Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Bingo. Right now he can't count on it (24th) like in the past so it's counter to his own foundation so it's more of a struggle this year. It's a little "clunky." Thankfully we have so much talent, we can still pull it off no matter what he calls.

You swore up and down that you were not driving the narrative that he is a poor playcaller but here you are again.

Overall he has struggled in spurts. He's still been slightly above average. That means he, yes, Kyle Shanahan, has plenty of room for improvement too this year.

No playcaller, not even the ones you would consider elite, are on the money each and every week. They struggle in spurts just the same. They also rely heavily on their top playmakers to make them look good as well just the same.

Exactly what I've been pointing out. But some fans struggle with that critique. Obviously. Its just one aspect of the overall team but it is a big one because he's both the HC and the OC. So it literally, starts with him.

I agree. A majority of issues are related to player execution and that lies squarely on his shoulders as a HC.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Red Zone is multi situational thing. It's anything from having 30 yards to work with (20 yard line + EZ) to only having an inch to go with an inch and 10 yards to work with. You want all of your weapons to work these scenarios.

I've always felt that some type of rollout is an effective play near the goal line (inside the 5). The QB has to be sharp and ready to throw as soon as a receiver gets open or throw him open but he also has to be able to run the ball into the end zone. Jimmy may not be able to run that well but he does have a quick release and should be able to spot those open guys.

Originally posted by NCommand:
816 referenced him originally.

But he has zero to do with red zone efficiency in 2021

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Congrats. Jimmy did what he is paid to do, convert 3rd downs. Mitchell also did his job very well when given the opportunity. He set up more managable 3rd down situations by averaging 4.9 ypc. Kyle also did a good job calling the plays necessary to convert those crucial 3rd downs. The defense and ST's also did their part. It was a solid team win all around. Could it have been better? Sure. The offense could have put up more points. But the defense could have been better early on in the game as well.

LOL what, they could have been better on the first drive? Sure, I agree. Saying the defense could have been better when they gave up 16 total points and 52 second half yards. Cmon YAC. I would never look at this game and say the defense could have been better. You should win 100% of the games where the defense gives up 1 total touchdown and 52 total second half yards. Should never lose a game like that.

The defense was stellar after they had a couple mental errors. Their OL only gave up 10 sacks all year. Insane.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
816 referenced him originally.

But he has zero to do with red zone efficiency in 2021

Why are you asking me? LOL

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've always felt that some type of rollout is an effective play near the goal line (inside the 5). The QB has to be sharp and ready to throw as soon as a receiver gets open or throw him open but he also has to be able to run the ball into the end zone. Jimmy may not be able to run that well but he does have a quick release and should be able to spot those open guys.

Perhaps we see more of them now that hes shown he can make a good throw on a non designed rollout instead of missing the receiver by 3 feet for a pick.

Jimmy G ain't carrying and he ain't throwing for 30+ TDs in 16 games (that's ONLY 1.875 TDs per game, that's f**king horrible!!!!!!!!!!!), regardless how many good or great offensive weapons they got and even if Bill Walsh is resurrected and calling plays, undoable 🤣

To argue otherwise or even bring up the chances of it happening is RIDICULOUS and futile 🤣

That's why the the bored sports media blaming KS for the lack of TDs with all these weapons to create Fake News is a JOKE as always, look who's at QB1? Jimmy the Highest Paid Backup mediocre G who choked a SB and NFCC last season ALREADY who was going to be dumped and will be gone after this season anyway even if they did somehow win the SB this season, it won't be him carrying the team on his back because he already proved he couldn't how many times now? 😆

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
816 referenced him originally.

But he has zero to do with red zone efficiency in 2021

Why are you asking me? LOL

I never said anything about Mostert.....I mentioned the ground game lacking explosive speed when Mitchell got hurt Wk 1 this year and how getting him back should help.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I've always felt that some type of rollout is an effective play near the goal line (inside the 5). The QB has to be sharp and ready to throw as soon as a receiver gets open or throw him open but he also has to be able to run the ball into the end zone. Jimmy may not be able to run that well but he does have a quick release and should be able to spot those open guys.

Perhaps we see more of them now that hes shown he can make a good throw on a non designed rollout instead of missing the receiver by 3 feet for a pick.

True. I believe I saw a rolling left pocket recently too. I saw a tad hurry up/tempo sets too. Little things I love to see.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Why are you asking me? LOL

You asked him about Raheem Mostert, a guy who had zero effect on the RZ efficiency last year.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?

816 referenced him originally.

I did not

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Congrats. Jimmy did what he is paid to do, convert 3rd downs. Mitchell also did his job very well when given the opportunity. He set up more managable 3rd down situations by averaging 4.9 ypc. Kyle also did a good job calling the plays necessary to convert those crucial 3rd downs. The defense and ST's also did their part. It was a solid team win all around. Could it have been better? Sure. The offense could have put up more points. But the defense could have been better early on in the game as well.

LOL what, they could have been better on the first drive? Sure, I agree. Saying the defense could have been better when they gave up 16 total points and 52 second half yards. Cmon YAC. I would never look at this game and say the defense could have been better. You should win 100% of the games where the defense gives up 1 total touchdown and 52 total second half yards. Should never lose a game like that.

The defense was stellar after they had a couple mental errors. Their OL only gave up 10 sacks all year. Insane.

That is exactly what I was referring to. Good job by SWH taking things out of context.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?

816 referenced him originally.

I did not

My apologies. He was referencing the loss of speed and I mismemembered.

I think the Mitchell injury and losing his speed was the biggest loss

30 passing TDs in 16 games that's ONLY 1.875 tds per game, and yet Jimmy will most likely never achieve that in the NFL and yet the bored sports media and the clueless malcontents are talking about KS's playcalling?

RIDICULOUS & FUTILE so f**king stupid 🤣

Trey got hurt (loss his chance to develop with a good team this season), get as many Wins as possible and go as far as possible with mediocre Jimmy G who didn't even practice with the team in TC and call it a season good or bad, KS is doing the best he can being paid less than Jimmy backup G who is 110% gone after this season enjoy and move on, if they win games just enjoy it... the miserable malcontents and bored sports media really have no life arguing over nothing 🤣

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
30 passing TDs in 16 games that's ONLY 1.875 tds per game, and yet Jimmy will most likely never achieve that in the NFL and yet the bored sports media and the clueless malcontents are talking about KS's playcalling?

RIDICULOUS & FUTILE so f**king stupid 🤣

Welcome to a run centric offense. How many rushing TD's do we have?