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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Around my house we call the play after two failed runs up the middle, or a failed run and cute gadget play…Third and Jimmy

ever since Jimmy pulled off two third and sixteens against the Rams in the same drive to win the game…Third and Jimmy

LMAO.

That is genius mate. Third and Jimmy he did that with that house blitz he hit BA set up the CMC TD

Pfffft, paid $130M, he better do his job. LOL
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.
When it comes to redzone failures this season. I have seen whiffed blocks, missed open receivers, dropped passes, INT's and penalties to name a few.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.

You swore up and down that you were not driving the narrative that he is a poor playcaller but here you are again.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
When it comes to redzone failures this season. I have seen whiffed blocks, missed open receivers, dropped passes, INT's and penalties to name a few.

Same. I'd love if JD or another did a full breakdown. It seems like we're predictable too...inside runs and the same pass play concepts too. Esp. when we get inside the 5.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.

You swore up and down that you were not driving the narrative that he is a poor playcaller but here you are again.

Overall he has struggled in spurts. He's still been slightly above average. That means he, yes, Kyle Shanahan, has plenty of room for improvement too this year.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.

You swore up and down that you were not driving the narrative that he is a poor playcaller but here you are again.

Overall he has struggled in spurts. He's still been slightly above average. That means he, yes, Kyle Shanahan, has plenty of room for improvement too this year.

No playcaller, not even the ones you would consider elite, are on the money each and every week. They struggle in spurts just the same. They also rely heavily on their top playmakers to make them look good as well just the same.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Red Zone is multi situational thing. It's anything from having 30 yards to work with (20 yard line + EZ) to only having an inch to go with an inch and 10 yards to work with. You want all of your weapons to work these scenarios.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.

You swore up and down that you were not driving the narrative that he is a poor playcaller but here you are again.

Overall he has struggled in spurts. He's still been slightly above average. That means he, yes, Kyle Shanahan, has plenty of room for improvement too this year.

No playcaller, not even the ones you would consider elite, are on the money each and every week. They struggle in spurts just the same. They also rely heavily on their top playmakers to make them look good as well just the same.

Exactly what I've been pointing out. But some fans struggle with that critique. Obviously. Its just one aspect of the overall team but it is a big one because he's both the HC and the OC. So it literally, starts with him.
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Red Zone is multi situational thing. It's anything from having 30 yards to work with (20 yard line + EZ) to only having an inch to go with an inch and 10 yards to work with. You want all of your weapons to work these scenarios.

No question. It can get tight in there no matter the weapons. But we certainly have far more weapons than most teams. So plenty to work with at least.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Congrats. Jimmy did what he is paid to do, convert 3rd downs. Mitchell also did his job very well when given the opportunity. He set up more managable 3rd down situations by averaging 4.9 ypc. Kyle also did a good job calling the plays necessary to convert those crucial 3rd downs. The defense and ST's also did their part. It was a solid team win all around. Could it have been better? Sure. The offense could have put up more points. But the defense could have been better early on in the game as well.

LOL what, they could have been better on the first drive? Sure, I agree. Saying the defense could have been better when they gave up 16 total points and 52 second half yards. Cmon YAC. I would never look at this game and say the defense could have been better. You should win 100% of the games where the defense gives up 1 total touchdown and 52 total second half yards. Should never lose a game like that.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?

816 referenced him originally.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

With that kinda sample size who can question it.
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