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Originally posted by Niners816:
Grant runs the Niner SI ...that shows you how far it's fallen. It's just a bunch of crybaby s**t and outrage porn as an attempt to act like they are "keeping it real". It's the furthest thing from real. It's just all for clicks.

You nailed it
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Disagree. I think my still frame above shows that the safety was honed in on Deebo at the time of said handoff. One could make the case that would leave Juice open but again, there was most definitely a hole and a blocker in front for CMC to go big if the defender was actually blocked not allowed to just blow everything up. I think Burford completely missed his assignment here but I could be wrong.
[ Edited by ItsX4Number6 on Nov 16, 2022 at 5:00 PM ]
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Saw that and another missed RPO read. s**tty one would have been a TD and another would have went for a massive gain. s**t happens, we won but it's all why people need to calm their tits about play calling until the all-22 comes out.

Safety was crashing quickly. There's more to the story here. This is a split second decision that is extremely easy to look back and judge imo.

This very well could've also been the right read if Burford blocks the correct man.

I dont think thats the guy that blew up the play.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Saw that and another missed RPO read. s**tty one would have been a TD and another would have went for a massive gain. s**t happens, we won but it's all why people need to calm their tits about play calling until the all-22 comes out.

Safety was crashing quickly. There's more to the story here. This is a split second decision that is extremely easy to look back and judge imo.

Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Maybe I am wrong here but when Deebo begins his motion, no defender motions across with him... shouldn't that clue JG into the fact that he will likely possess a numbers advantage on that side ?
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Disagree. I think my still frame above shows that the safety was honed in on Deebo at the time of said handoff. One could make the case that would leave Juice open but again, there was most definitely a hole and a blocker in front for CMC to go big if the defender was actually blocked not allowed to just blow everything up. I think Burford completely missed his assignment here but I could be wrong.

My thing is this. Yes, Burford (I think it was) missed his assignment. But for the play to work for Mccaffrey, like 5 players would have needed to do their jobs. For the play to work the other direction, 2 players would have needed to do their jobs. 1 (Aiyuk), which was really far away from where the play would have developed and 2 (Juice) who is a perennial Pro Bowler who we should be able to count on to do his job. And even if neither of them did do their jobs, Deebo would have gotten the ball with a ton of space between him and the safety/DB, that he easily could have run by/through them. Plus, Jimmy should have identified that there were zero defenders following Deebo's motion across the field presnap.

I understand its a split second decision and what Jimmy chose COULD have worked if the entire line did its job. But looking back on the play, its very easy to say the wrong decision was made IMO.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Nov 16, 2022 at 5:10 PM ]
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Saw that and another missed RPO read. s**tty one would have been a TD and another would have went for a massive gain. s**t happens, we won but it's all why people need to calm their tits about play calling until the all-22 comes out.

Safety was crashing quickly. There's more to the story here. This is a split second decision that is extremely easy to look back and judge imo.

This very well could've also been the right read if Burford blocks the correct man.

I dont think thats the guy that blew up the play.

Yeah admittedly it's a bit confusing. I was highlighting how CMC had a blocker out in front here not the free defender. I initially highlighted him but it was just too messy. I should've left it or did this differently but I just did it quickly.
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Disagree. I think my still frame above shows that the safety was honed in on Deebo at the time of said handoff. One could make the case that would leave Juice open but again, there was most definitely a hole and a blocker in front for CMC to go big if the defender was actually blocked not allowed to just blow everything up. I think Burford completely missed his assignment here but I could be wrong.

All good agree to disagree. I see a hat on a hat and a whole empty field…and Deebo with space equals good things
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 16, 2022 at 5:12 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is far more spicy than a Kyle Shanahan game plan!

Seeing some missed RPOs from Jimmy in the all-22. You notice any of that. One would have been a TD on the right read and the second would have been a massive gain. Both should have went to Deebo

So now Jimmy didn't hand off good enough? LOL
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Disagree. I think my still frame above shows that the safety was honed in on Deebo at the time of said handoff. One could make the case that would leave Juice open but again, there was most definitely a hole and a blocker in front for CMC to go big if the defender was actually blocked not allowed to just blow everything up. I think Burford completely missed his assignment here but I could be wrong.

All good agree to disagree. I see a hat on a hat and a whole empty field…and Deebo with space equals good things

Bad read by Jimmy, even if the safety shoots up fast he wasn't gonna stop the ball if thrown to Deebo and Juice will have ez leverage to just his use momentum and push him out of the way if he shot up fast which seems like he did. Even if he didn't shoot up we have the best blocking Full back blocking for if not the best run after catch WR in the game in a 1v2 situation. This is all hypothetical though with Jimmy making a throw to Deebo and Deebo actually catching it.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Nov 16, 2022 at 5:18 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Is his shoulder 100% healthy? All I've heard is that he's almost there but not quite.

Funny you say that. Crocker and Panelli were just talking about that. A bit more zip this year. My tell has been rolling to the right and throwing on the move...inaccurate high ducks.

But that throw to Ray-Ray and Aiyuk on the clutch 3rd down needed zip and accuracy outside the hashes. This clearly is the strongest I've seen his arm since he's arrived, IMHO.

That throw to Ray-Ray was the best I have seen from Jimmy while on the move.

No doubt. I 'hope' this is a good sign going forward because nothing scared me more than a Jimmy being flushes out right trying to make a play.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes it a split sec for sure. Juice also had the safety. Look at BA/Juice and Deebo's reaction. They knew they had that play won

Disagree. I think my still frame above shows that the safety was honed in on Deebo at the time of said handoff. One could make the case that would leave Juice open but again, there was most definitely a hole and a blocker in front for CMC to go big if the defender was actually blocked not allowed to just blow everything up. I think Burford completely missed his assignment here but I could be wrong.

My thing is this. Yes, Burford (I think it was) missed his assignment. But for the play to work for Mccaffrey, like 5 players would have needed to do their jobs. For the play to work the other direction, 2 players would have needed to do their jobs. 1 (Aiyuk), which was really far away from where the play would have developed and 2 (Juice) who is a perennial Pro Bowler who we should be able to count on to do his job. And even if neither of them did do their jobs, Deebo would have gotten the ball with a ton of space between him and the safety/DB, that he easily could have run by/through them. Plus, Jimmy should have identified that there were zero defenders following Deebo's motion across the field presnap.

I understand its a split second decision and what Jimmy chose COULD have worked if the entire line did its job. But looking back on the play, its very easy to say the wrong decision was made IMO.

I can't really argue with this. I just don't think it's as clear cut as the Twitter dude made it out to be. I still maintain that CMC has just as much daylight if this play was executed. Execution was our downfall last game not moving the ball. Jimmy, Aiyuk, Burford, Deebo, and Shanny all week guilty on one way or the other. Other than shooting ourselves in the foot I think we played pretty decently.

(I say Deebo because if he follows Williams he walks in)
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is far more spicy than a Kyle Shanahan game plan!

Seeing some missed RPOs from Jimmy in the all-22. You notice any of that. One would have been a TD on the right read and the second would have been a massive gain. Both should have went to Deebo

So now Jimmy didn't hand off good enough? LOL

So you don't know what a RPO is lol? You've been all up McDaniels ass and that's all he runs in Miami.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 16, 2022 at 5:25 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Is his shoulder 100% healthy? All I've heard is that he's almost there but not quite.

Funny you say that. Crocker and Panelli were just talking about that. A bit more zip this year. My tell has been rolling to the right and throwing on the move...inaccurate high ducks.

But that throw to Ray-Ray and Aiyuk on the clutch 3rd down needed zip and accuracy outside the hashes. This clearly is the strongest I've seen his arm since he's arrived, IMHO.

That throw to Ray-Ray was the best I have seen from Jimmy while on the move.

No doubt. I 'hope' this is a good sign going forward because nothing scared me more than a Jimmy being flushes out right trying to make a play.

I was watching that John Chapman video I posted above and he brought up how Jimmy had all that time and space and still didn't step into the throw. 🤣 No way that shoulder is affecting him. If anything, it looks stronger. The accuracy on that throw is exactly what I was asking for weeks ago. He didn't under throw it nor over throw it like he typically does. That pass was right in the bread basket.
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