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Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:12 PM
- Bellaleo
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Jimmy has been top 10 this season. Give credit when it is due
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:15 PM
- 49ers_Life
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Thank God for Jimmy or we have a s**tty season
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:29 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by Furlow:
I'm with you 100%! Glad to see you're not a part of the "bUt AiR yArDs" crew.
He's currently 29th in that category (if that's what you were wondering). Just scroll way down...
Better than Stafford @ least. (Just saying it b4 Woo does)
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:34 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Julio Jones had 2 redzone touchdowns in 2016.
I almost posted the same thing
Classic example of something sounding correct in theory but not in reality.
Classic example of proving the point you've been arguing against for years, and not realizing it.
What exactly are you saying I have been arguing against?
Dude you and the other Jimmy haters have been arguing for YEARS that Kyle doesn't trust Jimmy, and that's why he checks down to RB's and doesn't throw to WR's. That he's conservative, especially in the red zone, because of his QB. Then you cite a stat that in Matt Ryan's MVP season (the one that the Jimmy haters LOVE to reference to disparage Jimmy) that Julio only had 2 TD's in the red zone. Two RB's had more red zone targets than him. So that is PROOF that it's a Kyle offensive design/problem/issue or whatever you want to call it.
Kyle was, is, and likely always will be a smash mouth, physical, run oriented offensive play caller. Doesn't matter who is QB is, that's what he wants to do. You proved it lol. Again, thank you.
*Sigh* where to even begin with this post.
First and foremost, you are talking to the wrong person. I was saying over and over again that I have no idea if Kyle trusts Jimmy fully or not, and there is a ton of evidence that proves EITHER opinion. I posted that many many times, specifically after the 2019 playoffs. So don't lump me in with those people. I can try to find receipts if you'd like.
Secondly, Matt Ryan had 23 redzone touchdowns in 2019. Twenty three. You are trying to draw conclusions about Kyle Shanahan and comparing two totally different strategies. Ryan threw substantially more RZ touchdown passes than Jimmy has in his best season. It wasn't a reflection of Julio Jones at all. It was a reflection of Ryan throwing a lot of touchdown passes in the Redzone and not Jimmy. You can decide for yourself what the reason for that is. (This would evidence that Kyle doesn't fully trust Jimmy, but like I said, there is plenty of evidence on the other side as well).
Wait you don't think having Julio Jones helped their red zone offense at all? Whoa okay.
"At All"....??? Lol,...beautiful bait & switch there. Damn near unguardable, Kyrie.
[ Edited by random49er on Nov 15, 2022 at 6:34 PM ]
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:38 PM
- GetSomeRouteRunners
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Originally posted by random49er:
Aiyuk got a good amount of heat for the miss behind him, but here is the other ball behind him I referenced.
I dont think fans understand just how fantastic of a WR this guy is. No one really brings it up because he made the play!
All the focus is on the miss but these grabs are only routine while home, with a remote in your hand, and on the sofa.
I mean,...how?
How he grabs that and doesn't instantly fall down but somehow continues on to the 2 yard line is beyond my grasp.
And the things the CMac can do is beyond my grasp. And Kittle. And Deebo. Just, a number of guys that can take nothing and make it into something.
But I mean hey, based on the last several pages, this play is obviously going under the "beat the blitz", "great 3rd down throw" category and they will just continue on. Much we read here is a bunch of fans seeing what they want.
All-out blitz and Jimmy threw it when he was only halfway up his stem. Sit down. You don't understand football.
Aiyuk is absurdly overrated by 49er fans. He's not even a Top 30 NFL receiver, yet some talk about him like he's Jerry Rice 2.0.
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:44 PM
- ItsX4Number6
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That's actually a pretty damn good job by both guys. I don't get it.
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:48 PM
- GetSomeRouteRunners
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Look at this horrible throw from Steve Young at 1:53:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKZk7CHdd8
Got his receiver killed.
He was 18-20 in that game, but had a WTF throw even in this game.
Just imagine what he did in other games.
Wait, you don't have to.
Here he is throwing high over the middle to a wide open Jerry Rice at 7:28:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18yQ2ndyjI
The late John Madden said Steve Young was "perfect" on that throw, though. He didn't consult with random49er and some of the Jimmy bashers, though.
Here's Joe Montana getting the late Freddie Solomon CRUSHED by Scott Case on a high throw over the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E9ZFM6c3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKZk7CHdd8
Got his receiver killed.
He was 18-20 in that game, but had a WTF throw even in this game.
Just imagine what he did in other games.
Wait, you don't have to.
Here he is throwing high over the middle to a wide open Jerry Rice at 7:28:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18yQ2ndyjI
The late John Madden said Steve Young was "perfect" on that throw, though. He didn't consult with random49er and some of the Jimmy bashers, though.
Here's Joe Montana getting the late Freddie Solomon CRUSHED by Scott Case on a high throw over the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E9ZFM6c3c
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:54 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
That's actually a pretty damn good job by both guys. I don't get it.
Just as I said in the initial post,...lol. People are gonna see the same exact play completely different ways. Spot on.
Good job beating the blitz by Jimmy and marvelous display of body control by Aiyuk.
Nov 15, 2022 at 6:54 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Our offense isn't built for air yards. You are cherry picking categories to try to make him look bad. Everyone drafted on our team is built for RAC. That's our offense. So his total yards is more applicable than air yards. More important than that does he win? Lots of SCRUBS on that list above him that don't win. Winning is more important.
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:00 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Julio Jones had 2 redzone touchdowns in 2016.
I almost posted the same thing
Classic example of something sounding correct in theory but not in reality.
Classic example of proving the point you've been arguing against for years, and not realizing it.
What exactly are you saying I have been arguing against?
Dude you and the other Jimmy haters have been arguing for YEARS that Kyle doesn't trust Jimmy, and that's why he checks down to RB's and doesn't throw to WR's. That he's conservative, especially in the red zone, because of his QB. Then you cite a stat that in Matt Ryan's MVP season (the one that the Jimmy haters LOVE to reference to disparage Jimmy) that Julio only had 2 TD's in the red zone. Two RB's had more red zone targets than him. So that is PROOF that it's a Kyle offensive design/problem/issue or whatever you want to call it.
Kyle was, is, and likely always will be a smash mouth, physical, run oriented offensive play caller. Doesn't matter who is QB is, that's what he wants to do. You proved it lol. Again, thank you.
*Sigh* where to even begin with this post.
First and foremost, you are talking to the wrong person. I was saying over and over again that I have no idea if Kyle trusts Jimmy fully or not, and there is a ton of evidence that proves EITHER opinion. I posted that many many times, specifically after the 2019 playoffs. So don't lump me in with those people. I can try to find receipts if you'd like.
Secondly, Matt Ryan had 23 redzone touchdowns in 2019. Twenty three. You are trying to draw conclusions about Kyle Shanahan and comparing two totally different strategies. Ryan threw substantially more RZ touchdown passes than Jimmy has in his best season. It wasn't a reflection of Julio Jones at all. It was a reflection of Ryan throwing a lot of touchdown passes in the Redzone and not Jimmy. You can decide for yourself what the reason for that is. (This would evidence that Kyle doesn't fully trust Jimmy, but like I said, there is plenty of evidence on the other side as well).
Wait you don't think having Julio Jones helped their red zone offense at all? Whoa okay.
I reread my post right after I clicked submit and thought to myself that I probably should edit the "at all" part, but left it alone. Sure enough, you nitpicked those few words out of my entire post and ignored everything else. I should have known better.
Having Julio obviously helped, but not in the way that you were implying when you initially brought him up...and you know that. He was likely double teamed a bunch in the redzone, similar to how Kittle is....which opened the offense up for TWENTY ONE redzone touchdown passes for the other players. One would assume the blanketing of Kittle in the redzone would do the same for us, but here we are.
Kittle is Julio Jones now. Got it.
I don't know why I even bother trying to have football discussions with you. I hope you aren't like this in real life.
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:03 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by GetSomeRouteRunners:
Look at this horrible throw from Steve Young at 1:53:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKZk7CHdd8
Got his receiver killed.
He was 18-20 in that game, but had a WTF throw even in this game.
Just imagine what he did in other games.
Wait, you don't have to.
Here he is throwing high over the middle to a wide open Jerry Rice at 7:28:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18yQ2ndyjI
The late John Madden said Steve Young was "perfect" on that throw, though. He didn't consult with random49er and some of the Jimmy bashers, though.
Here's Joe Montana getting the late Freddie Solomon CRUSHED by Scott Case on a high throw over the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E9ZFM6c3c
Beautiful burner account you've got there bro.
Jimmy gets the same effect out of the guys on here that he does out of the cheerleaders.
[ Edited by random49er on Nov 15, 2022 at 7:04 PM ]
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:05 PM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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Originally posted by GetSomeRouteRunners:
Look at this horrible throw from Steve Young at 1:53:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKZk7CHdd8
Got his receiver killed.
He was 18-20 in that game, but had a WTF throw even in this game.
Just imagine what he did in other games.
Wait, you don't have to.
Here he is throwing high over the middle to a wide open Jerry Rice at 7:28:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18yQ2ndyjI
The late John Madden said Steve Young was "perfect" on that throw, though. He didn't consult with random49er and some of the Jimmy bashers, though.
Here's Joe Montana getting the late Freddie Solomon CRUSHED by Scott Case on a high throw over the middle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E9ZFM6c3c
well that sure puts some of Jimmy's throws in perspective lol
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:05 PM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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also, obligatory,
it's OUT
it's OUT
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:17 PM
- Ark49er
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People are still complaining about our starting QB no matter how clean of a game he has. He isn't turning the ball over like his detractors would like so they have started digging even deeper and looking under rocks to try and find something negative to say about him. I'm sure he will have an INT or two , a fumble here or there like any other human QB, so the true venom will come out then even if we win the game by 2 TDs or more in the process.
If folks are hoping for true horrific QB play, just be patient and see if he's not leading the team next season and beyond. I'm almost sure the guy that is next in line after Jimmy will satisfy all who are apparently horny for bad QB play.
If folks are hoping for true horrific QB play, just be patient and see if he's not leading the team next season and beyond. I'm almost sure the guy that is next in line after Jimmy will satisfy all who are apparently horny for bad QB play.
Nov 15, 2022 at 7:50 PM
- ChillninDaBay
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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
also, obligatory,
it's OUT
Everything I have said without the film breakdown and analysis.
KS making good and right calls vs the given defense they are facing, it's up to the players, EVERYONE OF THEM to make their plays and win every down.
As for Jimmy, he was 68 for the night, like I have said. Jonnydel with his film break down said the same thing, Jimmy G is NOT ELITE, Jimmy IS NOT A PROBOWLER, he has already choked in big games SB and NFCC just last year and when the team needs him to make a comeback especially against a good or great D, he will make bonehead plays and cost the team, he can't carry a team like an elite QB and that's why he came back and restructure his contract as a backup QB. If the team goes deep into the playoffs again with Jimmy and possibly has a chance to get to the SB and win it, it will have to be on EVERYONE (yes it includes KS making the right and best calls on offense to setup the offense for success aka score TDs) and highly not because of Jimmy is QB1 carrying the team to victory, he's just not that good, a good game manager at best aka 72/100, and for anyone to think he is in any way is delusional 🤣 (too many limitations and shortcomings, why he hasn't made 1 probowl).
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Nov 15, 2022 at 7:54 PM ]