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Originally posted by Lott42:
Who says Jimmy wants to stay here in the first place. Nobody seems to consider that angle.

Jimmy is a back-up. We have a QB1.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
If he goes on a playoff run like Flacco and wins a Superbowl mvp, then I see a world where the Niners pay him on pure emotion.

I think you really underestimate how badly the fans want to win a Lombardi here.

The fans don't decide who we sign or re-up tho. Never have.

The 9ers aren't doing anything on pure emotion either, btw. They know Jimmy 100's of times better than anyone here does.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I don't know. It's been 6 years and he is the best qb Shanahan has been able to find by a mile. Still waiting for someone else and I'm not getting any younger.

Are you waiting for a roster that's stacked? Because while u dont yet have your perfect QB,....the talent on the team is sure as heck nothing to complain about (IMO).
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
If he goes on a playoff run like Flacco and wins a Superbowl mvp, then I see a world where the Niners pay him on pure emotion.

I think you really underestimate how badly the fans want to win a Lombardi here.

The fans don't decide who we sign or re-up tho. Never have.

The 9ers aren't doing anything on pure emotion either, btw. They know Jimmy 100's of times better than anyone here does.

They signed Garoppolo after 5 games in 2017 instead of tagging him. Who can honestly say?

Anyway, I didn't want to get into this argument, because like I said, its completely pointless. I have zero faith that Garappolo will produce anything meaningful in the playoffs. That's just what I believe until its proven otherwise.

I just find it funny that people are willing to write off a Superbowl winning Quarterback here regardless of who it is. I mean its like bro. We haven't won anything meaningful in decades.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by Goatie:


Yards per game average

Jimmy G - 241.8

Steve Young - 199.4

Joe Montana - 210.3

Jfc

But but but

Average Yards Per Play

Jimmy G 8.3

Steve Young 8.2

Joe Montana 7.6

Go troll a rugby forum 🤡
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its silly that you don't think so. The 49ers are winning right now and at worst they'll be in the playoffs….AGAIN. In 2019, Jimmy helped the 9ers get to the Super Bowl.

"Helped" is very relative. So did the training staff,..they helped us get to the Super Bowl as well.

But in higher relative terms, he helped us get to the Playoffs,....not the SuperBowl.
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its silly that you don't think so. The 49ers are winning right now and at worst they'll be in the playoffs….AGAIN. In 2019, Jimmy helped the 9ers get to the Super Bowl.

"Helped" is very relative. So did the training staff,..they helped us get to the Super Bowl as well.

But in higher relative terms, he helped us get to the Playoffs,....not the SuperBowl.

Oh please stop with your b******t.

You should take out the 49ers from your screen name it's disrespecting.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
If he goes on a playoff run like Flacco and wins a Superbowl mvp, then I see a world where the Niners pay him on pure emotion.

I think you really underestimate how badly the fans want to win a Lombardi here.

The fans don't decide who we sign or re-up tho. Never have.

The 9ers aren't doing anything on pure emotion either, btw. They know Jimmy 100's of times better than anyone here does.

They signed Garoppolo after 5 games in 2017 instead of tagging him. Who can honestly say?

They didn't draft a QB #3 overall in 2016 though. That is why they signed him then.

Now and then is very different.

Signing him is a Catch-22. KS knows his good traits and his bad traits,...and he decided he's ready to move on.

1) Performing god doesn't erase years of KS's experience with him, does it? If he looks to be performing well, others
should be more impressed than we are and would want him more.

2) If he performs in the way we naturally expect (UP and DOWN,...erratic at times, given the talent), then no plans change then either.

So whether really good or really bad,......or average....the signing doesn't make sense unless Trey's career is coming to an end.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its silly that you don't think so. The 49ers are winning right now and at worst they'll be in the playoffs….AGAIN. In 2019, Jimmy helped the 9ers get to the Super Bowl.

"Helped" is very relative. So did the training staff,..they helped us get to the Super Bowl as well.

But in higher relative terms, he helped us get to the Playoffs,....not the SuperBowl.

Oh please stop with your b******t.

You should take out the 49ers from your screen name it's disrespecting.

This did not in any way answer to the 2 points I made.

1) Everyone "helped"....so you can get away with that I guess in literal terms.

2) In "practical" terms,...his playoff contributions in 2019 were abysmal.

Does the name "49er" in my handle mean I cant call things as I saw them on the TV screen?
[ Edited by random49er on Dec 2, 2022 at 10:51 AM ]
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Its silly that you don't think so. The 49ers are winning right now and at worst they'll be in the playoffs….AGAIN. In 2019, Jimmy helped the 9ers get to the Super Bowl.

"Helped" is very relative. So did the training staff,..they helped us get to the Super Bowl as well.

But in higher relative terms, he helped us get to the Playoffs,....not the SuperBowl.

Oh please stop with your b******t.

You should take out the 49ers from your screen name it's disrespecting.

This did not in any way answer to the 2 points I made.

1) Everyone "helped"....so you can get away with that I guess in literal terms.

2) In "practical" terms,...his playoff contributions in 2019 were abysmal.

Does the name "49ers" in my handle mean I cant call things as I saw them on the TV screen?

Well you're just not calling things how you see it that's the problem.

1. Yes everyone helped, I didn't say no one else did. But you act like he didn't there's your problem.

2. His playoff contributions are what they were in 2019 and 2021. Run game, Deebo in the back field and the defense were just all firing on all cylinders. And to say he didn't do s**t is again not calling it how you see it and false no matter how you slice it.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's way more important to know HOW Jimmy plays in the Super Bowl and playoffs than IF he makes the Super Bowl or a deep playoff run.

When Trey got hurt, some posters were already saying we should keep Jimmy beyond this season. I said that it's only fair to keep an open mind about his return if there's a huge leap in his performance. Because it was possible to me that Jimmy could prove he should return when the team doesn't even make the playoffs.

I haven't seen that consistent level of play yet, but we still have a lot of games left.

Absolutely. If he plays elite and they win the SB it's one conversation. If it's the Packer game last playoffs and they win the SB on a heroic defensive effort it's a completely different one.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's way more important to know HOW Jimmy plays in the Super Bowl and playoffs than IF he makes the Super Bowl or a deep playoff run.

When Trey got hurt, some posters were already saying we should keep Jimmy beyond this season. I said that it's only fair to keep an open mind about his return if there's a huge leap in his performance. Because it was possible to me that Jimmy could prove he should return when the team doesn't even make the playoffs.

I haven't seen that consistent level of play yet, but we still have a lot of games left.

Absolutely. If he plays elite and they win the SB it's one conversation. If it's the Packer game last playoffs and they win the SB on a heroic defensive effort it's a completely different one.

That's why I emphasized that he needs to put up big numbers in the playoffs for it to be a conversation.

If we just win because of run game, defense and luck. And some flukey special teams play, then forget about it. I know luck is a factor in football games, but if that's the major reason we win, then it's not sustainable over the long haul.
[ Edited by Ensatsu on Dec 2, 2022 at 11:01 AM ]
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's way more important to know HOW Jimmy plays in the Super Bowl and playoffs than IF he makes the Super Bowl or a deep playoff run.

When Trey got hurt, some posters were already saying we should keep Jimmy beyond this season. I said that it's only fair to keep an open mind about his return if there's a huge leap in his performance. Because it was possible to me that Jimmy could prove he should return when the team doesn't even make the playoffs.

I haven't seen that consistent level of play yet, but we still have a lot of games left.

Absolutely. If he plays elite and they win the SB it's one conversation. If it's the Packer game last playoffs and they win the SB on a heroic defensive effort it's a completely different one.

That's why I emphasized that he needs to put up big numbers in the playoffs for it to be a conversation.

If we just win because of run game, defense and luck. And some flukey special teams play, then forget about it. I know luck is a factor in football games, but if that's the major reason we win, then it's not sustainable over the long haul.

But that's exactly what's been debated in this thread since 2019. Some will point to his record as all the proof needed to keep him around, while others point to the rest of the team being as, if not more responsible for that record. For me, even if he puts up stellar numbers, I've seen him long enough to know exactly what he brings as a QB.
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
It's way more important to know HOW Jimmy plays in the Super Bowl and playoffs than IF he makes the Super Bowl or a deep playoff run.

When Trey got hurt, some posters were already saying we should keep Jimmy beyond this season. I said that it's only fair to keep an open mind about his return if there's a huge leap in his performance. Because it was possible to me that Jimmy could prove he should return when the team doesn't even make the playoffs.

I haven't seen that consistent level of play yet, but we still have a lot of games left.

Absolutely. If he plays elite and they win the SB it's one conversation. If it's the Packer game last playoffs and they win the SB on a heroic defensive effort it's a completely different one.

That's why I emphasized that he needs to put up big numbers in the playoffs for it to be a conversation.

If we just win because of run game, defense and luck. And some flukey special teams play, then forget about it. I know luck is a factor in football games, but if that's the major reason we win, then it's not sustainable over the long haul
He doesn't need to put up big numbers, just keep the offense in rhythm. And most of all don't be the weak link, let something else take that role
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 2, 2022 at 11:09 AM ]
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I don't know. It's been 6 years and he is the best qb Shanahan has been able to find by a mile. Still waiting for someone else and I'm not getting any younger.

Are you waiting for a roster that's stacked? Because while u dont yet have your perfect QB,....the talent on the team is sure as heck nothing to complain about (IMO).

All I'm waiting for is a superbowl victory. That's all we should be wanting. Not a stat machine.
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