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Nov 24, 2022 at 7:25 AM
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb
[ Edited by 5thSFG on Nov 24, 2022 at 7:31 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:31 AM
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb…. I'll just assume you'll take home over Jimmy as well.

Its actually not the same thing. Jerry Rice was the GOAT. All the QBs I mentioned are playing right now. Yeah Brady is the GOAT but its not like I put Montana and Young there either.

And yeah I would take Kirk over Jimmy. He has been more consistently good over the course of his career. I'd also be take Dak, Hurts, etc
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:33 AM
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb

Career-wise Cousins has been the better QB. This season though, Jimmy has been the better QB.
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:36 AM
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb

Career-wise Cousins has been the better QB. This season though, Jimmy has been the better QB.
Not by W - L, which was used so much here for 5 years
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Nov 24, 2022 at 7:37 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:42 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb

Career-wise Cousins has been the better QB. This season though, Jimmy has been the better QB.
Not by W - L, which was used so much here for 5 years

I tend to think that cousins would be a little better than Jimmy in this scheme. I also tend to think that cousins has had the worst contract in football for years. No thanks.

And I think Jimmy is better in the locker room than Kirk
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:48 AM
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:

A bit harsh, but I never played QB in the NFL, so I'll defer to the experts.
Oh man .. he had Aiyuk wide open deep

There was a similar play left on the field against the Chargers.

I mean, using a baseball analogy here, it kind of feels like Jimmy saw a fastball right down the pipe but took the bunt single instead of swinging for the fences.

Ultimately, it's just one play, and otherwise he's been playing lights out. You'd love for him to hit them all, but at the end of the day, if the overall body of work is as good as its been, I'm happy with it. But I do still hope in the future, this is stuff that Trey will routinely hit and will ultimately become a much superior player.

What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

Youre not wrong. But your also using the goat, the back to back mvp, and two dudes competing for future goat as your reference points.

He's good, he's not generationally great…. thats what you're saying.

And that seems a little spoiled to me.

happy thanksgiving 👍🏻👍🏻

I'm spoiled because I want a top 10 QB over a top 15 QB? More like you all have been metaphorically stuck in prison too long and Jimmy is the only female correction officer everyone is trying to hook up with

I'm not trying to start an argument… just pointing out the qbs you listed are "top 10" in the same way Jerry rice was a "top 10" receiver.

kirk cousins is a top 10 qb

Career-wise Cousins has been the better QB. This season though, Jimmy has been the better QB.
Not by W - L, which was used so much here for 5 years

W-L is a team stat. If your QB is throwing over 30 TD's and less than 10 INT's, it is difficult to blame the QB for not making the playoffs. Coaching means everything in football. Remember when the chargers had the #1 offense and #1 defense and failed to make the playoffs? We win a lot because of coaching and how this team plays for one another. We have one of, if not, the best locker rooms in the entire NFL. You cannot say the same for the vikings.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Nov 24, 2022 at 7:49 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:49 AM
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
I tend to think that cousins would be a little better than Jimmy in this scheme. I also tend to think that cousins has had the worst contract in football for years. No thanks.

And I think Jimmy is better in the locker room than Kirk

What about Kirko Chainz tho
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:50 AM
Originally posted by jonnydel:

I never know what to make of Steve's comments these days. One minute he's all in on Lance and how Jimmy got 'fired' from the team because of this that and the other thing and how he isn't the guy to carry the team forward. And now this quote. You gotta love the fact that Steve remains a 49er through and through but I'm not sure these contrary takes really help the narrative around the team.

A lot of the usual suspects are in here giving Jimmy grudging credit for playing well while at the same time insisting he will inevitably return to what they deem his normal play. My take is that Jimmy is playing to his potential and that his current success doesn't surprise me at all. It is something he has always been capable of but which has occasionally been untracked by a tendency for errant throws and kind of head scratching picks. Clearly McCaffrey's presence has helped a lot by giving him a reliable check down option that keeps him from feeling he needs to try and force the ball into tight windows to make a play.

There has been a lot of chatter about a play you mentioned in your recent breakdown where Jimmy hit McCaffrey on a short route that picked up a first down when he possibly had an opportunity for a bigger play with Aiyuk further down the field. And of course all of the usual suspects are latching onto this as proof of Jimmy not being a "big play" QB. The situation isn't helped of course by the fact that career back-up, I never took any team to a playoff game, JT O'Sullivan chose to highlight that play and insist that any real QB has to make that throw. With all that in mind I would be curious as to your take on the current level of Jimmy's play. Is he actually playing better than he has in the past or is he just finally in a better position with McCaffrey's presence to utilize the traits he has always possessed?
[ Edited by 49ers81 on Nov 24, 2022 at 8:27 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 7:58 AM
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by jonnydel:

I never know what to make of Steve's comments these days. One minute he's all in on Lance and how Jimmy got 'fired' from the team because of this that and the other thing and how he isn't the guy to carry the team forward. And now this quote. You gotta love the fact that Steve remains a 49er through and through but I'm not sure these contrary takes really help the narrative around the team.

A lot of the usual suspects are in here giving Jimmy grudging credit for playing well while at the same time insisting he will inevitably return to what they deem his normal play. My take is that Jimmy is playing to his potential and that his current success doesn't surprise me at all. It is something he has always been capable of but which has occasionally been untracked by a penitent for errant throws and kind of head scratching picks. Clearly McCaffrey's presence has helped a lot by giving him a reliable check down option that keeps him from feeling he needs to try and force the ball into tight windows to make a play.

There has been a lot of chatter about a play you mentioned in your recent breakdown where Jimmy hit McCaffrey on a short route that picked up a first down when he possibly had an opportunity for a bigger play with Aiyuk further down the field. And of course all of the usual suspects are latching onto this as proof of Jimmy not being a "big play" QB. The situation isn't helped of course by the fact that career back-up, I never took any team to a playoff game, JT O'Sullivan chose to highlight that play and insist that any real QB has to make that throw. With all that in mind I would be curious as to your take on the current level of Jimmy's play. Is he actually playing better than he has in the past or is he just finally in a better position with McCaffrey's presence to utilize the traits he has always possessed?

LOL @ Steve Young. Dude was just saying Kyle has trust issues with Jimmy and wants to draw up 500 yard passing games.

I blame Aeneas Williams.
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:17 AM
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Why does JT get so much hate as an analyst? Just because he wasn't good enough for the NFL doesn't mean he doesn't understand football. Not one person in here played in the NFL - hell most of us never even played in college or high school - yet everyone has a strong opinion.

Not saying I agree with him 100% of the time but the dude definitely knows the game and the position.
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:22 AM
thus far, for the 1st time in his career, Jimmy Garappolo is in that pro bowl discussion.
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:23 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Why does JT get so much hate as an analyst? Just because he wasn't good enough for the NFL doesn't mean he doesn't understand football. Not one person in here played in the NFL - hell most of us never even played in college or high school - yet everyone has a strong opinion.

Not saying I agree with him 100% of the time but the dude definitely knows the game and the position.

Agreed. It's like saying Brian Griese cant coach QBs because he wasnt a hall of famer
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:25 AM
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Keep those countdowns to nothing coming.

only guarantees that he'll sign an extension after he wins the super bowl.

Say bye to Bosa if you want to sign Jimmy to $30M per. Say bye to Jimmie Ward. Say bye to upgrading RT. Say bye to getting another CB. Say bye to upgrading anything. Say bye to Lance because you're all but telling him and the league he was a bust after 4 QRs of football….yeah I don't see this FO, ownership and coaching staff going in that direction.

if they win the SB, it then gives Kyle more breathing room to develop Lance and gives the team money to keep everything around the QB going long-term.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 24, 2022 at 8:27 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:27 AM
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
What we are seeing right now is the best version of Jimmy, which is really good. But is the best version of Jimmy still a limit on the potential of this offense? Imagine Brady/Rodgers/Mahomes/Allen/Herbert in this offense with these weapons.

No hate on Jimmy, but the coaching staff knows what it's doing when it comes to the QB position.

This is what my train of thought is. That's the idea with Lance - that he'd be able to hit a few more big plays because he would take the deep shot that Jimmy seems to not take. That's also the key difference between a very good Jimmy G the last several weeks and Matt Ryan in 2016 in this offense. Circumstances being what they are, I just can't see Kyle choosing to keep this status quo come offseason when: 1. Keeping the status quo will come with a huge price tag, 2. They see the higher ceiling to open up those plays as being with Lance.
[ Edited by captveg on Nov 24, 2022 at 8:33 AM ]
Nov 24, 2022 at 8:28 AM
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
thus far, for the 1st time in his career, Jimmy Garappolo is in that pro bowl discussion.

Who in the nfc is actually in that discussion? Hurts? Cousins? Geno?
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