Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase
This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.
We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.
Jimmy made a few key third down passes. He was a contributor.
jimmy hasnt been the problem lately but lazy posters want to blame him. our receivers should never have to go out of their way to catch any passes like everyone else receivers do. Jimmy has been playing very well lately. Aiyuk dropped a TD and fumbled. Jimmy made some clutch throws last night. the unscriped sideline pass to ray ray was awesome. plays like that just confirm most of our suspicions that Kyle is holding him back, he can make those throws
The "lazy posters" as you put them are so set in their mind that they will always try to find something to reinforce their beliefs. Jimmy can go 21-25 as he did against the Rams, one of the most efficient days in the organization's history, and they can't help themselves and have to mention 2 "almost picks".
The thing is I think I see a correlation between their mindset and the mindset of some in the Justin Fields thread on NFL Talk. And yes, I'm an Ohio State fan who preferred Fields and want to see him have success. But now that he is, some are downplaying it and I don't think, as at least one or two others have indicated, it's even necessarily because they believe what they're even saying. Fields is starting to succeed and our pick is on the bench and on IR rehabbing a broken ankle.
I don't think it's even about how "bad" or "limited" Jimmy is. I'm sure the injuries have frustrated and some inconvenient picks or fumbles have even almost enraged. But I think it's still "We could have had Mahomes". So too could have eight other teams. Some of those still got good players (Cleveland, Jets, Chargers, Panthers) and still others now have QB's they hope will be good or are good (Chicago, Jacksonville, Chargers, Bengals). But then again, pretty much any of them would probably redo that pick for Mahomes.
Thing is, it's hard to say Mahomes would be quite the same Mahomes here. He'd still do some of the same things, but Kyle is probably always going to be a run first coach and a bit conservative. "But Atlanta! But Matt Ryan!" I think Jonny and maybe someone else or maybe just Jonny has referenced and even provided quotes that show that Kyle the head coach isn't the same play caller nor does he have the exact same mindset as he did in Atlanta and Houston- by his own admission.
I mean, I'd take Mahomes too. Jimmy is having arguably the best season of his career and it certainly isn't flashy. But it's doable and relatively effective. I know even as I type that it doesn't excite me either. But if it's something even a bit better than 2019 it just might take us where we want to be.
Mentioning "almost picks" is fully valid when evaluating how a QB played, and it's asinine to say otherwise. If you do that, you should not slam an offensive linemen for getting owned, but bailed out by a great play by the QB.
As for the "Atlanta" thing, you'll have to square that argument with the fact that he takes more shots when Trey is in, and immediately took more shots a couple years ago when Beathard came in.
Also, the argument about Mahomes is a joke.
I stopped reading after the first point you made, and barely skimmed the rest, so I can neither endorse nor dispute the rest of your post.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Nov 15, 2022 at 4:51 AM ]
