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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Imagine fans giving all the credit to jimmy on how the #1 defense is playing because of one or two 3rd downs converted lol

I don't think anyone is giving 'all' the credit. QB is a very important position. The record with good QB play and not good QB play under Shanny speaks for itself. With Purdy as QB2 we are having a Rams type season right now. Lost year. We needed JG to enjoy this season.

Yeah. Without JG, we are most likely looking at another losing season under Shanny.

Regardless of what some of us think of Jimmy, without him, this season could and would have been a disaster.

Agreed.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Imagine fans giving all the credit to jimmy on how the #1 defense is playing because of one or two 3rd downs converted lol

I don't think anyone is giving 'all' the credit. QB is a very important position. The record with good QB play and not good QB play under Shanny speaks for itself. With Purdy as QB2 we are having a Rams type season right now. Lost year. We needed JG to enjoy this season.

NO ONE is giving Jimmy all of the credit. There are simply fans who see that his contribution has been extremely positive and he HELPS us win games. He HELPS the defense play better by converting third downs and keeping the defense off the field and fresh. He's a great teammate and leader, and his teammates love him.

The "criticism" is nitpicky b******t in my opinion. And the comparisons to other QB's is asinine as we have no chance at having or getting those QB's right now.

Some of us want to enjoy and appreciate each season and our team/QB. Others want to tear it down and be negative. Is what it is, but I'll never understand the constant negativity surrounding a player who contributes so much to the team and fans.
Same can be said on the opposite side, like this very topic

you couldn't take a defense compliment without making it out about jimmy is the reason why the defense is shutting teams out in the second half. The very last game proves your point about 3rd downs incorrect

You weren't just "complementing the defense." You were giving the defense ALL of the credit for our recent wins. In the Jimmy thread. Then accused me of giving all the credit to Jimmy when I merely said he helped the defense lol.

The straw man arguments spewed by the Jimmy detractors are pathetic at this point.
The defense shutting out offenses should get all the credit lol

and for the record I didn't accuse you, you said it yourself

I said Jimmy helped the defense. Do you know what "help" means?

The fact that you don't grasp how the offense helps the defense (and vice versa) is wild. You know for a "coach" and "former player" and all.
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.
Originally posted by Furlow:
NO ONE is giving Jimmy all of the credit. There are simply fans who see that his contribution has been extremely positive and he HELPS us win games. He HELPS the defense play better by converting third downs and keeping the defense off the field and fresh. He's a great teammate and leader, and his teammates love him.

The "criticism" is nitpicky b******t in my opinion. And the comparisons to other QB's is asinine as we have no chance at having or getting those QB's right now.

Some of us want to enjoy and appreciate each season and our team/QB. Others want to tear it down and be negative. Is what it is, but I'll never understand the constant negativity surrounding a player who contributes so much to the team and fans.

This - good post.
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.

It's an absolute ridiculous statement. Anyone saying that simply has no knowledge of how football works. It doesn't add to the discussion in any way, shape or form. So it's not a matter of "disagreeing." Those are s**t posts as much as "Jimmy is better than Montana and Young."
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

"Jimmy is better than Montana and Young" is said even less than "Jimmy sucks. Yet some of you were very triggered by that and discussion around those posts has continued for days.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably been the worst playoff QB of all time, but that still shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).
[ Edited by 49ersRing on Dec 3, 2022 at 12:17 PM ]
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
NO ONE is giving Jimmy all of the credit. There are simply fans who see that his contribution has been extremely positive and he HELPS us win games. He HELPS the defense play better by converting third downs and keeping the defense off the field and fresh. He's a great teammate and leader, and his teammates love him.

The "criticism" is nitpicky b******t in my opinion. And the comparisons to other QB's is asinine as we have no chance at having or getting those QB's right now.

Some of us want to enjoy and appreciate each season and our team/QB. Others want to tear it down and be negative. Is what it is, but I'll never understand the constant negativity surrounding a player who contributes so much to the team and fans.

This - good post.

That's because you're an old school cat like me.
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Furlow:
NO ONE is giving Jimmy all of the credit. There are simply fans who see that his contribution has been extremely positive and he HELPS us win games. He HELPS the defense play better by converting third downs and keeping the defense off the field and fresh. He's a great teammate and leader, and his teammates love him.

The "criticism" is nitpicky b******t in my opinion. And the comparisons to other QB's is asinine as we have no chance at having or getting those QB's right now.

Some of us want to enjoy and appreciate each season and our team/QB. Others want to tear it down and be negative. Is what it is, but I'll never understand the constant negativity surrounding a player who contributes so much to the team and fans.

This - good post.

That's because you're an old school cat like me.

100%
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

Well that alone has to violate several rules in here.
Originally posted by Furlow:
NO ONE is giving Jimmy all of the credit. There are simply fans who see that his contribution has been extremely positive and he HELPS us win games. He HELPS the defense play better by converting third downs and keeping the defense off the field and fresh. He's a great teammate and leader, and his teammates love him.

The "criticism" is nitpicky b******t in my opinion. And the comparisons to other QB's is asinine as we have no chance at having or getting those QB's right now.

Some of us want to enjoy and appreciate each season and our team/QB. Others want to tear it down and be negative. Is what it is, but I'll never understand the constant negativity surrounding a player who contributes so much to the team and fans.

Shouldn't that be your take for all players and coaches in there threads though?
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Dec 3, 2022 at 12:13 PM ]
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