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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.

What? You must never watch his post-game comments. He has noted multiple times that he made mistakes he should not have made.

"Usually never" though.
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.

Saying 'sorry, my bad' at a press conference is a requirement to be hired by a team?
Originally posted by dj43:
What? You must never watch his post-game comments. He has noted multiple times that he made mistakes he should not have made.

100% this.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Originally posted by picklejuice:

No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.

Saying 'sorry, my bad' at a press conference is a requirement to be hired by a team?

He's a backup and a nonprobowl QB. He might not even be a starter next season some where else depending on how this seasons ends for him. He might easily be the scapegoat again when they lose in the playoffs, regardless he made tons of money in the NFL already for being a nonprobowl QB, keep that in mind.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Nov 17, 2022 at 12:12 PM ]
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Saying 'sorry, my bad' at a press conference is a requirement to be hired by a team?

It's a requirement to make it to the Mets minor league farm system.

The GOAT! ...

at saying sorry..

he can teach JG the way of the post game

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tua-tagovailoa-vs-jimmy-garoppolo-why-the-miami-dolphins-qb-has-been-more-productive-in-similar-offense

PFF just lost their #1 fan

The very first thing in their report just killed it. LOL. We have the worst deep threats even when we do try.

  • Transforming the Shanahan offense: Tua Tagovailoa sets himself apart from Jimmy Garoppolo with his willingness to throw downfield.

"I think it's just playmakers," an AFC analytics executive contended. "Samuel and Aiyuk are one of the top WR duos in the league and Hill and Waddle are still far better."

That, and Shanahan's preference to run the ball over passing. Some have mentioned Lance's stronger arm as the reason he was selected. While I agree that was a part of it, the larger reason was Shanahan's preference for a running QB that would amplify the running game.

It is ironic that Garoppolo's inability to stay healthy was a big part of the reason to draft Lance and now he is the one that is missing playing time due to injury. That is not only costing us in terms of development, but it is also wasting his rookie contract benefit. While that is not Lance's fault, it will all play into the future of how this team goes next year.
Originally posted by dj43:
"I think it's just playmakers," an AFC analytics executive contended. "Samuel and Aiyuk are one of the top WR duos in the league and Hill and Waddle are still far better."

That, and Shanahan's preference to run the ball over passing. Some have mentioned Lance's stronger arm as the reason he was selected. While I agree that was a part of it, the larger reason was Shanahan's preference for a running QB that would amplify the running game.

It is ironic that Garoppolo's inability to stay healthy was a big part of the reason to draft Lance and now he is the one that is missing playing time due to injury. That is not only costing us in terms of development, but it is also wasting his rookie contract benefit. While that is not Lance's fault, it will all play into the future of how this team goes next year.

Hill and Waddle are better WRs. Both have more speed to separate than Deebo and AB, Hill has already proven over time and Waddle has already eclipse 1000 yds. And Tua is a way better and more talent QB than Jimmy ever will be.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tua-tagovailoa-vs-jimmy-garoppolo-why-the-miami-dolphins-qb-has-been-more-productive-in-similar-offense

PFF just lost their #1 fan

The very first thing in their report just killed it. LOL. We have the worst deep threats even when we do try.

  • Transforming the Shanahan offense: Tua Tagovailoa sets himself apart from Jimmy Garoppolo with his willingness to throw downfield.

"I think it's just playmakers," an AFC analytics executive contended. "Samuel and Aiyuk are one of the top WR duos in the league and Hill and Waddle are still far better."

That, and Shanahan's preference to run the ball over passing. Some have mentioned Lance's stronger arm as the reason he was selected. While I agree that was a part of it, the larger reason was Shanahan's preference for a running QB that would amplify the running game.

It is ironic that Garoppolo's inability to stay healthy was a big part of the reason to draft Lance and now he is the one that is missing playing time due to injury. That is not only costing us in terms of development, but it is also wasting his rookie contract benefit. While that is not Lance's fault, it will all play into the future of how this team goes next year.

Yeah, pretty different skill sets. Ours are 3 cone YAC monsters who instantly win off the LOS and operate under 15 yards but excel within the first 5 yards. Theirs are vertical and horizontal stretchers who create more and more separation down the field.

Same system. Two very different philosophies within it.

Yeah, such a bummer. I would have loved to see how Kyle was going to use him more and more esp. within the passing game.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 17, 2022 at 12:40 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
"I think it's just playmakers," an AFC analytics executive contended. "Samuel and Aiyuk are one of the top WR duos in the league and Hill and Waddle are still far better."

That, and Shanahan's preference to run the ball over passing. Some have mentioned Lance's stronger arm as the reason he was selected. While I agree that was a part of it, the larger reason was Shanahan's preference for a running QB that would amplify the running game.

It is ironic that Garoppolo's inability to stay healthy was a big part of the reason to draft Lance and now he is the one that is missing playing time due to injury. That is not only costing us in terms of development, but it is also wasting his rookie contract benefit. While that is not Lance's fault, it will all play into the future of how this team goes next year.

It's turned into KS inability to keep the most important position healthy.

I said back vs KC the JG first injury it was so dumb imo. He had the boundary. KC mocked him after the game saying it was his fault for not going out of bounds.

I wonder if KS ever grabbed JG by the shoulders and said look you are too valuable to take dumb, unnecessary hits. Would have been great to do that once you sign him to record money, the 5 years $137million.

Yet here in 2022 we see no sliding, no getting down, no going out of bounds, no throwing it away from either QB. Just terrible.. Heck the tv crew doing the Bears game week 1 called us out they said our TL deployment was reckless.. given the investment.
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.
And that's a crime? During the course of any given season you can count on two hands the number of truly elite QB's in the league and you would still have fingers left over. And even then you can look at guys like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen who are generally considered to be better QB's than Jimmy and say, fine, they're better, how many title games have they taken their teams to in the last four years? Was that Chief's/Buffalo game last year a title game, I don't remember, but if it was it means that these superior QB's have less title games between them in the last four years than Jimmy has and he was out all of one year and hurt for most of another.

Seems to me that the lesson to be drawn from that is that it isn't always having an elite QB who makes the difference in reaching the Super Bowl, it's about having the better TEAM and Jimmy, for all of his shortcomings helps this team win more than he causes them to lose. That's just a simple fact.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
No doubt Jimmy tries his hardest to compete as a NFL QB but he's just not elite, the other problem with Jimmy is he usually never takes the blame when the team loses even when he specifically makes rookie bonehead mistakes and decisions, probably why no other team wanted to trade for him and he just became the backup here.. sadly will probably be the scapegoat again if the team loses in the playoffs, NFCC, or SB but he already GOT PAID, so you really can't feel bad for him.
And that's a crime? During the course of any given season you can count on two hands the number of truly elite QB's in the league and you would still have fingers left over. And even then you can look at guys like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen who are generally considered to be better QB's than Jimmy and say, fine, they're better, how many title games have they taken their teams to in the last four years? Was that Chief's/Buffalo game last year a title game, I don't remember, but if it was it means that these superior QB's have less title games between them in the last four years than Jimmy has and he was out all of one year and hurt for most of another.

Seems to me that the lesson to be drawn from that is that it isn't always having an elite QB who makes the difference in reaching the Super Bowl, it's about having the better TEAM and Jimmy, for all of his shortcomings helps this team win more than he causes them to lose. That's just a simple fact.

lol.. never said it was a crime. It's a JOKE the bored sports media along with the miserable malcontent fans are pushing a narrative that the problem is KS and the playcalling when the limitations to the passing game of the offense is on QB1, a limited non-elite nonprobowl QB who is brought back now as a backup who never broke pass 1.875 TDs per game in his career and he's already over 30 and have already choked in a SB and the NFCC just last season. Don't get it twisted, those are proven facts already.

If you see the facts and truth in things you laugh. If you don't see through things then you become clouded and confused and easily fooled through life and that is a miserable one to live.
[ Edited by ChillninDaBay on Nov 17, 2022 at 12:39 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol that's not calling out s**t. Look at the damn play and see what the problem was. Not just the result of it. Perfect example are those two missed RPOs, both went for negative yards BUT in reality if the QB read it properly it was a TD and the other was at the very least an explosive (possible TD).

You want to call about bad play calling…well show it what the proper play call should have been?

Run Mike McDaniel's aggressively smart RPOs instead of our predictable ones. Duh

Lol
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-tua-tagovailoa-vs-jimmy-garoppolo-why-the-miami-dolphins-qb-has-been-more-productive-in-similar-offense

PFF just lost their #1 fan

Hahaha
Originally posted by YACBros85:
When it comes to redzone failures this season. I have seen whiffed blocks, missed open receivers, dropped passes, INT's and penalties to name a few.

Same
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think it's fair to blame it on KS. TL had 0 TDs in 5 qtrs under KS this year.

Blame may be the wrong word. It's just the KS philosophy. Get so forward thinking with your mindset that you loop around to the era that predates the forward pass.

With that kinda sample size who can question it.

In a monsoon for 4QRs and two drives. But who needs context amirite?
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