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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
NFL QB index is out on NFL.com

JG 12th

between Herbert 11 and Rodgers 13

here is the blurb!

Another super clean outing from Jimmy G. has the Niners sitting pretty atop the NFC West with the tiebreaker over Seattle. Garoppolo's 228 yards and four scoring strikes (tying his career high) headlined San Francisco's romp over the Cardinals. Arizona's defense came into Monday night bleeding yards after the catch, and Jimmy's deep stable of playmakers -- George Kittle, Deebo Samuel, Christian McCaffrey and Brandon Aiyuk -- spent the four quarters dancing through enemy territory. The Niners' offense sits poised on the horizon as a major problem for the rest of the NFC. -NFL.com

The thing the anti-QBR people aren't understanding, is that his ranking in QBR is for the TOTALITY of the season. But he's CURRENTLY better than that, because how he's playing now is not how he was playing in week 3. He probably, honestly, should be higher than 12, if we're ranking how they're playing right now. I suspect there is a lack of trust that he'll continue at this level.

Then how do you explain the other s**tshow QB's?

At the end of the day, it's all about how you operationally define your stats. And this one, like PFF's 65.6 grade of Jimmy last game is a s**tshow. And the week before is even worse!

Which are those? Geno is having a career year. Tua is flat out good, and he's going to win the MVP this season. Cooper Rush played well enough over a three game span that Jerry World was questioning whether or not Dak should be given the starting job back immediately. Brissett has played better than average on a bad team.

Also, PFF is not ESPN. I have a much better feel for ESPN's QBR than PFF, because ESPN uses some things I understand, like EPA, which actually do correlate somewhat with wins. PFF seems more arbitrary (but to be fair I've not paid much attention to them). The only mystery regarding Total QBR is how those EPA stats are weighted.

You're smart enough to get the premise. I know this for a fact. When you put your mind to it, you're actually very objective even if it goes against your initial grain. YAC is the same way and I respect that tremendously.
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
So one comment versus thousands of yours in here negative about Jimmy is the same thing? Lol okay, dude.

Did you see the QBR leaderboards since 2016 I posted?

They change the formula when they want to, and have definitely changes it since 2016. Just look at the year to year leaders and you'll see many changes to the stats. They also don't give the actual formula so no one knows how they come up with it. But since it suits your argument, and since you value Sportscenter Top Ten plays and fantasy football over winning football games - by all means, continue to reference it.

Still waiting for that link to "all of the players who laughed at QB rating."

Lol you serious? How long have you been watching football? Plenty of former QBs always mocked QB rating.

Plenty? Should be easy to cite then. I'm 48 years old and have watched, played, and coached football my entire life. You?

Lmao,then you obviously sucked at all the above.

Yet it you coming up with exactly zero examples to back up your claim. Stick to trolling and s**t posting, that's your specialty.

Ya that's definitely mine. Not your anti vax, maga, I have 150 IQ, I coach football, and I spend all day cosplaying as a gatekeep for threads.

Good one man.

Half of your posts are emojis only or "lol." Pathetic. Go to the 24/7 thread and spam post with the other bots to get your post count up. There are adults in here talking about football, you're out of your element.

You're taking a bunch of Ls already from many posters. Stop crying already. I'm sorry I'm not gonna take guys like you seriously and have a football discussion, especially when you throw the i played and coached on a football forum. You sound pathetic and insecure.

You literally asked how long I've been watching football lol. And you still haven't provided any examples to back up your claim.

The only ones crying are the Jimmy haters because he's playing well and the team is winning.
Originally posted by EnglishIsALoser:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Uh, J.T. O'Sullivan was an absolutely horrible QB and one of the biggest morons to ever play the position. He is absolutely clueless. He was an INT machine himself and couldn't read coverages to save his life. He should literally be banned from talking about football.

Something tells me you won't be around here very long.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.

Did you watch the whole video where he praised Jimmy the entire time? Or just found the one nugget to take a shot at Jimmy?

"One of his biggest fans" 🤡

Did you acutally listen to the content of what he said though, halfway through the clip?

jonny....film matters,....I concur, sir.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by EnglishIsALoser:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Uh, J.T. O'Sullivan was an absolutely horrible QB and one of the biggest morons to ever play the position. He is absolutely clueless. He was an INT machine himself and couldn't read coverages to save his life. He should literally be banned from talking about football.

Something tells me you won't be around here very long.

Entertaining nonetheless...lol.

[ Edited by random49er on Nov 23, 2022 at 4:25 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude you're so emotional. The apology form is a joke, you don't have to actually fill it out and own up to your hate of Jimmy. Everything will be okay. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. Let me know if you need a hug.

Now you're being condescending…grow up man.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.

Did you watch the whole video where he praised Jimmy the entire time? Or just found the one nugget to take a shot at Jimmy?

"One of his biggest fans" 🤡

I only posted the tweet by JT. He's the one that chose to highlight this play.

As one of his biggest fans, I only want him to be the best QB he can be, which means confronting the things he needs to work on.
Originally posted by NCommand:
You're smart enough to get the premise. I know this for a fact. When you put your mind to it, you're actually very objective even if it goes against your initial grain. YAC is the same way and I respect that tremendously.

I don't see alot of 5GR's post but I agree with you on YAC. He seems to be the best poster here when it comes to objectivity imo. Also seems like he works in some sort of analytics type field.
i just want jimmy g to take more deep shots and back shots on your momma like that post play jt o sullivan pointed out.
[ Edited by picklejuice on Nov 23, 2022 at 4:28 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
from John Lynch



"COMMAND" of our offense

I've been seeing this lately on the WZ was this ever an issue? With him being here since 2017 in a starter capacity did anyone doubt he had command of KS offense?

according to random, yeah
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Dude you're so emotional. The apology form is a joke, you don't have to actually fill it out and own up to your hate of Jimmy. Everything will be okay. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. Let me know if you need a hug.

Now you're being condescending…grow up man.


Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.

Ut oh, one clip of him not seeing the field!!! You sir are a hater for ever posting this…

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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
from John Lynch



"COMMAND" of our offense

I've been seeing this lately on the WZ was this ever an issue? With him being here since 2017 in a starter capacity did anyone doubt he had command of KS offense?

according to random, yeah

Lol
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.

Did you watch the whole video where he praised Jimmy the entire time? Or just found the one nugget to take a shot at Jimmy?

"One of his biggest fans" 🤡

Did you acutally listen to the content of what he said though, halfway through the clip?

jonny....film matters,....I concur, sir.

If you watched my breakdown, I included this play and I wrote the script last night and recorded it this morning before I even saw JTO's post.

It's weird though, you only EVER think film matters when it confirms how you feel about Jimmy in a negative light. I've shared numerous plays on my channel highlighting missed plays or poor plays. How many good plays have you shared here, from film?
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.

Did you watch the whole video where he praised Jimmy the entire time? Or just found the one nugget to take a shot at Jimmy?

"One of his biggest fans" 🤡

Did you acutally listen to the content of what he said though, halfway through the clip?

jonny....film matters,....I concur, sir.

If you watched my breakdown, I included this play and I wrote the script last night and recorded it this morning before I even saw JTO's post.

It's weird though, you only EVER think film matters when it confirms how you feel about Jimmy in a negative light. I've shared numerous plays on my channel highlighting missed plays or poor plays. How many good plays have you shared here, from film?

Random 🤡 show.
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