Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

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It seems like more receiver should be able to get open downfield since most teams know the Niners love the short passing routes. Aiyuk, CMC, Deebo and even Kittle are fast enough to get open. Then we have Rat-Ray who I would like to see a little more of.

Going downfield more takes more time for play to develop though, can our OL hold up for play to develop

There have been a handful of times recently where Jimmy has opted for the checkdown even though the bigger play was available.

That's been mentioned during broadcasts sometimes. I wonder if Jimmy isn't seeing them when they get open of he just doesn't feel comfortable throwing deep. I think his arm is strong enough to make deep throws. The only problem I've seen is his accuracy on the longer throws and the fact that he has to put more air under the ball to get it that far. That gives the DBs more time to recover.

I am not sure what it is because we have seen Jimmy make those throws this season. Like the one to Dwelley and the one to Ray-Ray being the most recent. I know Kyle doesn't seem to care. But for me, if the bigger play is available you take it every time. There is no guarantee you are going to dink and dunk down the field every drive and score TD's. Especially with how poor our run game has been in the redzone this season.

I've been with you on "taking shots" until you said the bolded. No, not every time. If we have a lead and there is a guaranteed first down which will milk another 3 minutes off the clock, you take that rather than risk a 50/50 deep shot for a touchdown. I can't imagine that this isn't said by Kyle repeatedly to Jimmy and every 49ers QB. He is simply a VERY conservative play caller and coach. Rarely goes for it on 4th down. Rarely passes with a lead. I was honestly shocked when he let Jimmy throw that out route to Jennings on 3rd down late in the game, can't even remember the last time that happened.

So yes, I think everyone agrees we can and should take more deep shots. It's a process of the right personnel at WR, timing, OL protection, and QB/coach willingness. Obviously Jimmy has the ability because we've seen it in 2017 and now this year. Deep shots are coach and QB; not sure you can place more "blame" on one or the other.

To me, saying "a bigger play is available" does NOT mean a 50/50 ball. It means there is a play that should be made.

Exactly!

I don't necessarily think Shanahan is a conservative playcaller, per se. With the Falcons in the Super Bowl, he tried passing to score a TD with a fourth quarter lead, but they took a sack and were taken out of field goal range. Rather... with the 49ers personnel the way it's been the past few years, conservative run calls are what he's turned to. Some of it may be to protect Jimmy, but I do think it's also a belief in the 49ers run game as well as the 49ers defense. It served them well in their overall W/L record since we acquired Jimmy, though obviously we know we have two major L's where we can criticize fourth quarter playcalling.

However, that's all in the past. The 2016 Falcons are a different team from the 2017-2021 49ers. And likewise, the 2022 49ers are different from last year's team. I think we're in uncharted territory now for the offense. David Lombardi pointed out recently that the analytics suggest the 49ers are a better passing team than running team. The last few games, we're seeing a change in offensive approach. We've come out passing, and as it was pointed out, we threw on 3rd and 5 to Jennings during a 4 minute offense situation.

I really really wonder if we're now in a time where we... "Let Jimmy Cook."

Saints d are better pass defenders than run defenders but went into the game with a plan to stop our run. They did a great job for the most part. Shanahan trusted Jimmy to throw the ball 37 times against a top 10 pass defense. Jimmy showed some real grit in the game. Should have had 2 TD passes if that one to Jennings was thrown a little further out in front of him. Should have been a holding call and a fresh set of downs on that play also because #55 tackled Deebo in the endzone. There should have been a couple more roughing the passer calls as well.

I think NC is going to get his wish. I think we will be more pass centric the rest of this season. But Jimmy has to take advantage of what defenses are giving us and that doesn't necessarily mean the underneath stuff. If safeties and corners are going to cheat and abandon the deep routes, we need to take advantage of it more often and make them pay. Doing so often enough will open up the underneath routes even more.

If we become more pass centrc we will lose. I do agree we need to push the ball down the field but Jiimmy does not gave the skill set to do so on a consistent basis. We are becoming easier and easier to defend because defenses dont need to honor the long ball or passes outsde the numbers Alot of our offense is generated in and around the line of scrimmage. This is why i believe TL was drafted, to overcome these limitations. Pound the rock and dont put the game Jimmys hands. That was the recipe in 2019 and its why we have been reasonably successful with a limited QB.

The 22nd ranked run defense just held us under 100 yards rushing and 3.3 YPC and dared us to beat them through the air. Kyle trusted Jimmy to pass the ball 37x against a top 10 pass defense. Neither Kyle nor Jimmy have anything to lose this season. I want to see how far those two can push the passing game. If we can really open it up and turn it into a strength it maybe the difference maker come playoff time.

I agree, our run game is diminishing but if you let Jimmy start chucking the ball 40 times all over the yard your asking for trouble. Do you really think we can go into Philly in January with that kinda of gameplan and win? We will probably be on the road for most of the playoffs so you better run the rock and play solid D and ask Jimmy to compliment the offense in the passing game.

We will live and die with our running game and exceptional defense so Kyle better figure it out.

So we should live and DIE by our running game no matter what and not even give the passing game an opportunity to open up? This passing game is different with CMC. The O line is pretty damn solid in pass pro. Jimmy has really cut down on the wtf throws and is playing his best football this season. We have Kittle and a solid group of receivers.

We may have won a lot of games being run heavy but the run game has failed us in some pretty crucial moments and games in the playoffs. Should we completely abandon the run game? No. But at some point you have to stop beating your head against the wall and just take what the opposing defense is willing to give you. Defenses are selling out to stop the run and daring us to beat them through the air. Its time to start making them pay.

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Originally posted by TD49ers:

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It seems like more receiver should be able to get open downfield since most teams know the Niners love the short passing routes. Aiyuk, CMC, Deebo and even Kittle are fast enough to get open. Then we have Rat-Ray who I would like to see a little more of.

Going downfield more takes more time for play to develop though, can our OL hold up for play to develop

There have been a handful of times recently where Jimmy has opted for the checkdown even though the bigger play was available.

That's been mentioned during broadcasts sometimes. I wonder if Jimmy isn't seeing them when they get open of he just doesn't feel comfortable throwing deep. I think his arm is strong enough to make deep throws. The only problem I've seen is his accuracy on the longer throws and the fact that he has to put more air under the ball to get it that far. That gives the DBs more time to recover.

I am not sure what it is because we have seen Jimmy make those throws this season. Like the one to Dwelley and the one to Ray-Ray being the most recent. I know Kyle doesn't seem to care. But for me, if the bigger play is available you take it every time. There is no guarantee you are going to dink and dunk down the field every drive and score TD's. Especially with how poor our run game has been in the redzone this season.

I've been with you on "taking shots" until you said the bolded. No, not every time. If we have a lead and there is a guaranteed first down which will milk another 3 minutes off the clock, you take that rather than risk a 50/50 deep shot for a touchdown. I can't imagine that this isn't said by Kyle repeatedly to Jimmy and every 49ers QB. He is simply a VERY conservative play caller and coach. Rarely goes for it on 4th down. Rarely passes with a lead. I was honestly shocked when he let Jimmy throw that out route to Jennings on 3rd down late in the game, can't even remember the last time that happened.

So yes, I think everyone agrees we can and should take more deep shots. It's a process of the right personnel at WR, timing, OL protection, and QB/coach willingness. Obviously Jimmy has the ability because we've seen it in 2017 and now this year. Deep shots are coach and QB; not sure you can place more "blame" on one or the other.

To me, saying "a bigger play is available" does NOT mean a 50/50 ball. It means there is a play that should be made.

Exactly!

I don't necessarily think Shanahan is a conservative playcaller, per se. With the Falcons in the Super Bowl, he tried passing to score a TD with a fourth quarter lead, but they took a sack and were taken out of field goal range. Rather... with the 49ers personnel the way it's been the past few years, conservative run calls are what he's turned to. Some of it may be to protect Jimmy, but I do think it's also a belief in the 49ers run game as well as the 49ers defense. It served them well in their overall W/L record since we acquired Jimmy, though obviously we know we have two major L's where we can criticize fourth quarter playcalling.

However, that's all in the past. The 2016 Falcons are a different team from the 2017-2021 49ers. And likewise, the 2022 49ers are different from last year's team. I think we're in uncharted territory now for the offense. David Lombardi pointed out recently that the analytics suggest the 49ers are a better passing team than running team. The last few games, we're seeing a change in offensive approach. We've come out passing, and as it was pointed out, we threw on 3rd and 5 to Jennings during a 4 minute offense situation.

I really really wonder if we're now in a time where we... "Let Jimmy Cook."

Saints d are better pass defenders than run defenders but went into the game with a plan to stop our run. They did a great job for the most part. Shanahan trusted Jimmy to throw the ball 37 times against a top 10 pass defense. Jimmy showed some real grit in the game. Should have had 2 TD passes if that one to Jennings was thrown a little further out in front of him. Should have been a holding call and a fresh set of downs on that play also because #55 tackled Deebo in the endzone. There should have been a couple more roughing the passer calls as well.

I think NC is going to get his wish. I think we will be more pass centric the rest of this season. But Jimmy has to take advantage of what defenses are giving us and that doesn't necessarily mean the underneath stuff. If safeties and corners are going to cheat and abandon the deep routes, we need to take advantage of it more often and make them pay. Doing so often enough will open up the underneath routes even more.

If we become more pass centrc we will lose. I do agree we need to push the ball down the field but Jiimmy does not gave the skill set to do so on a consistent basis. We are becoming easier and easier to defend because defenses dont need to honor the long ball or passes outsde the numbers Alot of our offense is generated in and around the line of scrimmage. This is why i believe TL was drafted, to overcome these limitations. Pound the rock and dont put the game Jimmys hands. That was the recipe in 2019 and its why we have been reasonably successful with a limited QB.

The 22nd ranked run defense just held us under 100 yards rushing and 3.3 YPC and dared us to beat them through the air. Kyle trusted Jimmy to pass the ball 37x against a top 10 pass defense. Neither Kyle nor Jimmy have anything to lose this season. I want to see how far those two can push the passing game. If we can really open it up and turn it into a strength it maybe the difference maker come playoff time.

I agree, our run game is diminishing but if you let Jimmy start chucking the ball 40 times all over the yard your asking for trouble. Do you really think we can go into Philly in January with that kinda of gameplan and win? We will probably be on the road for most of the playoffs so you better run the rock and play solid D and ask Jimmy to compliment the offense in the passing game.

We will live and die with our running game and exceptional defense so Kyle better figure it out.

So we should live and DIE by our running game no matter what and not even give the passing game an opportunity to open up? This passing game is different with CMC. The O line is pretty damn solid in pass pro. Jimmy has really cut down on the wtf throws and is playing his best football this season. We have Kittle and a solid group of receivers.

We may have won a lot of games being run heavy but the run game has failed us in some pretty crucial moments and games in the playoffs. Should we completely abandon the run game? No. But at some point you have to stop beating your head against the wall and just take what the opposing defense is willing to give you. Defenses are selling out to stop the run and daring us to beat them through the air. Its time to start making them pay.

Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

Need a Rams type Jimmy game for this week. Solid and no mistakes. I hope thats not asking for too much from him.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

We built the team around YAC. Everyone knows JG ain't putting it down the field like Mahomes.

You never hear anyone say this: teams are daring JG to run and he can't do it cuz he isn't Lamar. Yet it is true.

It's not who JG is. He's not Herbert with the downfield throws or Lamar with the running. If you don't like the roster construction or the lack of downfield throws, talk to the guy who put all this together. No reason why we couldn't have Tua and Hill etc. We chose to build it this way with YAC, short throws, ball out quick, lots of run, etc.

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by dioworld:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It seems like more receiver should be able to get open downfield since most teams know the Niners love the short passing routes. Aiyuk, CMC, Deebo and even Kittle are fast enough to get open. Then we have Rat-Ray who I would like to see a little more of.

Going downfield more takes more time for play to develop though, can our OL hold up for play to develop

There have been a handful of times recently where Jimmy has opted for the checkdown even though the bigger play was available.

That's been mentioned during broadcasts sometimes. I wonder if Jimmy isn't seeing them when they get open of he just doesn't feel comfortable throwing deep. I think his arm is strong enough to make deep throws. The only problem I've seen is his accuracy on the longer throws and the fact that he has to put more air under the ball to get it that far. That gives the DBs more time to recover.

I am not sure what it is because we have seen Jimmy make those throws this season. Like the one to Dwelley and the one to Ray-Ray being the most recent. I know Kyle doesn't seem to care. But for me, if the bigger play is available you take it every time. There is no guarantee you are going to dink and dunk down the field every drive and score TD's. Especially with how poor our run game has been in the redzone this season.

I've been with you on "taking shots" until you said the bolded. No, not every time. If we have a lead and there is a guaranteed first down which will milk another 3 minutes off the clock, you take that rather than risk a 50/50 deep shot for a touchdown. I can't imagine that this isn't said by Kyle repeatedly to Jimmy and every 49ers QB. He is simply a VERY conservative play caller and coach. Rarely goes for it on 4th down. Rarely passes with a lead. I was honestly shocked when he let Jimmy throw that out route to Jennings on 3rd down late in the game, can't even remember the last time that happened.

So yes, I think everyone agrees we can and should take more deep shots. It's a process of the right personnel at WR, timing, OL protection, and QB/coach willingness. Obviously Jimmy has the ability because we've seen it in 2017 and now this year. Deep shots are coach and QB; not sure you can place more "blame" on one or the other.

To me, saying "a bigger play is available" does NOT mean a 50/50 ball. It means there is a play that should be made.

Exactly!

I don't necessarily think Shanahan is a conservative playcaller, per se. With the Falcons in the Super Bowl, he tried passing to score a TD with a fourth quarter lead, but they took a sack and were taken out of field goal range. Rather... with the 49ers personnel the way it's been the past few years, conservative run calls are what he's turned to. Some of it may be to protect Jimmy, but I do think it's also a belief in the 49ers run game as well as the 49ers defense. It served them well in their overall W/L record since we acquired Jimmy, though obviously we know we have two major L's where we can criticize fourth quarter playcalling.

However, that's all in the past. The 2016 Falcons are a different team from the 2017-2021 49ers. And likewise, the 2022 49ers are different from last year's team. I think we're in uncharted territory now for the offense. David Lombardi pointed out recently that the analytics suggest the 49ers are a better passing team than running team. The last few games, we're seeing a change in offensive approach. We've come out passing, and as it was pointed out, we threw on 3rd and 5 to Jennings during a 4 minute offense situation.

I really really wonder if we're now in a time where we... "Let Jimmy Cook."

Saints d are better pass defenders than run defenders but went into the game with a plan to stop our run. They did a great job for the most part. Shanahan trusted Jimmy to throw the ball 37 times against a top 10 pass defense. Jimmy showed some real grit in the game. Should have had 2 TD passes if that one to Jennings was thrown a little further out in front of him. Should have been a holding call and a fresh set of downs on that play also because #55 tackled Deebo in the endzone. There should have been a couple more roughing the passer calls as well.

I think NC is going to get his wish. I think we will be more pass centric the rest of this season. But Jimmy has to take advantage of what defenses are giving us and that doesn't necessarily mean the underneath stuff. If safeties and corners are going to cheat and abandon the deep routes, we need to take advantage of it more often and make them pay. Doing so often enough will open up the underneath routes even more.

If we become more pass centrc we will lose. I do agree we need to push the ball down the field but Jiimmy does not gave the skill set to do so on a consistent basis. We are becoming easier and easier to defend because defenses dont need to honor the long ball or passes outsde the numbers Alot of our offense is generated in and around the line of scrimmage. This is why i believe TL was drafted, to overcome these limitations. Pound the rock and dont put the game Jimmys hands. That was the recipe in 2019 and its why we have been reasonably successful with a limited QB.

The 22nd ranked run defense just held us under 100 yards rushing and 3.3 YPC and dared us to beat them through the air. Kyle trusted Jimmy to pass the ball 37x against a top 10 pass defense. Neither Kyle nor Jimmy have anything to lose this season. I want to see how far those two can push the passing game. If we can really open it up and turn it into a strength it maybe the difference maker come playoff time.

I agree, our run game is diminishing but if you let Jimmy start chucking the ball 40 times all over the yard your asking for trouble. Do you really think we can go into Philly in January with that kinda of gameplan and win? We will probably be on the road for most of the playoffs so you better run the rock and play solid D and ask Jimmy to compliment the offense in the passing game.

We will live and die with our running game and exceptional defense so Kyle better figure it out.

So we should live and DIE by our running game no matter what and not even give the passing game an opportunity to open up? This passing game is different with CMC. The O line is pretty damn solid in pass pro. Jimmy has really cut down on the wtf throws and is playing his best football this season. We have Kittle and a solid group of receivers.

We may have won a lot of games being run heavy but the run game has failed us in some pretty crucial moments and games in the playoffs. Should we completely abandon the run game? No. But at some point you have to stop beating your head against the wall and just take what the opposing defense is willing to give you. Defenses are selling out to stop the run and daring us to beat them through the air. Its time to start making them pay.

Hopefully we will be clapping January.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

You ask a question and then answer it for me.

Right now. I trust Jimmy more than I trust the running game. When defenses start to back out of them 5-6 man fronts than we can think about running the ball heavy again.

As far as the hypothetical question about philly. That hypothetical future is too far away to be worrying about that when we still have 6 real opponents left on our schedule.

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Originally posted by YACBros85:

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Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by dioworld:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It seems like more receiver should be able to get open downfield since most teams know the Niners love the short passing routes. Aiyuk, CMC, Deebo and even Kittle are fast enough to get open. Then we have Rat-Ray who I would like to see a little more of.

Going downfield more takes more time for play to develop though, can our OL hold up for play to develop

There have been a handful of times recently where Jimmy has opted for the checkdown even though the bigger play was available.

That's been mentioned during broadcasts sometimes. I wonder if Jimmy isn't seeing them when they get open of he just doesn't feel comfortable throwing deep. I think his arm is strong enough to make deep throws. The only problem I've seen is his accuracy on the longer throws and the fact that he has to put more air under the ball to get it that far. That gives the DBs more time to recover.

I am not sure what it is because we have seen Jimmy make those throws this season. Like the one to Dwelley and the one to Ray-Ray being the most recent. I know Kyle doesn't seem to care. But for me, if the bigger play is available you take it every time. There is no guarantee you are going to dink and dunk down the field every drive and score TD's. Especially with how poor our run game has been in the redzone this season.

I've been with you on "taking shots" until you said the bolded. No, not every time. If we have a lead and there is a guaranteed first down which will milk another 3 minutes off the clock, you take that rather than risk a 50/50 deep shot for a touchdown. I can't imagine that this isn't said by Kyle repeatedly to Jimmy and every 49ers QB. He is simply a VERY conservative play caller and coach. Rarely goes for it on 4th down. Rarely passes with a lead. I was honestly shocked when he let Jimmy throw that out route to Jennings on 3rd down late in the game, can't even remember the last time that happened.

So yes, I think everyone agrees we can and should take more deep shots. It's a process of the right personnel at WR, timing, OL protection, and QB/coach willingness. Obviously Jimmy has the ability because we've seen it in 2017 and now this year. Deep shots are coach and QB; not sure you can place more "blame" on one or the other.

To me, saying "a bigger play is available" does NOT mean a 50/50 ball. It means there is a play that should be made.

Exactly!

I don't necessarily think Shanahan is a conservative playcaller, per se. With the Falcons in the Super Bowl, he tried passing to score a TD with a fourth quarter lead, but they took a sack and were taken out of field goal range. Rather... with the 49ers personnel the way it's been the past few years, conservative run calls are what he's turned to. Some of it may be to protect Jimmy, but I do think it's also a belief in the 49ers run game as well as the 49ers defense. It served them well in their overall W/L record since we acquired Jimmy, though obviously we know we have two major L's where we can criticize fourth quarter playcalling.

However, that's all in the past. The 2016 Falcons are a different team from the 2017-2021 49ers. And likewise, the 2022 49ers are different from last year's team. I think we're in uncharted territory now for the offense. David Lombardi pointed out recently that the analytics suggest the 49ers are a better passing team than running team. The last few games, we're seeing a change in offensive approach. We've come out passing, and as it was pointed out, we threw on 3rd and 5 to Jennings during a 4 minute offense situation.

I really really wonder if we're now in a time where we... "Let Jimmy Cook."

Saints d are better pass defenders than run defenders but went into the game with a plan to stop our run. They did a great job for the most part. Shanahan trusted Jimmy to throw the ball 37 times against a top 10 pass defense. Jimmy showed some real grit in the game. Should have had 2 TD passes if that one to Jennings was thrown a little further out in front of him. Should have been a holding call and a fresh set of downs on that play also because #55 tackled Deebo in the endzone. There should have been a couple more roughing the passer calls as well.

I think NC is going to get his wish. I think we will be more pass centric the rest of this season. But Jimmy has to take advantage of what defenses are giving us and that doesn't necessarily mean the underneath stuff. If safeties and corners are going to cheat and abandon the deep routes, we need to take advantage of it more often and make them pay. Doing so often enough will open up the underneath routes even more.

If we become more pass centrc we will lose. I do agree we need to push the ball down the field but Jiimmy does not gave the skill set to do so on a consistent basis. We are becoming easier and easier to defend because defenses dont need to honor the long ball or passes outsde the numbers Alot of our offense is generated in and around the line of scrimmage. This is why i believe TL was drafted, to overcome these limitations. Pound the rock and dont put the game Jimmys hands. That was the recipe in 2019 and its why we have been reasonably successful with a limited QB.

The 22nd ranked run defense just held us under 100 yards rushing and 3.3 YPC and dared us to beat them through the air. Kyle trusted Jimmy to pass the ball 37x against a top 10 pass defense. Neither Kyle nor Jimmy have anything to lose this season. I want to see how far those two can push the passing game. If we can really open it up and turn it into a strength it maybe the difference maker come playoff time.

I agree, our run game is diminishing but if you let Jimmy start chucking the ball 40 times all over the yard your asking for trouble. Do you really think we can go into Philly in January with that kinda of gameplan and win? We will probably be on the road for most of the playoffs so you better run the rock and play solid D and ask Jimmy to compliment the offense in the passing game.

We will live and die with our running game and exceptional defense so Kyle better figure it out.

To say our run game is diminishing is understating it. The stats do show that (1) the outside zone run is being very well-defended all over the league, and not surprisingly, our run game has struggled... and (2) The 49ers are actually a more effective offense in passing than in running. In our last 4 games, Jimmy has dropped back to pass 14, 14, 21, and 28 times in the first half and has been extremely efficient. He's missed some throws, but he's doing a great job and hasn't committed a turnover in that span.

No, he's not Patrick Mahomes in arm talent, or Lamar Jackson in playmaking ability... but Jimmy is doing a good job in facilitating and distributing the ball to his playmakers. We haven't been asking him to air it out all over the field. It's been more of the same---slants, crossers, in-breaking routes, screens... and now that CMC is here, dumpoffs to the RB have been good for our offense. If Jimmy continues to keep the turnover rate low, then yeah, we'll be fine with throwing it at a high volume. Even before CMC, he hasn't really had one of the bad turnovers that he's known for.

But yeah, I imagine the Chargers game is a good blueprint. We passed quite a bit to open things up, and that eventually opened things up enough for the Chargers to play the pass, and then we started running it.

I imagine we might start a game pass-heavy, but I'm confident our goal is to run the ball. I think we'll be fine.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

How did Jimmy not capitalize this past game, he's the only one that threw a TD!!!

You guys need to stop with the nonsense.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

How did Jimmy not capitalize this past game, he's the only one that threw a TD!!!

You guys need to stop with the nonsense.

He also crushed it in the Mex City game.. on prior page TD49ers issue was lack of downfield throws so I feel that is what he is referring to I may be wrong tho

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

How did Jimmy not capitalize this past game, he's the only one that threw a TD!!!

You guys need to stop with the nonsense.

Agreed.
Jimmy hasn't been throwing 30 yard darts all over the field, but we haven't asked him to and we haven't needed him to. He's doing exactly what we need him to: Lead the guys in the huddle. Throw the ball accurate enough so that our guys can generate YAC. Have minimal mistakes.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

We built the team around YAC. Everyone knows JG ain't putting it down the field like Mahomes.

You never hear anyone say this: teams are daring JG to run and he can't do it cuz he isn't Lamar. Yet it is true.

It's not who JG is. He's not Herbert with the downfield throws or Lamar with the running. If you don't like the roster construction or the lack of downfield throws, talk to the guy who put all this together. No reason why we couldn't have Tua and Hill etc. We chose to build it this way with YAC, short throws, ball out quick, lots of run, etc.

Thats problem, everybody knows Jimmy isnt putting the ball diwn the field because he limited I thought i was pretty clear on that pount but that what some are implying.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

We built the team around YAC. Everyone knows JG ain't putting it down the field like Mahomes.

You never hear anyone say this: teams are daring JG to run and he can't do it cuz he isn't Lamar. Yet it is true.

It's not who JG is. He's not Herbert with the downfield throws or Lamar with the running. If you don't like the roster construction or the lack of downfield throws, talk to the guy who put all this together. No reason why we couldn't have Tua and Hill etc. We chose to build it this way with YAC, short throws, ball out quick, lots of run, etc.

Thats problem, everybody knows Jimmy isnt putting the ball diwn the field because he limited I thought i was pretty clear on that pount but that what some are implying.

Sir TD, we all know it and get it for many years now it's beating a dead horse imo, he ain't chucking deep sure he isn't Lamar either have any other breaking news reports?

It is okay to be limited TB12 is extremely limited as a runner he's also the GOAT you can be limited and be more than enough to win 7 SBs. Disclaimer not saying JG is TB.. just saying limited is fine lots of HOFers are 'limited'.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Defenses have been daring the 49ers to beat them through the air for awhile and yet Jimmy cannot capitalize. So it comes down to two things, do you trust Jimmy or the running attack.

I will answer the Philly question for you. NO.

You ask a question and then answer it for me.

Right now. I trust Jimmy more than I trust the running game. When defenses start to back out of them 5-6 man fronts than we can think about running the ball heavy again.

As far as the hypothetical question about philly. That hypothetical future is too far away to be worrying about that when we still have 6 real opponents left on our schedule.

Maybe I dont understand the nuiances of defensive strategy but until Jimmy can exploit those down the field gaps in the defense, I am not sure the passing game wiill be able to push the linebackers and safeties out of the box especially when our passing game lives close to the line of scrimmage. and in the middle of the field.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Maybe I dont understand the nuiances of defensive strategy but until Jimmy can exploit those down the field gaps in the defense, I am not sure the passing game wiill be able to push the linebackers and safeties out of the box especially when our passing game lives close to the line of scrimmage. and in the middle of the field.

I wouldn't hold your breath waiting on him to morph into Herbert / Mahomes. He can put it downfield on occasion see the Kittle play vs Arizona. KS prefers the short YAC game tho.