that's right only Jimmy deserves patience

It is what is expected when the whole offense was set up with Trey in mind and when the expected JG out the door. I also remember a game when Aiyuk dropped a perfect long pass and so did Jennings from memory. That is the timing thing that will get better when these guys haven't practiced much. It is clear against the Seahawks JG was a bit more off the leash and it worked. KS reined that in and looked what happened. Kyle's plays work well but it takes a lot of practice to get all the pieces moving in sync. The problem with complexity is if one component is not working in sync it derails everything. And that is the vulnerability in Kyle's playbook. You can out clever yourself at times.

So you ask me if I am optimistic. The answer is I expect the coordination of the plays to get smoother over time and JG will also improve as the team improves.

In regard to Kyle improving his playbook to deal with that vulnerability I am not as optimistic because a boffin will always be a boffin and Kyle won't be able to help himself. Sometimes you need not be tricky on every play or frequency of trick plays. If every play is too trick you soon dont fool anyone.

It's not entirely incorrect or wrong to assume that Jimmy against the Seahawks, especially when he first came into the game, was just Jimmy running on adrenaline, so to speak, letting it fly and just playing ball. So yeah, I think Kyle reined it in. Some say he even did that in the second half against Seattle.

Jimmy's Jimmy and we know that. But I keep saying it, he isn't as bad as his worst haters say. He can play that bad at times. But it gets silly. Facebook in particular has some terrible people and fans. "We should have been up 21-0!" Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I saw Stafford miss and throw a number of bad passes against us last year. Saw Rodgers miss throws against us last year. I get that they hit more consistently than Jimmy. But nothing is guaranteed in football or sports in general because you "saw it right there" in your living room.

Jeff Wilson fumbled at the end of the game and people are dead silent about him. I get that QB is "the most important position". At the same time I could argue, convincingly, that the offensive line, not any particular position, maybe center as the "captain" of the line, is the most important unit on the field. If they mess up run blocking or pass blocking you're messed up all the way around.

I do respect Jonny's breakdowns and objectivity. He's correct in that Jimmy doesn't seem to have the knack for not making a bad play worse. Bad play call on the safety, steps out of the end zone, safety- or pick 6 had he not done that. He will play better though. Hopefully indeed this week.

He comes up small in big moments. When we NEED him to be good he usually isn't. He puts lots and lots of good yards/throws/mechanics/accuracy on tape when we're just moving the ball down the field in the 2nd when there's no pressure, but in those moments where we REALLY need Jimmy to play well, more often than not he disappoints.

That's the reason this fan doesn't like Jimmy G. He's good enough to break your heart every year, but not good enough to fill it with the ultimate NFL fan joy.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
It's not entirely incorrect or wrong to assume that Jimmy against the Seahawks, especially when he first came into the game, was just Jimmy running on adrenaline, so to speak, letting it fly and just playing ball. So yeah, I think Kyle reined it in. Some say he even did that in the second half against Seattle.

Jimmy's Jimmy and we know that. But I keep saying it, he isn't as bad as his worst haters say. He can play that bad at times. But it gets silly. Facebook in particular has some terrible people and fans. "We should have been up 21-0!" Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I saw Stafford miss and throw a number of bad passes against us last year. Saw Rodgers miss throws against us last year. I get that they hit more consistently than Jimmy. But nothing is guaranteed in football or sports in general because you "saw it right there" in your living room.

Jeff Wilson fumbled at the end of the game and people are dead silent about him. I get that QB is "the most important position". At the same time I could argue, convincingly, that the offensive line, not any particular position, maybe center as the "captain" of the line, is the most important unit on the field. If they mess up run blocking or pass blocking you're messed up all the way around.

I do respect Jonny's breakdowns and objectivity. He's correct in that Jimmy doesn't seem to have the knack for not making a bad play worse. Bad play call on the safety, steps out of the end zone, safety- or pick 6 had he not done that. He will play better though. Hopefully indeed this week.

I don't even think Jimmy played all that well vs Seattle. Made a couple plays and I can't expect him to just step in and be better than he's been for yrs here. Got the W so that's good. There's nothing that can be said other than he was horrible mostly on SNF. Can't sugarcoat it. I expect better from him going forward.

yes the OL is important, think we have an issue at center. Thing is film still shows plays left on the field. Jimmy lacks quick processing post snap and anticipation, always has. That's a QB problem and something that separates avg from good.

pointing out much better QBs missing throws to lesson what Jimmy does is kinda silly. Those dude are WAY more consistent (not just a little bit) and can make those big time plays that our QB simply doesn't make, even if they miss a pass here or there.

End of the day Jimmy is a game manager and when he can't even do that we're in trouble...scheme can only do so much. The D can't bail us out the whole game. The run game will continue to be stagnant when our QB can't keep Ds honest. Hopefully he can at least get back to that game manger QB mode.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Remember lat year when Jimmy was playing like crap, the Rams were coming up, and everyone was sure Jimmy was done? Then he had one of his best games. Maybe that happens this week. *crosses finers*

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Are you optimistic about what you saw on Sunday?

Oh that's right only Jimmy deserves patience

Jimmy didn't play particularly well against Denver after the first drive or so. That's what you get with Jimmy sometimes. But anyone who doesn't have their head completely up their ass knows that he he is certainly capable of playing far better than he did. To deny that is, at this point, just delusional, I don't pretend to know why things went the way they did. No training camp, limited starter reps for the first couple of weeks, still trying to get in good enough football shape to play four quarters. I am not here to make excuses for him as that certainly seemed to be a winnable game. But Denver did actually have something to do with it. Their defense played pretty well and Russell Wilson continued to do what he always seems to do to us which is find a way to make plays when they count.

It sucks that they lost but no one expected them to go undefeated so all of this hand wringing a bed wetting seems a bit much. You always hate to see the team drop a game they could have won because it just puts more pressure on them to win tougher games, like the one against the Rams on Monday night. But Denver isn't in their division or conference so the loss isn't as biting as it might have been. It sucked losing to Chicago but they beat Seattle which was a more important win. It sucked losing to Russell Wilson again, but now they have a chance to go out and prove that they still own the Rams. Hopefully the loss against Denver will get everyone on the team locked in and focused on Monday night and they'll come out with the win. Go Niners!

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
It's not entirely incorrect or wrong to assume that Jimmy against the Seahawks, especially when he first came into the game, was just Jimmy running on adrenaline, so to speak, letting it fly and just playing ball. So yeah, I think Kyle reined it in. Some say he even did that in the second half against Seattle.

Jimmy's Jimmy and we know that. But I keep saying it, he isn't as bad as his worst haters say. He can play that bad at times. But it gets silly. Facebook in particular has some terrible people and fans. "We should have been up 21-0!" Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I saw Stafford miss and throw a number of bad passes against us last year. Saw Rodgers miss throws against us last year. I get that they hit more consistently than Jimmy. But nothing is guaranteed in football or sports in general because you "saw it right there" in your living room.

Jeff Wilson fumbled at the end of the game and people are dead silent about him. I get that QB is "the most important position". At the same time I could argue, convincingly, that the offensive line, not any particular position, maybe center as the "captain" of the line, is the most important unit on the field. If they mess up run blocking or pass blocking you're messed up all the way around.

I do respect Jonny's breakdowns and objectivity. He's correct in that Jimmy doesn't seem to have the knack for not making a bad play worse. Bad play call on the safety, steps out of the end zone, safety- or pick 6 had he not done that. He will play better though. Hopefully indeed this week.

This is a really good post. You can tell a majority of posters are just over JG and seem to relish him getting owned out there like last week. I don't think we will see that very often he's better than that. I mean he had us really we should have been in the Super Bowl last year. Tartt just needs to make a play on a platter. JG just needs to build up that arm from no offseason work to starter like that. If only KS could have kept TL healthy for more than 5 quarters.. JG would have had time to build it up as a backup.. not as a starter.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:
It's not entirely incorrect or wrong to assume that Jimmy against the Seahawks, especially when he first came into the game, was just Jimmy running on adrenaline, so to speak, letting it fly and just playing ball. So yeah, I think Kyle reined it in. Some say he even did that in the second half against Seattle.

Jimmy's Jimmy and we know that. But I keep saying it, he isn't as bad as his worst haters say. He can play that bad at times. But it gets silly. Facebook in particular has some terrible people and fans. "We should have been up 21-0!" Woulda, coulda, shoulda. I saw Stafford miss and throw a number of bad passes against us last year. Saw Rodgers miss throws against us last year. I get that they hit more consistently than Jimmy. But nothing is guaranteed in football or sports in general because you "saw it right there" in your living room.

Jeff Wilson fumbled at the end of the game and people are dead silent about him. I get that QB is "the most important position". At the same time I could argue, convincingly, that the offensive line, not any particular position, maybe center as the "captain" of the line, is the most important unit on the field. If they mess up run blocking or pass blocking you're messed up all the way around.

I do respect Jonny's breakdowns and objectivity. He's correct in that Jimmy doesn't seem to have the knack for not making a bad play worse. Bad play call on the safety, steps out of the end zone, safety- or pick 6 had he not done that. He will play better though. Hopefully indeed this week.

This is a really good post. You can tell a majority of posters are just over JG and seem to relish him getting owned out there like last week. I don't think we will see that very often he's better than that. I mean he had us really we should have been in the Super Bowl last year. Tartt just needs to make a play on a platter. JG just needs to build up that arm from no offseason work to starter like that. If only KS could have kept TL healthy for more than 5 quarters.. JG would have had time to build it up as a backup.. not as a starter.

it's been 6 years and his throws are all the same.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Jimmy didn't play particularly well against Denver after the first drive or so. That's what you get with Jimmy sometimes. But anyone who doesn't have their head completely up their ass knows that he he is certainly capable of playing far better than he did. To deny that is, at this point, just delusional, I don't pretend to know why things went the way they did. No training camp, limited starter reps for the first couple of weeks, still trying to get in good enough football shape to play four quarters. I am not here to make excuses for him as that certainly seemed to be a winnable game. But Denver did actually have something to do with it. Their defense played pretty well and Russell Wilson continued to do what he always seems to do to us which is find a way to make plays when they count.

It sucks that they lost but no one expected them to go undefeated so all of this hand wringing a bed wetting seems a bit much. You always hate to see the team drop a game they could have won because it just puts more pressure on them to win tougher games, like the one against the Rams on Monday night. But Denver isn't in their division or conference so the loss isn't as biting as it might have been. It sucked losing to Chicago but they beat Seattle which was a more important win. It sucked losing to Russell Wilson again, but now they have a chance to go out and prove that they still own the Rams. Hopefully the loss against Denver will get everyone on the team locked in and focused on Monday night and they'll come out with the win. Go Niners!

A post that could've been posted word for word in the Trey thread after week 1. Which was my point.

We gotta rally around JG and play good football starting this week

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Jimmy didn't play particularly well against Denver after the first drive or so. That's what you get with Jimmy sometimes. But anyone who doesn't have their head completely up their ass knows that he he is certainly capable of playing far better than he did. To deny that is, at this point, just delusional, I don't pretend to know why things went the way they did. No training camp, limited starter reps for the first couple of weeks, still trying to get in good enough football shape to play four quarters. I am not here to make excuses for him as that certainly seemed to be a winnable game. But Denver did actually have something to do with it. Their defense played pretty well and Russell Wilson continued to do what he always seems to do to us which is find a way to make plays when they count.

It sucks that they lost but no one expected them to go undefeated so all of this hand wringing a bed wetting seems a bit much. You always hate to see the team drop a game they could have won because it just puts more pressure on them to win tougher games, like the one against the Rams on Monday night. But Denver isn't in their division or conference so the loss isn't as biting as it might have been. It sucked losing to Chicago but they beat Seattle which was a more important win. It sucked losing to Russell Wilson again, but now they have a chance to go out and prove that they still own the Rams. Hopefully the loss against Denver will get everyone on the team locked in and focused on Monday night and they'll come out with the win. Go Niners!

A post that could've been posted word for word in the Trey thread after week 1. Which was my point.

Its really hard for 81 to say anything negative about Jimmy.

Q: What happens when you pin (made-up) hopes on a backup QB, who has played almost the same way in the last 5 years ?
A: Last week's game

Every human has limitations, placing artificial expectations on an avg QB, and expecting him to perform like an elite QB, is fool's gold. It is what it is at this point. The only way the 49ers can win the SB is: defense is #1, creates multiple turnovers each game, RBs are healthy and the team consistently runs the ball with some new wrinkles.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
We gotta rally around JG and play good football starting this week

we gonna blow em out

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
We gotta rally around JG and play good football starting this week

we gonna blow em out

Oh yeah baby

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Remember lat year when Jimmy was playing like crap, the Rams were coming up, and everyone was sure Jimmy was done? Then he had one of his best games. Maybe that happens this week. *crosses finers*

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Remember lat year when Jimmy was playing like crap, the Rams were coming up, and everyone was sure Jimmy was done? Then he had one of his best games. Maybe that happens this week. *crosses finers*

We're in a great place as a franchise where he have to close our eyes and cross our fingers that our 6 year veteran qb somehow doesn't fluck the next game up.😣🫣