Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Goatie:
He will be back. The organization love him, as does the locker room and he is delivering more than Young and Montana

What does this mean?

JG has won more games as a 49er then both Young and Montana and has a better win/loss ratio.

Joe had 110 wins for the 49ers. Steve had 91. I can't imagine someone being on this board and not being aware of that, so this must be an unfunny trolling attempt.

I think people misinterpreted that image posted a few pages back about each QB's first 59 starts to mean that was all the games that Steve and Joe started for the franchise. That obviously doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny. No one could seriously think that Jimmy, who has only really played about 3 full seasons with us, had the same number of 49er starts as Young and Montana.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
I just can't wrap my head around it as I read,

with Jimmy, oh, "He can avoid that"

with Roach, "He could have done a bit better maybe"

like... what?

how is it Jimmy can totally avoid taking a shot to the knee but the defender taking the shot himself MAYBE can do better? no dude, you have it backward. the defender CAN make the decision to avoid taking that shot, and Jimmy MAYBE can do better in getting the ball out sooner giving the defender a more realistic chance to ease up.

I posted the NFL rules a few pages back,....and also heard the announcer say the shot wasn't really illegal.

Can you give the rule interpretation as to how this hit is against the rules if he's outside of the tackle box?

we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

I was asking you what you think. You see it as a legal hit?

I see where he began his lunge while Jimmy still had the ball in his hands.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

I was asking you what you think. You see it as a legal hit?

I see where he began his lunge while Jimmy still had the ball in his hands.

He was also outside the tackle box. That makes him fair game unless he slides. It was a dangerous play but you can't stop defenders from playing.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

The hit is questionable. Ultimately JG is in control of the ball and can unload whenever he deems necessary to do so. I see it both ways.

Must be nice to be the 15th best QB and not even have to play.

The national media seems to hate Jimmy as much as 49ers fans do.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

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My biggest issue with QB rankings is when the person who creates them seems to have different sets of standards for judging some players as opposed to others. Is it based on his personal feeling as to how good these players are? Is it based on performance to this point? It cant be both, and this rankings list CLEARLY shows that the author is using both.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

I was asking you what you think. You see it as a legal hit?

I see where he began his lunge while Jimmy still had the ball in his hands.

if he was indeed outside the tackle box, then yeah it would by definition count as a legal hit

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

The hit is questionable. Ultimately JG is in control of the ball and can unload whenever he deems necessary to do so. I see it both ways.

he can, for sure. and I also added the offensive line can hold onto their blocks better. it shouldn't have to come down to Jimmy having to rely on unloading the ball in order to avoid a big hit. he has a line to protect him for a reason. but it was the wording of your previous statement on the subject matter that I really took issue with is all

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

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did Tua and Geno really have good games this past week? I'd say that's about right'ish for Jimmy if we're going off 1 week alone. but then again I don't recall how guys like Justin Hiebert and Kirk Cousins played either

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

The hit is questionable. Ultimately JG is in control of the ball and can unload whenever he deems necessary to do so. I see it both ways.

he can, for sure. and I also added the offensive line can hold onto their blocks better. it shouldn't have to come down to Jimmy having to rely on unloading the ball in order to avoid a big hit. he has a line to protect him for a reason. but it was the wording of your previous statement on the subject matter that I really took issue with is all

We can agree to disagree. QB is the point guard ball in his hands. If the OL gets nuked no resistance.. that's on the OL and hopefully JG bails him. I recall a play earlier this year with a totally unblocked Aaron Donald.. who according to the one thread is the GOAT defender lol.. and JG calmly puts the ball away he did great on that one. This play I think the line held as long as they could.. I would encourage JG throw it a beat sooner.. do we know the outcome of this play just curious?

Part of the job description of NFL QB is self preservation.. it is not an easy job! Lot to be considering at all moments.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
we aren't debating whether the hit was legal or not. we're debating whether it's justified or not to place blame on Jimmy for the hit(s) that he and Shanahan deemed as questionable.

The hit is questionable. Ultimately JG is in control of the ball and can unload whenever he deems necessary to do so. I see it both ways.

he can, for sure. and I also added the offensive line can hold onto their blocks better. it shouldn't have to come down to Jimmy having to rely on unloading the ball in order to avoid a big hit. he has a line to protect him for a reason. but it was the wording of your previous statement on the subject matter that I really took issue with is all

If the OL can hold their blocks longer, why don't they? Are you suggesting they only hold them for a set time and then clock out?

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

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What a joke. The only QB in the league that's better than Jimmy is Jimmy a day from now, because he just keeps getting better and better everyday.

Maybe also Mahomes, but it's closer than people think.