Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Its why I didn't bring up any posters name but you asked for proof. He isn't the only one either. Posts like that are frequent enough to show some concern over. Those statements lower the quality of discussion and paints folks into a negative tone that goes beyond football. I highly doubt any of these so called "Jimmy haters" have a personal hatred for the guy.

I didn't ask for proof.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Perhaps the issue is there are posters who will never admit to it when Jimmy has a poor performance. They always try to change the subject to how good looking the guy is instead of facing the ugly truth. I don't care how good looking someone is, they are not exempt from criticism for piss poor play.

With that said, Jimmy is having a career season imo. His TD% is good and his INT% is low. He is completing a decent amount of passes outside of his comfort zone and he is forcing less passes into tight coverage. I actually cannot ask much more from him. I hope he keeps it up.

But we do it admit when Jimmy has a poor performance, but people like you who expect us to admit it don't seem to remember when we do. Then you guys keep saying this.

And yes he's having a good year, I still think he's a top 12-15 QB in this league. Yes, he's not elite, but like I've always said, you don't need a elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

People like me? 🤣 What people am I?

I said you, because "You" are the one posting it.

Oh, I thought you were going to call me a Jimmy hater. My praises and criticism goes up and down as Jimmy's performances go up and down.

The post I made was directed at a select few who always bring up Jimmy's looks in defense of his poor performances as if it makes up for them. Are you one of those poster's? Just asking since it seems I struck a nerve.

No I'm not one of those posters. btw

But it does strike a nerve when people always ask how come we Jimmy fans don't ever admit when he's having a poor performance. All I'm saying is that it's simply not true at all. At least not on my behalf.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This isn't asking for proof?

"Is there a recent example or does this go back a ways?"

Originally posted by picklejuice:


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1:16:30

i got the answer i was looking for on jimmy g's throw to aiyuk

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This isn't asking for proof?

"Is there a recent example or does this go back a ways?"

I didn't post that

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Just one time go route or sluggo and JG just bleeping throws the bleep out of it.. one time in my life.. let us try it see what happens..

Do it to Deebo not these punks Benjamin or RR.. no offense Ray Ray

Come on Shanny.

Let it happen before we need it in the SB. Prax makes perfect.

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by OhioNiner:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase

This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.

We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.

Jimmy made a few key third down passes. He was a contributor.

jimmy hasnt been the problem lately but lazy posters want to blame him. our receivers should never have to go out of their way to catch any passes like everyone else receivers do. Jimmy has been playing very well lately. Aiyuk dropped a TD and fumbled. Jimmy made some clutch throws last night. the unscriped sideline pass to ray ray was awesome. plays like that just confirm most of our suspicions that Kyle is holding him back, he can make those throws

The "lazy posters" as you put them are so set in their mind that they will always try to find something to reinforce their beliefs. Jimmy can go 21-25 as he did against the Rams, one of the most efficient days in the organization's history, and they can't help themselves and have to mention 2 "almost picks".

The thing is I think I see a correlation between their mindset and the mindset of some in the Justin Fields thread on NFL Talk. And yes, I'm an Ohio State fan who preferred Fields and want to see him have success. But now that he is, some are downplaying it and I don't think, as at least one or two others have indicated, it's even necessarily because they believe what they're even saying. Fields is starting to succeed and our pick is on the bench and on IR rehabbing a broken ankle.

I don't think it's even about how "bad" or "limited" Jimmy is. I'm sure the injuries have frustrated and some inconvenient picks or fumbles have even almost enraged. But I think it's still "We could have had Mahomes". So too could have eight other teams. Some of those still got good players (Cleveland, Jets, Chargers, Panthers) and still others now have QB's they hope will be good or are good (Chicago, Jacksonville, Chargers, Bengals). But then again, pretty much any of them would probably redo that pick for Mahomes.

Thing is, it's hard to say Mahomes would be quite the same Mahomes here. He'd still do some of the same things, but Kyle is probably always going to be a run first coach and a bit conservative. "But Atlanta! But Matt Ryan!" I think Jonny and maybe someone else or maybe just Jonny has referenced and even provided quotes that show that Kyle the head coach isn't the same play caller nor does he have the exact same mindset as he did in Atlanta and Houston- by his own admission.

I mean, I'd take Mahomes too. Jimmy is having arguably the best season of his career and it certainly isn't flashy. But it's doable and relatively effective. I know even as I type that it doesn't excite me either. But if it's something even a bit better than 2019 it just might take us where we want to be.

Mentioning "almost picks" is fully valid when evaluating how a QB played, and it's asinine to say otherwise. If you do that, you should not slam an offensive linemen for getting owned, but bailed out by a great play by the QB.

As for the "Atlanta" thing, you'll have to square that argument with the fact that he takes more shots when Trey is in, and immediately took more shots a couple years ago when Beathard came in.

Also, the argument about Mahomes is a joke.

I stopped reading after the first point you made, and barely skimmed the rest, so I can neither endorse nor dispute the rest of your post.

Cool. With your attitude I'll know not to pay attention to you in the future.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. 5th edition. The mental health playbook. Meaning. there seems to be some deep-seeded psychological issues with fans with him; probably based around how handsome and rich he is. Extremes love and hate him for the same reason.

PS: This is a joke.

It may be a joke now, but wasn't there an actual serious conversation on this topic at one point last year? I feel like I remember this narrative in the media somewhere, or maybe on these boards?

edit: I remember it being in regards to jealousy being the root of everyone hating on Jimmy. I don't know, maybe I'm making this up

Originally posted by GetSomeRouteRunners:
Look at this horrible throw from Steve Young at 1:53:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKZk7CHdd8

Got his receiver killed.

He was 18-20 in that game, but had a WTF throw even in this game.

Just imagine what he did in other games.

Wait, you don't have to.

Here he is throwing high over the middle to a wide open Jerry Rice at 7:28:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h18yQ2ndyjI

The late John Madden said Steve Young was "perfect" on that throw, though. He didn't consult with random49er and some of the Jimmy bashers, though.

Here's Joe Montana getting the late Freddie Solomon CRUSHED by Scott Case on a high throw over the middle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E9ZFM6c3c

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Perhaps the issue is there are posters who will never admit to it when Jimmy has a poor performance. They always try to change the subject to how good looking the guy is instead of facing the ugly truth. I don't care how good looking someone is, they are not exempt from criticism for piss poor play.

With that said, Jimmy is having a career season imo. His TD% is good and his INT% is low. He is completing a decent amount of passes outside of his comfort zone and he is forcing less passes into tight coverage. I actually cannot ask much more from him. I hope he keeps it up.

But we do it admit when Jimmy has a poor performance, but people like you who expect us to admit it don't seem to remember when we do. Then you guys keep saying this.

And yes he's having a good year, I still think he's a top 12-15 QB in this league. Yes, he's not elite, but like I've always said, you don't need a elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

People like me? 🤣 What people am I?

I said you, because "You" are the one posting it.

Oh, I thought you were going to call me a Jimmy hater. My praises and criticism goes up and down as Jimmy's performances go up and down.

The post I made was directed at a select few who always bring up Jimmy's looks in defense of his poor performances as if it makes up for them. Are you one of those poster's? Just asking since it seems I struck a nerve.

I admittedly read less than 50% of the posts in this thread, but I don't remember seeing what you're describing... Is there a recent example or does this go back a ways?

Yes. Furlow posted this yesterday.

"Poor Jimmy. So handsome, yet so hated."

I have never seen anyone post personal hateful things about Jimmy. I have only seen folks criticize his poor performances and question his leadership off the field. To make it seem like fans on this forum hate Jimmy as a person is disingenuous and needs to stop.

Originally posted by GetSomeRouteRunners:
Since yards after catch shouldn't count for a QB and the only thing that determines whether or not a QB would set records in this stacked offense is whether or not they can throw deep, why not just bring back C.J. Beathard? He had a way better deep ball than Jimmy. He's faster, too. He actually has better physical tools than Trey Lance, funny enough.

So why move on from Beathard? Surely he's a better QB than Jimmy and would light it up in this offense. Think of all the air yards he would have.

Originally posted by picklejuice:


around
1:16:30

i got the answer i was looking for on jimmy g's throw to aiyuk

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Perhaps the issue is there are posters who will never admit to it when Jimmy has a poor performance. They always try to change the subject to how good looking the guy is instead of facing the ugly truth. I don't care how good looking someone is, they are not exempt from criticism for piss poor play.

With that said, Jimmy is having a career season imo. His TD% is good and his INT% is low. He is completing a decent amount of passes outside of his comfort zone and he is forcing less passes into tight coverage. I actually cannot ask much more from him. I hope he keeps it up.

But we do it admit when Jimmy has a poor performance, but people like you who expect us to admit it don't seem to remember when we do. Then you guys keep saying this.

And yes he's having a good year, I still think he's a top 12-15 QB in this league. Yes, he's not elite, but like I've always said, you don't need a elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

People like me? 🤣 What people am I?

I said you, because "You" are the one posting it.

Oh, I thought you were going to call me a Jimmy hater. My praises and criticism goes up and down as Jimmy's performances go up and down.

The post I made was directed at a select few who always bring up Jimmy's looks in defense of his poor performances as if it makes up for them. Are you one of those poster's? Just asking since it seems I struck a nerve.

I admittedly read less than 50% of the posts in this thread, but I don't remember seeing what you're describing... Is there a recent example or does this go back a ways?

Yes. Furlow posted this yesterday.

"Poor Jimmy. So handsome, yet so hated."

I have never seen anyone post personal hateful things about Jimmy. I have only seen folks criticize his poor performances and question his leadership off the field. To make it seem like fans on this forum hate Jimmy as a person is disingenuous and needs to stop.

I did not post that. Nor have I sent anyone use his looks as an excuse for poor play. Even Jimmy's strongest defenders admit when he plays poorly or mades bad throws (like the one against KC). There is NO counterexample to the handful of extreme Jimmy haters that say he sucks, is carried, etc. NO ONE is saying the opposite and that he's elite, carries the team, is the only reason we're winning, etc. The extremism comes from one side only.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Perhaps the issue is there are posters who will never admit to it when Jimmy has a poor performance. They always try to change the subject to how good looking the guy is instead of facing the ugly truth. I don't care how good looking someone is, they are not exempt from criticism for piss poor play.

With that said, Jimmy is having a career season imo. His TD% is good and his INT% is low. He is completing a decent amount of passes outside of his comfort zone and he is forcing less passes into tight coverage. I actually cannot ask much more from him. I hope he keeps it up.

But we do it admit when Jimmy has a poor performance, but people like you who expect us to admit it don't seem to remember when we do. Then you guys keep saying this.

And yes he's having a good year, I still think he's a top 12-15 QB in this league. Yes, he's not elite, but like I've always said, you don't need a elite QB to win a Super Bowl.

People like me? 🤣 What people am I?

I said you, because "You" are the one posting it.

Oh, I thought you were going to call me a Jimmy hater. My praises and criticism goes up and down as Jimmy's performances go up and down.

The post I made was directed at a select few who always bring up Jimmy's looks in defense of his poor performances as if it makes up for them. Are you one of those poster's? Just asking since it seems I struck a nerve.

I admittedly read less than 50% of the posts in this thread, but I don't remember seeing what you're describing... Is there a recent example or does this go back a ways?

Yes. Furlow posted this yesterday.

"Poor Jimmy. So handsome, yet so hated."

I have never seen anyone post personal hateful things about Jimmy. I have only seen folks criticize his poor performances and question his leadership off the field. To make it seem like fans on this forum hate Jimmy as a person is disingenuous and needs to stop.

I did not post that. Nor have I sent anyone use his looks as an excuse for poor play. Even Jimmy's strongest defenders admit when he plays poorly or mades bad throws (like the one against KC). There is NO counterexample to the handful of extreme Jimmy haters that say he sucks, is carried, etc. NO ONE is saying the opposite and that he's elite, carries the team, is the only reason we're winning, etc. The extremism comes from one side only.