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Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

We saw what Jimmy would have looked like against our defense last week against Denver. Except our defense is better than Denver's. Stafford struggled the same reason Wilson struggled: our defense is f**king lit. And guess what? Most QBs we play this year are going to struggle.

But Stafford is, as I said before, like a brand name Jimmy. If Jimmy could throw deep and make no-look passes, and if he was a bit more mobile, he'd basically be Stafford. But he can't, so he's not. But the bad things they do are very, very similar.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jimmy is still not playing ll that well. His 3 games so far could best be described as average to below average.

Completion percentage has been way down from his normal %. 61.9, 62.07 and last night only 59.26. Those are low numbers for a QB that throws mostly high % short throws. He also has only 1 TD pass in each game and is averaging 201 yards per game. These are all below even Jimmy's average.

It's almost like he didn't practice with the teaming preseason or something.

He's had 3 games. He's a vet. How many games does it take? It's not like he never played in this system or he's getting beat up back there. The protection has been pretty good so far considering the shape the O line is in.
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jimmy is still not playing ll that well. His 3 games so far could best be described as average to below average.

Completion percentage has been way down from his normal %. 61.9, 62.07 and last night only 59.26. Those are low numbers for a QB that throws mostly high % short throws. He also has only 1 TD pass in each game and is averaging 201 yards per game. These are all below even Jimmy's average.

It's almost like he didn't practice with the teaming preseason or something.

He's had 3 games. He's a vet. How many games does it take? It's not like he never played in this system or he's getting beat up back there. The protection has been pretty good so far considering the shape the O line is in.

I mean I'd give him time coming off of not insignificant shoulder surgery, not working with the team in the preseason and basically just rehabbing and throwing by himself while the actual team is practicing.

Now if there isn't an uptick in the performance at some point this season then yeah it might be a problem. Unless we win games regardless as we did last night.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Yes, they should have applied this to the Bears game. But did not for some strange reason. I wonder what it could be...
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Very true.

I mean I again was at work and following the game on my phone so I didn't really see anything. Checked in on this place. Saw comments here and on Facebook and had we lost the game, which we weren't in danger of but it was pretty much always a one possession game until Hufanga's pick six, there could have been a lot of question marks other than Jimmy.

What if Gould doesn't miss a field goal? What if Gipson doesn't drop a pick? What if Kyle tries to QB sneak one of the best in the game at it once or even twice from the one yard line to go for the touchdown rather than settling for a FG? I mean maybe try it on 4th and goal. I understand the percentage play of taking the points. But given Kyle's reputation for kind of lacking a killer instinct, a touchdown there would have taken the wind out of the sails of the Rams a lot more. And a turnover on downs isn't great but you're still making them go 99 yards with our pass rush.

Even last week, Jimmy certainly played poorly enough to get the blame. But Jeff Wilson fumbles at the end completely killing any chance he had to redeem himself. Not saying he would have at all. For one thing the line would have had to hold up in front of him. But basically radio silence on Wilson's gaffe.

There's so much that goes into every game and every loss. But there's this crowd, "Jimmy took a safety and we lost by one point. His fault!!!!!" And that crowd is obviously really loud.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Yes, they should have applied this to the Bears game. But did not for some strange reason. I wonder what it could be...

Again, I'd say a lot of it is on that crowd I just mentioned.

I don't think anyone should have an issue at this point saying Jimmy is not a franchise or great QB. Some people seem to literally say he's great. Well, he's not "great".

But if he plays within himself and doesn't make stupid turnovers he can certainly play his part in wins.

When there's that crowd that, as I said, pretty much finds ways to single handedly blame Jimmy for every loss and even nitpick and hand wring about what he may have done wrong in wins, even if it's not a majority of the fan base, they are indeed very loud and it's kinda only natural that there's going to be at least some people who take that and unload on Trey when he's less than perfect.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
1. Jimmy said he saw the corner driving on the route and put the ball where it was Deebo or no one - that's Jimmy's words from the presser.
2. Shanahan's offense always relies on a run game. Matt Ryan was 13-12 in 2015 and 16 when he threw more than 32x. He was 6-1 when he threw less than 32x. RGIII was 1-3 when he threw more than 32x, with Kyle and Mike and 8-3 when he threw less than 32x.

We're a wide-zone based offense. Joe Staley has talked about how Kyle wants to run the ball at least 30x a game because in the NFL if you run 30x you win 80% of the time.

Almost every HC would love to run it 30x a game. That means you're winning Throwing the ball a ton in most cases means you're playing from behind.

I thought Jimmy looked more decisive last night. Made some good throws and like always has those missed opportunities for big gains and butt clinching moments. It's the Jimmy G experience, the good and bad.

Yes and no. If you watch the Bills, Chargers, Chiefs and Bucs, offenses everyone here acts like they want, they don't even pretend to try and run the ball much.

That will never be Kyle. In Matt Ryans MVP season he threw it the fewest times since his rookie year and averaged 4 passes over 20 yards, a game. When I tweeted out those stats, it was when Trey was starting. I said to set expectations for Lance accordingly.

If we're throwing more than 30x, it means the gameplan isn't working. Teams don't win a lot when the gameplan they spent all their prep and practice time on isn't working.

Kyle has also talked about that having such a great defense allows him to be more conservative. As long as the defense is dominating, he wants to run the ball and take fewer shots, even more.
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Jimmy is still not playing ll that well. His 3 games so far could best be described as average to below average.

Completion percentage has been way down from his normal %. 61.9, 62.07 and last night only 59.26. Those are low numbers for a QB that throws mostly high % short throws. He also has only 1 TD pass in each game and is averaging 201 yards per game. These are all below even Jimmy's average.

It's almost like he didn't practice with the teaming preseason or something.

He's had 3 games. He's a vet. How many games does it take? It's not like he never played in this system or he's getting beat up back there. The protection has been pretty good so far considering the shape the O line is in.

I mean I'd give him time coming off of not insignificant shoulder surgery, not working with the team in the preseason and basically just rehabbing and throwing by himself while the actual team is practicing.

Now if there isn't an uptick in the performance at some point this season then yeah it might be a problem. Unless we win games regardless as we did last night.

Unfortunately it seems like we've been giving Jimmy time to recover or improve ever since he came here. He actually looked better in his first game than he has the last 2. This is who he is. I hope he can improve his accuracy and get back to 66-68%. With him it's all about being able to deliver the short passes on time with accuracy. He avoided any bad INTs last night although the Deebo TD was nearly picked off.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Yes, they should have applied this to the Bears game. But did not for some strange reason. I wonder what it could be...

There were many who did, actually. I know I did. It may have not been here cause I have a bunch of irons in the fire now. But, the same people who are jumping on Jimmy now, were saying all the above regarding Lance. The script just flipped.

It's almost like it's just be better if people would support the QB playing equally.....
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Very true.

I mean I again was at work and following the game on my phone so I didn't really see anything. Checked in on this place. Saw comments here and on Facebook and had we lost the game, which we weren't in danger of but it was pretty much always a one possession game until Hufanga's pick six, there could have been a lot of question marks other than Jimmy.

What if Gould doesn't miss a field goal? What if Gipson doesn't drop a pick? What if Kyle tries to QB sneak one of the best in the game at it once or even twice from the one yard line to go for the touchdown rather than settling for a FG? I mean maybe try it on 4th and goal. I understand the percentage play of taking the points. But given Kyle's reputation for kind of lacking a killer instinct, a touchdown there would have taken the wind out of the sails of the Rams a lot more. And a turnover on downs isn't great but you're still making them go 99 yards with our pass rush.

Even last week, Jimmy certainly played poorly enough to get the blame. But Jeff Wilson fumbles at the end completely killing any chance he had to redeem himself. Not saying he would have at all. For one thing the line would have had to hold up in front of him. But basically radio silence on Wilson's gaffe.

There's so much that goes into every game and every loss. But there's this crowd, "Jimmy took a safety and we lost by one point. His fault!!!!!" And that crowd is obviously really loud.

That's true. Could have had 2 more INT's including another pick-6, Gould missed the FG, Kittle couldn't keep his feet in bounds for another TD, etc.

Even with the 2-3 big misses by Garoppolo, this could have been a massive blowout either way. But that's who Jimmy is. He's not going to see or hit that homerun every time; hell, he might not at all but he can beat you with a 1,000 papercuts.

It's not hard to see who has an agenda in here. Getting anyone to look past the QB us nearly impossible these days and for a select few, getting them to see anything beyond Jimmy Garoppolo is futile even when we all know Good Jimmy-Bad Jimmy.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
It was a perfect gameplan last night

To me if we keep relentlessly screening teams are gonna start jumping it like Huf.. we put a lot on tape last night I expect clubs to be more ready / on alert going forward

Thats why we have the fake screen and go. Think of the pass Jennings bobbled and didn't come down with in Denver. That's what that was. Fake tunnel screen and then double go's by Kittle amd Jennings. We've run it a ton. We've bit Juice, Kittle and Aiyuk on some big chunk gains doing it.

We've been running it for years. If it was easy to defend teams would do it every week. We gashed the Patriots with it numerous times in 2020.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
1. Jimmy said he saw the corner driving on the route and put the ball where it was Deebo or no one - that's Jimmy's words from the presser.
2. Shanahan's offense always relies on a run game. Matt Ryan was 13-12 in 2015 and 16 when he threw more than 32x. He was 6-1 when he threw less than 32x. RGIII was 1-3 when he threw more than 32x, with Kyle and Mike and 8-3 when he threw less than 32x.

We're a wide-zone based offense. Joe Staley has talked about how Kyle wants to run the ball at least 30x a game because in the NFL if you run 30x you win 80% of the time.

Almost every HC would love to run it 30x a game. That means you're winning Throwing the ball a ton in most cases means you're playing from behind.

I thought Jimmy looked more decisive last night. Made some good throws and like always has those missed opportunities for big gains and butt clinching moments. It's the Jimmy G experience, the good and bad.

Yes and no. If you watch the Bills, Chargers, Chiefs and Bucs, offenses everyone here acts like they want, they don't even pretend to try and run the ball much.

That will never be Kyle. In Matt Ryans MVP season he threw it the fewest times since his rookie year and averaged 4 passes over 20 yards, a game. When I tweeted out those stats, it was when Trey was starting. I said to set expectations for Lance accordingly.

If we're throwing more than 30x, it means the gameplan isn't working. Teams don't win a lot when the gameplan they spent all their prep and practice time on isn't working.

Kyle has also talked about that having such a great defense allows him to be more conservative. As long as the defense is dominating, he wants to run the ball and take fewer shots, even more.

Own TOP and keep those explosive QB's on the bench, cold. Kyle has a totally different team-mentality as a HC compared to his YOLO OC days. He's learned.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by DrEll:
If that Deebo TD was a pick 6 (like it should've been), the entire complexion of the game changes and we'd all be ranting about how Jimmy cost us the game.

"I saw him driving on it so I just didn't want to throw the interception," Garoppolo said. "I kind of gave it a 'either Deebo will get it or no one will' and that's about all I did on the play."

I like how a touchdown pass "should" have been a pick 6

Thank you JG thread. You can take me now. I've seen it all.

I don't know how the place would be acting if we had Stafford as our QB last night. Granted it's not a perfect comparison as he had a thrown together offensive line and our defense to face. But he arguably played worse than Jimmy against Denver last week. One pick six thrown, another interception that should have been caught by by Gipson in our end zone, sacked 7 times with a lost fumble on the last one. He's inching up towards the record of career pick sixes thrown, held by Favre. I can accept that overall he's a "better" QB than Jimmy. But he's definitely not worlds better and when he's bad he can look, well as bad if not worse than bad Jimmy. It's kind of funny because I for fun googled some stuff last night and there's a decent, well Seahawks piece on Stafford with an embedded Twitter conversation between Richard Sherman and Orlovsky .

I'd personally love if we had some more Sherman type perspectives around here than the Orlovsky type ones that sometimes are all too prevalent.

That's what I've been telling people since the NFCCG.

When you're QB is under 35%+ pressure rate and < 2.5ypc (no run game), no QB is going to transcend that. Stafford faced that week 1 and week 4 and he crumbled like I expected.

Fans really need to spend more time looking at the context of games and understanding the true circumstances.

No doubt we can still evaluate QB play, the good, the misses, etc. too. We can do both.

Yes, they should have applied this to the Bears game. But did not for some strange reason. I wonder what it could be...

There were many who did, actually. I know I did. It may have not been here cause I have a bunch of irons in the fire now. But, the same people who are jumping on Jimmy now, were saying all the above regarding Lance. The script just flipped.

It's almost like it's just be better if people would support the QB playing equally.....

Jonny you are not one of the people I'm referring to. Even when you're biased you justify it with reasonable arguments.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
From Reddit:
"Jimmy when people think he threw it high intentionally"

HA

He did throw it high intentionally, or rather, he threw it away from the defender.

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