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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Congrats. Jimmy did what he is paid to do, convert 3rd downs. Mitchell also did his job very well when given the opportunity. He set up more managable 3rd down situations by averaging 4.9 ypc. Kyle also did a good job calling the plays necessary to convert those crucial 3rd downs. The defense and ST's also did their part. It was a solid team win all around. Could it have been better? Sure. The offense could have put up more points. But the defense could have been better early on in the game as well.

LOL what, they could have been better on the first drive? Sure, I agree. Saying the defense could have been better when they gave up 16 total points and 52 second half yards. Cmon YAC. I would never look at this game and say the defense could have been better. You should win 100% of the games where the defense gives up 1 total touchdown and 52 total second half yards. Should never lose a game like that.

The defense was stellar after they had a couple mental errors. Their OL only gave up 10 sacks all year. Insane.

That is exactly what I was referring to. Good job by SWH taking things out of context.

Out of context? You said we could have been better early on in the game....which is why I asked you if early meant the first drive of the game. Not sure how thats out of context in the slightest bit.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?

816 referenced him originally.

Hmm…never saw him being RM up. Either way he has no bearing on the niners RZ last year.
Originally posted by picklejuice:

No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Nov 17, 2022 at 10:38 AM ]
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NCommand:
They were #1. Now they're #17. And that's improved.

If Kyle can figure that out with MORE talent on the field he'll be rolling. But he's got to do it. 3 HB runs up the gut aren't cutting it.

Where did I say improved? I don't care about the ranking....I care about the number. Some years 64% gets to number 1 other years it doesn't.

That's fine. Just showing you the drop off. We have far better pass protection, Jimmy is playing far better and we have far more weapons. Should there be a drop off at all? And why would there be? You think Raheem Mostert?

How many actual games have we had all the weapons together? You form cohesion by playing together. Usually stacking reps helps cure offensive ills. Got to find those go-to concepts. Last Year the Deebo sweep took the league by storm.....Not surprisingly, the league is looking for these.

Jimmy is a good player and is playing well. There's nothing magical about this. If he continues this arch and the team stays healthy, this team will put forth a top offense. Our sample size just with CMC shows an offense scoring over 25+, gaining almost 400+ yards and converting 3rd down at a crazy 55% rate. It's just not as bad as it seems.

Do we really need a full compliment of Deebo, Aiyuk, Jennings, Juice, Mitchell, CMC, Kittle, etc. to be better in the RZ though?

Are we seeing any creativity down there? Guys just not winning? Jimmy not seeing them?

What are you seeing this year compared to last year? Deebo/Mostert.

Why do you keep bringing up Mostert from last year as it pertains to the rankings?

816 referenced him originally.

Hmm…never saw him being RM up. Either way he has no bearing on the niners RZ last year.

Go back one page. My bad.
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Watch a few minutes of this. The formations, motion, shifts, OL pulling/trapping/etc. Tell me this doesn't remind you of Kyle's running scheme lol.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
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i really like stats visualized in this format
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tua-tagovailoa-vs-jimmy-garoppolo-why-the-miami-dolphins-qb-has-been-more-productive-in-similar-offense

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The very first thing in their report just killed it. LOL. We have the worst deep threats even when we do try.

  • Transforming the Shanahan offense: Tua Tagovailoa sets himself apart from Jimmy Garoppolo with his willingness to throw downfield.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
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"I think Tua is much better and more comfortable in the RPO game, which has been huge for Miami," an NFC personnel executive said. "I think Tua is better at reading defenses and/or manipulating defenders with his eyes. Tua also looks more comfortable throwing to all parts of the field."
Originally posted by picklejuice:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
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i really like stats visualized in this format

They also are a pass centric team. Only 235 rushing attempts through 10 games.

Kyle don't roll that way. He already told you what he thinks about deeper shots.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 17, 2022 at 10:51 AM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
What we seeing is Jimmy G is the same old Jimmy, NOT ELITE, he's on schedule to pass for 22 TDs, 2 more than last season, hardly elite or even probowl, let's blame that on KS 🤣

And don't forget ANY receivers who drops catchable passes that could turn into TDs, please also be malcontents and blame those on KS TOO 🤣!!!!!!!!!!!!

FING RIDICULOUS.

I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

Watch a few minutes of this. The formations, motion, shifts, OL pulling/trapping/etc. Tell me this doesn't remind you of Kyle's running scheme lol.


Ha.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tua-tagovailoa-vs-jimmy-garoppolo-why-the-miami-dolphins-qb-has-been-more-productive-in-similar-offense

PFF just lost their #1 fan

lol
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.

What? You must never watch his post-game comments. He has noted multiple times that he made mistakes he should not have made.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.

What? You must never watch his post-game comments. He has noted multiple times that he made mistakes he should not have made.

lol.. can't really make any excuse for being non-elite which is what he is I mean he can't even break 1.875 TDs per game 🤣 does it really matter how many good to great weapons the 9ers have available to him on offense to throw to? Also missing wide open receivers on TD throws is ALL on him as QB1.

This is also the reason why I said so many times to just FING RUN THE BALL, take it out of his hands. And why Deebo was used so much as a runner last season because Jimmy is really a ineffective passer aka a none probowl QB.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Nov 17, 2022 at 12:18 PM ]
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