Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

IMO neither game would have been close enough for a comeback if we had a better QB.

So yeah I'll say again

Elite - not necessary

Better than Jimmy - yes.

Jim Kelly and Dan Marino are far greater QB's than Jimmy G. Just wondering if they won a Super Bowl??

Really? Dan Marino and Jim Kelly?

It's 2022, even Trent Dilfer winning would be a bad example and that was 20 years ago. The game has changed so much you're comparing apples and oranges.

Even if we were to accept Kelly/Marino, we can strike Kelly from the list because the guy made SB's but lost to a more elite QB each time.

You would have been better off mentioning Nick Foles winning, at least that's recent.

Even then you're asking for a highly unlikely exception. Not quite lotto ticket exception, but you're hoping for "any given Sunday".

Some fans just aren't keen on 50-50 bets every week and would like a QB who stacks the odds a little more in our favour.

That's simply how I feel. Jimmy is a coin flip when the game falls on him. In a playoff series when you have potentially 3-4 coin flips the odds are really not in your favour.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
Can always count on 49ers fans to find a way to turn 42 points given up by the defense around on Jimmy and make it his fault.

I think most people are saying its the defense and some Jimmy's fault, at least I am Not sure how you can go and say Jimmy didn't have faults in this game.

I am too.

Jimmy G, made some real boneheaded decisions yesterday and does deserve blame for yesterday's loss.

Everyone is. Not a single person is posting any differently.

Originally posted by Franchise408:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Not a single post since kickoff yesterday did this. Please stop with the bs.

Stop the gaslighting.

Already seen tons of posts of "Jimmy needs everything to go right", implying that the defense just made a couple small mistakes and Jimmy crumbled. Not to mention all the fans on social media, the local sports media, calling out Jimmy for yesterday more than anything the defense did.

Keep gaslighting, that's the best argument you have.

People saying he needs to go doesnt support the idea that they said he was the reason we lost. No one was implying Jimmy was the reason we lost and no one SAID he was the reason we lost. Just stop. You are getting defensive for no reason. There hasnt been a single post putting yesterdays game solely on Jimmy. Period.

Originally posted by Franchise408:
Can always count on 49ers fans to find a way to turn 42 points given up by the defense around on Jimmy and make it his fault.

Guess what? An elite defense is going to have one or two bad days like this against the Mahomes and Josh Allens of the world. Don't worry, they'll look better next week against statue Stafford, and we can credit Jimmy for the win

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

All I am saying is it needs to be proven. Saying (and I am paraphrasing) "he got close twice so he clearly can win it all" lacks logic. Thats like saying Aaron Judge can hit 70 homeruns because he almost hit 70 homeruns this year.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

All I am saying is it needs to be proven. Saying (and I am paraphrasing) "he got close twice so he clearly can win it all" lacks logic. Thats like saying Aaron Judge can hit 70 homeruns because he almost hit 70 homeruns this year.

If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Yes or Josh Allen. A lot of teams that have QBs with no ring as starter are really wasting their time this season.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

All I am saying is it needs to be proven. Saying (and I am paraphrasing) "he got close twice so he clearly can win it all" lacks logic. Thats like saying Aaron Judge can hit 70 homeruns because he almost hit 70 homeruns this year.

If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Is it that illogical to want Shanny to prove it before we say he can? I feel like I am in the twilight zone. Neither Jimmy nor Kyle have won Superbowls as the starter and head coach respectively. That is a fact. I think it is wrong to definitively say they can when neither has.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Yes or Josh Allen. A lot of teams that have QBs with no ring as starter are really wasting their time this season.

Because thats what I said.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Franchise408:
Can always count on 49ers fans to find a way to turn 42 points given up by the defense around on Jimmy and make it his fault.

I think most people are saying its the defense and some Jimmy's fault, at least I am Not sure how you can go and say Jimmy didn't have faults in this game.

I am too.

Jimmy G, made some real boneheaded decisions yesterday and does deserve blame for yesterday's loss.

Everyone is. Not a single person is posting any differently.

Its a double edged sword. The pick before the end of the first half may have destroyed the psyche and any momentum we may have had coming out in the second half. Sometimes I want to blame that one singular moment on Jimmy and why we lost. Then I realize even if we had scored to end the half, would we have stopped KCs offense in the second half anyway? Probably not. We know Jimmy will never score in the 40s unless it's against a sh*t team. So then I solely want to blame Demeco and the defense. Sprinkle in crap special teams and how can you blame Jimmy?

Ultimately they all sucked at the end of the day. Collectively laid an egg and fed off each other, but in the opposite direction. It was like getting f'ed by a carrot and it accidently broke off in your a**. Now your at yje doctors explaining what happened to him and a female resident student. Just was a sh**ty day all together

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Is it that illogical to want Shanny to prove it before we say he can? I feel like I am in the twilight zone. Neither Jimmy nor Kyle have won Superbowls as the starter and head coach respectively. That is a fact. I think it is wrong to definitively say they can when neither has.

There is nothing definitive here. These are all opinions. But NYG can beat Rodgers, NYJ can beat Rodgers, P Walker can beat Brady. It's called any given Sunday there is unpredictability to this league and it makes NFL football fun. Reid was told for a long time he can't win the big one. Just last year a bunch of guys in LA who never won it.. won it. Happens all the time. When we are in the actual Super Bowl with at one point probably a 70-80% win probability.. that means yes in my opinion we are capable.. we just didn't make the right plays when we needed to.

If you say everyone who hasn't won it can't win it.. first its a very cynical negative way to view things.. second you will be demonstrated wrong all the dang time. Just last year for example. Stafford won the big game.. he listened to all that chatter. By your logic you would have said he can't win it all because he hasn't.. and proven incorrect.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

All I am saying is it needs to be proven. Saying (and I am paraphrasing) "he got close twice so he clearly can win it all" lacks logic. Thats like saying Aaron Judge can hit 70 homeruns because he almost hit 70 homeruns this year.

If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Is it that illogical to want Shanny to prove it before we say he can? I feel like I am in the twilight zone. Neither Jimmy nor Kyle have won Superbowls as the starter and head coach respectively. That is a fact. I think it is wrong to definitively say they can when neither has.

Is it illogical to want Jimmy to win one here after everything thats happened?

You agreed with the poster that said you need a qb better than Jimmy to win a superbowl. That doesn't make sense. Both Jimmy and shanny were 7 minutes away from winning a superbowl. To say Jimmy or Shanahan can't win a superbowl, because they came up short twice, is flawed.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
At 23-35 it was 5 scoring drives each.

That's the difference between an elite QB and Jimmy.

Why do you guys keep singing the same song. I thought we already went through this, that Jimmy G isn't elite.

Tell me do you need an elite QB yo win a Super Bowl??

Elite - not necessarily

Better than Jimmy - yes

This.

I say no.. not this. We nearly won 2x. You can't tell me you turned your TV off after Q3 of the SB or NFCCG. We were handed 4th qtr leads in both. Tartt + 3rd and 15. Plays there to be made.

Nearly winning is not winning. Until Jimmy shows he can win a SB, saying he IS able to win one is baseless. I would argue that better QB play sunce 2019, we would have at least 6 rings.

He already won 2x he's got the rings. We don't. But he does.

Stop it Faithful. You know damn well what I meant. And for some reason, I had a feeling you were going to have this exact silly response.

It's silly logic imo. If you apply it consistently you would say Lamar can't win it cuz he hasn't, Herbert as well. The logic quickly reveals itself as dumb. You would have said KC won't win it before they did, same with Eagles, etc. Just cuz you haven't doesn't mean you cannot. It also makes our season utterly pointless if you feel we aren't capable of winning a SB with our current guys. Clearly KS and JL don't agree.. they said so as recently as maybe 5 days ago. They felt we can win it this year with this group.

All I am saying is it needs to be proven. Saying (and I am paraphrasing) "he got close twice so he clearly can win it all" lacks logic. Thats like saying Aaron Judge can hit 70 homeruns because he almost hit 70 homeruns this year.

If Jimmie makes a play in the superbowl, Jimmy g is mvp. It's so f**king stupid that the narrative is Jimmy can't win one.

Using the same logic, Shanahan can't win one either.

Is it that illogical to want Shanny to prove it before we say he can? I feel like I am in the twilight zone. Neither Jimmy nor Kyle have won Superbowls as the starter and head coach respectively. That is a fact. I think it is wrong to definitively say they can when neither has.

Is it illogical to want Jimmy to win one here after everything thats happened?

You agreed with the poster that said you need a qb better than Jimmy to win a superbowl. That doesn't make sense. Both Jimmy and shanny were 7 minutes away from winning a superbowl. To say Jimmy or Shanahan can't win a superbowl, because they came up short twice, is flawed.

love the sarcasm. Jimmy was 7 minutes away........

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