Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Kittle only had two targets all game? Yikes. That's ridiculous.

"Great"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

😂

Like they were taking communion. LOL

Just hope Jimmy stays 68-72/100 or better (AKA CONSISTENCY, best limit him and his known limitations to around 25 pass attempts per game especially with the addition of CMC and a healthy Mitchell at RBs) because if he makes any bonehead 45-55 moves, almost everyone will throw him under the bus again especially once the team makes the playoffs and beyond later this season 🤣
KS Lynch and Jed York included (the people actually calling the shots), because they were ALL Ready to move on this off season and let the Trey Era begin, luckily for Jimmy and his incentives, no one wanted to trade for him and Trey unfortunately got hurt.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Silky:
I got some thoughts here. Yes Jimmy missed the RPO this game, but it won't always be that way. This offense is far from a finished project. Plus Jimmy's strength isn't RPO so hopefully he will get better at it.

Jimmy was working with Jeff Wilson and whoever was behind him for several weeks. Now he has arguably 2 elite backs and Deebo to work the run game with. That's like handing you 3 of the best weapons that are decked out in call of duty, but you don't do sh*t with them because you haven't learned the map yet. Just give Jimmy and the rest of the guys time to gel and those plays will start to hit.

Jimmy's been running RPOs since college. This isn't a new concept. He missed a couple and both would have more than likely been TDs.

it's not the end of the world, I'm sure you can point to missed reads for every QB each week. My point bringing it up is to the folks that immediately start calling out play calls without even watching the film.

There's so much nuances that goes into all of it….coming to a conclusion on anything 5 mins after a game is emotional fan reaction, which is fine. Pretending you know it all (not saying you) and then being so stubborn days later, after the fact? Well that's just dumb.

"It's just kind of a hodgepodge of stuff every week. ~ Kurt Warner

Kyle can call any play he wants and the fan-perspective can only be "execution." And like you said, you can apply this to any and every game.

The goal of any quality OC is knowing that's inevitable (poor execution, missed read, missed opportunity) and maximize the opportunities of your playmakers to overcome that.

For so many fans who so badly pitched for explosives and using the full field with all its playmakers its just odd that 'this' vanilla and conservative game plan is considered "great" despite it being a razor thin W.

Originally posted by NCommand:
"It's just kind of a hodgepodge of stuff every week. ~ Kurt Warner

Kyle can call any play he wants and the fan-perspective can only be "execution." And like you said, you can apply this to any and every game.

The goal of any quality OC is knowing that's inevitable (poor execution, missed read, missed opportunity) and maximize the opportunities of your playmakers to overcome that.

For so many fans who so badly pitched for explosives and using the full field with all its playmakers its just odd that 'this' vanilla and conservative game plan is considered "great" despite it being a razor thin W.

"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs. For example, is McGlinchey doing great this season coming back from injury? Is deebo getting separation? How about Kittle? Is everyone blocking their supposed assigned D players on run plays perfectly so CMC and Mitchell actually have running lanes to gain yards? Is TW tipping our offensive plays on whether it's a pass or a run? ALL OF THAT, including Jimmy and his limitations as a QB and making high throws etc and eliminating any bonehead decisions. Again KS doesn't play on the field, he could call some better plays here and there like any other good or great play caller but the execution on the field still comes down to the players themselves. For example if Bill Walsh was calling plays instead, it STILL DOESN'T MATTER, limited Jimmy G is still 72/100 at best, it's up to Jimmy to stay consistently 72, his best, every play, that has nothing to do with KS or who ever is play calling, it comes down to each player, how they practice, take care of their body, perform, execute and do their job on the field is exactly why football, the NFL, is nothing more than a performance based sport and business. You don't get the job done and done right you are GONE, it's brutal but it's a business, it's the NFL and that's how it operates, and don't everyone forgets so quickly, Jimmy G was already on the way out after choking the SB, staying injured for a long time and then choking again last season in the NFCC, if not because no other team wanted to trade a 2nd round pick for him and Trey unfortunately got hurt, he wouldn't be QB1 right now and still making millions more on a incentive-laden contract for just this season.

I posted this in another thread but it seems relevant here also with conversation currently taking place. Its almost as if some fans expect a blowout win every single game.

The point differentials in our 5 wins so far this season.

+20
+15
+22
+17
+6

Could it just be that we beat a well coached team and that is why it was only a 6 point win?

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I posted this in another thread but it seems relevant here also with conversation currently taking place. Its almost as if some fans expect a blowout win every single game.

The point differentials in our 5 wins so far this season.

+20
+15
+22
+17
+6

Could it just be that we beat a well coached team and that is why it was only a 6 point win?

They played tough and us going 2-5 in the redzone left a lot of points off the board. Really though, we thoroughly dominated them in every single aspect we just didn't finish drives because of multiple different reasons.

It's why I personally don't get all the finger pointing. We played pretty well after a sluggish start we just missed too many opportunities.

On a side note, Jimmy's efficiency play since taking over probably is not sustainable.

#2 DVOA passing
#5 in 3rd down %
#3 YPA
#3 INT's (4)
#1 Attractiveness
#1 Scrutinized

--- I'm sure there's more. 🤣

Areas that can help:
#8 drops (12)
#1 in lost points (d/t drops)
#10 penalties (26 on offense; 9 games)
#17 Redzone
#24 DVOA rushing

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10; it might with Mitchell back. But right now he's predictable AND his running game is well below average.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10.

The only way to change or adjust his philosophy is to find a QB who can still be efficient when asked to pass the ball 30+ times a game. We currently do not have that on the roster.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10.

The only way to change or adjust his philosophy is to find a QB who can still be efficient when asked to pass the ball 30+ times a game. We currently do not have that on the roster.

Not necessarily. As DL points out, simply switching to pass to set up the run has been the best formula by a mile. You can still get back to the run after the defense is softened up.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10.

The only way to change or adjust his philosophy is to find a QB who can still be efficient when asked to pass the ball 30+ times a game. We currently do not have that on the roster.

Not necessarily. As DL points out, simply switching to pass to set up the run has been the best formula by a mile. You can still get back to the run after the defense is softened up.

Who is this DL? Is he a X's and O's film guy? Does he have videos that demonstrate his football knowledge?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10.

The only way to change or adjust his philosophy is to find a QB who can still be efficient when asked to pass the ball 30+ times a game. We currently do not have that on the roster.

Not necessarily. As DL points out, simply switching to pass to set up the run has been the best formula by a mile. You can still get back to the run after the defense is softened up.

Who is this DL? Is he a X's and O's film guy? Does he have videos that demonstrate his football knowledge?

Lombardi.

Also, coming into a game with a plan to be pass heavy against a defense that is far better at defending the pass than they are at defending the run sounds like a recipe for disaster. If we came in with a pass heavy gameplan and we lost, there would be folks with pitch forks ready burn Kyle at the stake for not running the ball more against the worst run defense in the league.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
"Great" = Everyone actually doing their Jobs at the utmost on offense every play and they all help score TDs.

Which is wildly unrealistic esp. in a nuanced run-centric offense like this one that's massively underperformed no matter how much Kyle wants to shove it down teams throats.

In Kyle's scheme, if one tiny part is just slightly off, it's now 2nd and 13.

When it hits, it hits big. But when it doesn't, it puts massive pressure to be at the very top of passing efficiency to transcend that and that's not sustainable, IMHO.

That's not a Superbowl winning formula. Kyle is going to need to adjust his philosophy unless he can get that run game back up to top 10; it might with Mitchell back. But right now he's predictable AND his running game is well below average.

Don't worry, who isn't up to par by the end of the season will be gone, regardless Jimmy G is a goner.

Trey Era 2023. Who knows if Trey is healthy enough later and Jimmy somehow gets injured, Trey Era might begin sooner, it all remains to be seen.