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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Some people can't handle the truth and some people have toxic egos 🤣
Jimmy is 65/100 most of the time, that's why he never made a probowl and choked in the SB and NFCC last season and no team wanted to give up a 2nd round pick for him. Will he choke in the playoffs in a few weeks when the team gets behind late? We will see..

You dont get many chances like this in the NFL, lucky Jimmy might finally run out of luck or get luck out for another SB ring 🤣

Perfect example. Why on earth is this allowed in this forum? Contributes absolutely nothing and only serves to troll and incite. But since he didn't directly attack anyone it's "okay?"

Very strange set of rules.

What? It's allowed because it doesn't break any rules I guess. You think posts that you don't agree with just shouldn't be allowed?

I said it's a strange set of rules. There is nothing to "agree with" with his posts because it's just mindless negative babbling.


You can't honestly be comparing my posts to Chilin. Lol ridiculous. You can disagree with me, fine. But I at least engage in conversation. Chillin is trolling 24/7.

I've read what you have to say in the Lance thread and could easily say the same about you. I still feel that your posts should be allowed, though.

Dude I literally got a 30 day timeout for DEFENDING Trey too harshly. You don't know what you're talking about or are only looking at certain posts. Just keep reading Chillin's posts, you'll see.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

"Jimmy is better than Montana and Young" is said even less than "Jimmy sucks. Yet some of you were very triggered by that and discussion around those posts has continued for days.
I see that more often than the he sucks statement

im not triggered by that, I'm triggered that you have to and keep saying that all you read is people saying he sucks when it's not true lol

One person (Goatie) has ever said Jimmy is better than Montana and Young. One. But you've heard that more times than Jimmy sucks (which has been said for years by multiple people)?

This is why you can't be taken seriously.

Not to mention, I listed many other illogical, silly statements about Jimmy that are said constantly. Yet you latch onto only one and derail the conversation. Par for the course with you.
Keep lying to yourself lol

About what? Who else said Jimmy is better than Montana or Young?

I never said that. Stop being a strawman

You've been a good poster over the years, but your recent troll job was crap. Do better.

LOL I just posted some stats. One was a stat of a win/loss percentage between the three at the same point of time in their careers. That stat was published by someone a few days before and I added an a opinion that JG was producing more. Not my fault people misinterpret that and the raw stats that followed. But I never ever said JG was better than Steve and Joe, You have to stop getting your knickers in a knot my man.

Posting those stats is an insinuation that Jimmy is better even though we all know he isn't . Otherwise, why even post the stats. They're meaningless.

Here's a good JG stat. He hasn't thrown an INT in 4 weeks. All wins. That's meaningful. That's the longest stretch of his career. Let's hope he keeps it going.

Well I beg to differ about them being meaningless. At the same point in their careers JG has a similar winning percentage. That says a lot. In 2019 he managed to get the 3rd highest yardage in franchise history. That is meaningful.

The point of the other stats is to show that he is no slouch when compared to other great players in the past.

Sure he had weak areas in his game. But he is still a developing QB who has not reached his potential yet. His shoulder surgery and the new QB coach have kept his development going spurred on by his competitive nature.

The stats I posted are indicative of that and not as you assert meaningless. It is hardly my fault people get triggered by stats that are posted. It is not like I made the stats up. But people here post stats all the time to make out an argument. In a sense aren't they all meaningless because they only tell part of a story because they are all selectively posted?

They're meaningless because you're comparing numbers with players that played 30-40 years ago in an entirely different era. Rules have change dramatically to help the offense. One hundred catches used to be rare. Now it happens all the time. Completion percentages are higher now because of the use of the tacky gloves. Those things are nearly like Velcro. QBs can stand in the pocket without having to worry about getting freight trained. Defenders can go across the middle without getting knocked off their routes. There are too many differences in the game today to make any real comparison to football in the 80s.

Comparing Jimmy to current players is valid to a point but even then you have to consider the talent around them and the teams they face. It's not black and white.

Not sure why he's doubling down on this stance. I thought he was clearly being over the top in his praise of Jimmy to show how ridiculous the over the top negativity is. Perhaps he's actually serious about Jimmy contributing more towards wins and/or having better stats. That's just insanity. Joe and Steve were league MVP's and clearly among the top 2-3 QB's in the league every year. And won Super Bowls. Jimmy isn't anywhere near that.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

"Jimmy is better than Montana and Young" is said even less than "Jimmy sucks. Yet some of you were very triggered by that and discussion around those posts has continued for days.
I see that more often than the he sucks statement

im not triggered by that, I'm triggered that you have to and keep saying that all you read is people saying he sucks when it's not true lol

One person (Goatie) has ever said Jimmy is better than Montana and Young. One. But you've heard that more times than Jimmy sucks (which has been said for years by multiple people)?

This is why you can't be taken seriously.

Not to mention, I listed many other illogical, silly statements about Jimmy that are said constantly. Yet you latch onto only one and derail the conversation. Par for the course with you.
Keep lying to yourself lol

About what? Who else said Jimmy is better than Montana or Young?

I never said that. Stop being a strawman

You've been a good poster over the years, but your recent troll job was crap. Do better.

LOL I just posted some stats. One was a stat of a win/loss percentage between the three at the same point of time in their careers. That stat was published by someone a few days before and I added an a opinion that JG was producing more. Not my fault people misinterpret that and the raw stats that followed. But I never ever said JG was better than Steve and Joe, You have to stop getting your knickers in a knot my man.

Posting those stats is an insinuation that Jimmy is better even though we all know he isn't . Otherwise, why even post the stats. They're meaningless.

Here's a good JG stat. He hasn't thrown an INT in 4 weeks. All wins. That's meaningful. That's the longest stretch of his career. Let's hope he keeps it going.

Well I beg to differ about them being meaningless. At the same point in their careers JG has a similar winning percentage. That says a lot. In 2019 he managed to get the 3rd highest yardage in franchise history. That is meaningful.

The point of the other stats is to show that he is no slouch when compared to other great players in the past.

Sure he had weak areas in his game. But he is still a developing QB who has not reached his potential yet. His shoulder surgery and the new QB coach have kept his development going spurred on by his competitive nature.

The stats I posted are indicative of that and not as you assert meaningless. It is hardly my fault people get triggered by stats that are posted. It is not like I made the stats up. But people here post stats all the time to make out an argument. In a sense aren't they all meaningless because they only tell part of a story because they are all selectively posted?

They're meaningless because you're comparing numbers with players that played 30-40 years ago in an entirely different era. Rules have change dramatically to help the offense. One hundred catches used to be rare. Now it happens all the time. Completion percentages are higher now because of the use of the tacky gloves. Those things are nearly like Velcro. QBs can stand in the pocket without having to worry about getting freight trained. Defenders can go across the middle without getting knocked off their routes. There are too many differences in the game today to make any real comparison to football in the 80s.

Comparing Jimmy to current players is valid to a point but even then you have to consider the talent around them and the teams they face. It's not black and white.

So you agree that all statistical arguments are meaningless because they are all selective and really never compare exactly the same things?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Some people can't handle the truth and some people have toxic egos 🤣
Jimmy is 65/100 most of the time, that's why he never made a probowl and choked in the SB and NFCC last season and no team wanted to give up a 2nd round pick for him. Will he choke in the playoffs in a few weeks when the team gets behind late? We will see..

You dont get many chances like this in the NFL, lucky Jimmy might finally run out of luck or get luck out for another SB ring 🤣

Perfect example. Why on earth is this allowed in this forum? Contributes absolutely nothing and only serves to troll and incite. But since he didn't directly attack anyone it's "okay?"

Very strange set of rules.

What? It's allowed because it doesn't break any rules I guess. You think posts that you don't agree with just shouldn't be allowed?

I said it's a strange set of rules. There is nothing to "agree with" with his posts because it's just mindless negative babbling.


You can't honestly be comparing my posts to Chilin. Lol ridiculous. You can disagree with me, fine. But I at least engage in conversation. Chillin is trolling 24/7.

I've read what you have to say in the Lance thread and could easily say the same about you. I still feel that your posts should be allowed, though.

Dude I literally got a 30 day timeout for DEFENDING Trey too harshly. You don't know what you're talking about or are only looking at certain posts. Just keep reading Chillin's posts, you'll see.

I seriously doubt you got a timeout for defending Trey. As absurd as you find the forum rules, that doesn't break any.
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

"Jimmy is better than Montana and Young" is said even less than "Jimmy sucks. Yet some of you were very triggered by that and discussion around those posts has continued for days.
I see that more often than the he sucks statement

im not triggered by that, I'm triggered that you have to and keep saying that all you read is people saying he sucks when it's not true lol

One person (Goatie) has ever said Jimmy is better than Montana and Young. One. But you've heard that more times than Jimmy sucks (which has been said for years by multiple people)?

This is why you can't be taken seriously.

Not to mention, I listed many other illogical, silly statements about Jimmy that are said constantly. Yet you latch onto only one and derail the conversation. Par for the course with you.
Keep lying to yourself lol

About what? Who else said Jimmy is better than Montana or Young?

I never said that. Stop being a strawman

You've been a good poster over the years, but your recent troll job was crap. Do better.

LOL I just posted some stats. One was a stat of a win/loss percentage between the three at the same point of time in their careers. That stat was published by someone a few days before and I added an a opinion that JG was producing more. Not my fault people misinterpret that and the raw stats that followed. But I never ever said JG was better than Steve and Joe, You have to stop getting your knickers in a knot my man.

Posting those stats is an insinuation that Jimmy is better even though we all know he isn't . Otherwise, why even post the stats. They're meaningless.

Here's a good JG stat. He hasn't thrown an INT in 4 weeks. All wins. That's meaningful. That's the longest stretch of his career. Let's hope he keeps it going.

Well I beg to differ about them being meaningless. At the same point in their careers JG has a similar winning percentage. That says a lot. In 2019 he managed to get the 3rd highest yardage in franchise history. That is meaningful.

The point of the other stats is to show that he is no slouch when compared to other great players in the past.

Sure he had weak areas in his game. But he is still a developing QB who has not reached his potential yet. His shoulder surgery and the new QB coach have kept his development going spurred on by his competitive nature.

The stats I posted are indicative of that and not as you assert meaningless. It is hardly my fault people get triggered by stats that are posted. It is not like I made the stats up. But people here post stats all the time to make out an argument. In a sense aren't they all meaningless because they only tell part of a story because they are all selectively posted?

They're meaningless because you're comparing numbers with players that played 30-40 years ago in an entirely different era. Rules have change dramatically to help the offense. One hundred catches used to be rare. Now it happens all the time. Completion percentages are higher now because of the use of the tacky gloves. Those things are nearly like Velcro. QBs can stand in the pocket without having to worry about getting freight trained. Defenders can go across the middle without getting knocked off their routes. There are too many differences in the game today to make any real comparison to football in the 80s.

Comparing Jimmy to current players is valid to a point but even then you have to consider the talent around them and the teams they face. It's not black and white.

So you agree that all statistical arguments are meaningless because they are all selective and really never compare exactly the same things?

Statistical arguments from completely separate eras that lack any context, yes. Doesn't mean ALL statistical arguments are meaningless.
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Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:
Some people can't handle the truth and some people have toxic egos 🤣
Jimmy is 65/100 most of the time, that's why he never made a probowl and choked in the SB and NFCC last season and no team wanted to give up a 2nd round pick for him. Will he choke in the playoffs in a few weeks when the team gets behind late? We will see..

You dont get many chances like this in the NFL, lucky Jimmy might finally run out of luck or get luck out for another SB ring 🤣

Perfect example. Why on earth is this allowed in this forum? Contributes absolutely nothing and only serves to troll and incite. But since he didn't directly attack anyone it's "okay?"

Very strange set of rules.

What? It's allowed because it doesn't break any rules I guess. You think posts that you don't agree with just shouldn't be allowed?

I said it's a strange set of rules. There is nothing to "agree with" with his posts because it's just mindless negative babbling.


You can't honestly be comparing my posts to Chilin. Lol ridiculous. You can disagree with me, fine. But I at least engage in conversation. Chillin is trolling 24/7.

I've read what you have to say in the Lance thread and could easily say the same about you. I still feel that your posts should be allowed, though.

Dude I literally got a 30 day timeout for DEFENDING Trey too harshly. You don't know what you're talking about or are only looking at certain posts. Just keep reading Chillin's posts, you'll see.

I seriously doubt you got a timeout for defending Trey. As absurd as you find the forum rules, that doesn't break any.

Nvm
[ Edited by Furlow on Dec 3, 2022 at 3:25 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

I never hated on Trey like you hate on Jimmy. Ever. I brought up a discussion about his wobbly ball (fact) and wondered if it would affect his accuracy. Someone found a great link from sports science that some wobble is good, and it turned out to not affect his throwing. Even against Chicago where it was raining. I ate my crow about it. Some still cling to my original comments about it and make it out to be something it never was. I actually got a 30 day timeout from the forum for defending Trey too harshly. So the notion that I hate Trey is ridiculous and inaccurate.

You on the other hand have become a cartoon character in this thread, pretending to be a Jimmy fan just to troll and incite. You contribute nothing and should be banned along with Goatie and others who are merely trying to get under people's skin.

You've never hated on Trey like I hate on Jimmy? Really? Maybe that's because I "hate" on Jimmy by praising him and saying he's playing like a top 10 QB this year. I've been critical of Jimmy when he's messed up, but I've also praised him when he's done good things and I've said repeatedly that I appreciate him. I don't know why you insist on painting everything to be so black and white. You've pre-determined that I'm a Jimmy hater, so now that I've praised him, I must be "trolling", which makes no sense.

You're also misrepresenting how much you hammered on the wobble thing. Not a single clip of Trey could get posted during TC without you and others bringing up the wobble. If there was one pass in 10 that showed any slight wobble, it would be brought up. And you probably didn't get a timeout for defending Trey, you probably got a timeout for how you went about it. Which, if the Jimmy thread is any indication, you probably took things to extreme and attacked posters.
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

I never hated on Trey like you hate on Jimmy. Ever. I brought up a discussion about his wobbly ball (fact) and wondered if it would affect his accuracy. Someone found a great link from sports science that some wobble is good, and it turned out to not affect his throwing. Even against Chicago where it was raining. I ate my crow about it. Some still cling to my original comments about it and make it out to be something it never was. I actually got a 30 day timeout from the forum for defending Trey too harshly. So the notion that I hate Trey is ridiculous and inaccurate.

You on the other hand have become a cartoon character in this thread, pretending to be a Jimmy fan just to troll and incite. You contribute nothing and should be banned along with Goatie and others who are merely trying to get under people's skin.

You've never hated on Trey like I hate on Jimmy? Really? Maybe that's because I "hate" on Jimmy by praising him and saying he's playing like a top 10 QB this year. I've been critical of Jimmy when he's messed up, but I've also praised him when he's done good things and I've said repeatedly that I appreciate him. I don't know why you insist on painting everything to be so black and white. You've pre-determined that I'm a Jimmy hater, so now that I've praised him, I must be "trolling", which makes no sense.

You're also misrepresenting how much you hammered on the wobble thing. Not a single clip of Trey could get posted during TC without you and others bringing up the wobble. If there was one pass in 10 that showed any slight wobble, it would be brought up. And you probably didn't get a timeout for defending Trey, you probably got a timeout for how you went about it. Which, if the Jimmy thread is any indication, you probably took things to extreme and attacked posters.

"Not a single clip" lol.



Edit: Even Random knows you're trolling, and he's Jimmy's biggest detractor.
[ Edited by Furlow on Dec 3, 2022 at 4:14 PM ]
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

I never hated on Trey like you hate on Jimmy. Ever. I brought up a discussion about his wobbly ball (fact) and wondered if it would affect his accuracy. Someone found a great link from sports science that some wobble is good, and it turned out to not affect his throwing. Even against Chicago where it was raining. I ate my crow about it. Some still cling to my original comments about it and make it out to be something it never was. I actually got a 30 day timeout from the forum for defending Trey too harshly. So the notion that I hate Trey is ridiculous and inaccurate.

You on the other hand have become a cartoon character in this thread, pretending to be a Jimmy fan just to troll and incite. You contribute nothing and should be banned along with Goatie and others who are merely trying to get under people's skin.

You've never hated on Trey like I hate on Jimmy? Really? Maybe that's because I "hate" on Jimmy by praising him and saying he's playing like a top 10 QB this year. I've been critical of Jimmy when he's messed up, but I've also praised him when he's done good things and I've said repeatedly that I appreciate him. I don't know why you insist on painting everything to be so black and white. You've pre-determined that I'm a Jimmy hater, so now that I've praised him, I must be "trolling", which makes no sense.

You're also misrepresenting how much you hammered on the wobble thing. Not a single clip of Trey could get posted during TC without you and others bringing up the wobble. If there was one pass in 10 that showed any slight wobble, it would be brought up. And you probably didn't get a timeout for defending Trey, you probably got a timeout for how you went about it. Which, if the Jimmy thread is any indication, you probably took things to extreme and attacked posters.

"Not a single clip" lol.



Edit: Even Random knows you're trolling, and he's Jimmy's biggest detractor.

Random's stats are meaningless
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

I never hated on Trey like you hate on Jimmy. Ever. I brought up a discussion about his wobbly ball (fact) and wondered if it would affect his accuracy. Someone found a great link from sports science that some wobble is good, and it turned out to not affect his throwing. Even against Chicago where it was raining. I ate my crow about it. Some still cling to my original comments about it and make it out to be something it never was. I actually got a 30 day timeout from the forum for defending Trey too harshly. So the notion that I hate Trey is ridiculous and inaccurate.

You on the other hand have become a cartoon character in this thread, pretending to be a Jimmy fan just to troll and incite. You contribute nothing and should be banned along with Goatie and others who are merely trying to get under people's skin.

You've never hated on Trey like I hate on Jimmy? Really? Maybe that's because I "hate" on Jimmy by praising him and saying he's playing like a top 10 QB this year. I've been critical of Jimmy when he's messed up, but I've also praised him when he's done good things and I've said repeatedly that I appreciate him. I don't know why you insist on painting everything to be so black and white. You've pre-determined that I'm a Jimmy hater, so now that I've praised him, I must be "trolling", which makes no sense.

You're also misrepresenting how much you hammered on the wobble thing. Not a single clip of Trey could get posted during TC without you and others bringing up the wobble. If there was one pass in 10 that showed any slight wobble, it would be brought up. And you probably didn't get a timeout for defending Trey, you probably got a timeout for how you went about it. Which, if the Jimmy thread is any indication, you probably took things to extreme and attacked posters.

"Not a single clip" lol.



Edit: Even Random knows you're trolling, and he's Jimmy's biggest detractor.

Random's stats are meaningless

Lol indeed.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
How soon we forget the dimes that saved our season.. he's saving our season back to back years now..

I dont think anyone is negating the fact that Jimmys ability is throwing dimes.

Agreed with both. Jimmy's dimes are saving our season for the 2nd year in a row. Lucky to have him as our QB.

Reading this re posted, you edited my post. Pretty slimy.


Got to love the Fan Club. Anything to push the Jimmy is the great of all time narrative while stepping on heros like Montana and Young. True 49er fan

.

Yes because the only options are criticize him for every little thing or say he's the GOAT smh. Maybe just accept that he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good and we can absolutely win the Super Bowl with him?

Call me crazy but sports and rooting for a team is supposed to be fun and entertain us as fans. There is obviously also an emotional component that is fueled by the effort and personalities of the players and team. Jimmy's physical attributes and decision making can be criticized for sure, but to minimize his contribution to the team and fans as only that is shallow and short sighted. Many of you have missed out on some amazing moments during this run because you're obsessed with having a certain "blueprint" at QB and think that if we don't win the Super Bowl that the season was a "failure." Neither life nor sports are that binary. Y'all do you, but I'll keep seeing my glass as half full.

Did you know you can be critical and supportive at the same time. When you call Jimmy the GOAT that is offensive to the 49ers alums that have come before him and it removes any creditability you may have had. We all as 49ers fans should cheer for him and enjoy the ride. I will be ecstatic if we win a SB with Jimmy. I dont care about next year at this point but you never show any ability to be critcal, the over the top support is obnoxious. Yes, I probably could take the edge off my point of view but your ridiculous views make it hard thus fueling the constant barbs. Jimmy should get some credit fior the teams success, he is our QB and he has made some plays but again Jimmy does everything point of view makes it harder to acknowledge.

I never called Jimmy the goat, that was Goatie and he said he needed a 30 day timeout for his comments. He's as bad as Chillin with his nonstop bashing that none of the Jimmy detractors never call out (except SWH).

Honestly no clue who you're referring to because I have no problem critiquing aspects of Jimmy's play. The missed TD to Aiyuk against Arizona is one that comes to mind. High passes on some screens that put our WR's in harm's way are another. Also think he needs to push back against Shanny more and make certain decisions on his own. But most "criticism" in here is outlandish and over the top. Totally unnecessary and does not facilitate rational conversation at all.

And thats the deal. Both sides of the Jimmy spectrum have gone to the extreme at times thus creating an illogical discussion. Its hard to listen when the points of view can be over the top. I will say it again, I hope really hope Jimmy plays well the rest of the season and wins it all. At that point we can then debate the path forward between him and TL. Lets just stop with Jim just wins (implying he does everything) , GOAT and as good as Allen/ Mahomes BS.

I don't control who's allowed to post in here. If mods would get rid of the extremes like "Jimmy is better than Montana" and "Jimmy sucks is average and gets carried" we could have some great discussions in here.

This is where part of the problem is though. Just because someone says Jimmy is average and gets carried by the team, you automatically read that as them saying he sucks.
He has to add sucks to the statement, when it's hardly said here.

Some people want to view everything as binary. They see it as either you're pro-Jimmy or you're anti-Jimmy (hater), but it's obviously much more nuanced than that. I'm decidedly pro-Jimmy in that I've always thought he's been a great guy and is playing like at least a top-10 QB this year, but a lot of the criticisms about him in the past have been entirely valid. Even as one of his biggest fans, I can acknowledge that he's arguably the worst playoff QB of all time, but that shouldn't stop people from appreciating the good things he's done here. We would definitely be worse off right now if he hadn't re-signed here as Trey's backup (assuming Trey's injury wasn't a plot orchestrated by Jimmy loyalists within the building and still would have happened if Jimmy hadn't re-signed).

You're among the most egregious offenders and have admittedly trolled this thread for years.

You have more posts accusing me of being a Jimmy hater than I have posts criticizing Jimmy. If you want to see what a hater really looks like, go read your own posts in the Trey thread during training camp.

Despite what you've repeatedly argued in this thread and elsewhere, being a fan of Trey does not make one a Jimmy hater. I'm rooting for both QBs and want both to succeed.

I never hated on Trey like you hate on Jimmy. Ever. I brought up a discussion about his wobbly ball (fact) and wondered if it would affect his accuracy. Someone found a great link from sports science that some wobble is good, and it turned out to not affect his throwing. Even against Chicago where it was raining. I ate my crow about it. Some still cling to my original comments about it and make it out to be something it never was. I actually got a 30 day timeout from the forum for defending Trey too harshly. So the notion that I hate Trey is ridiculous and inaccurate.

You on the other hand have become a cartoon character in this thread, pretending to be a Jimmy fan just to troll and incite. You contribute nothing and should be banned along with Goatie and others who are merely trying to get under people's skin.

You've never hated on Trey like I hate on Jimmy? Really? Maybe that's because I "hate" on Jimmy by praising him and saying he's playing like a top 10 QB this year. I've been critical of Jimmy when he's messed up, but I've also praised him when he's done good things and I've said repeatedly that I appreciate him. I don't know why you insist on painting everything to be so black and white. You've pre-determined that I'm a Jimmy hater, so now that I've praised him, I must be "trolling", which makes no sense.

You're also misrepresenting how much you hammered on the wobble thing. Not a single clip of Trey could get posted during TC without you and others bringing up the wobble. If there was one pass in 10 that showed any slight wobble, it would be brought up. And you probably didn't get a timeout for defending Trey, you probably got a timeout for how you went about it. Which, if the Jimmy thread is any indication, you probably took things to extreme and attacked posters.

"Not a single clip" lol.



Edit: Even Random knows you're trolling, and he's Jimmy's biggest detractor.

Random's stats are meaningless

Lol indeed.

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Let's chill with the negative Jimmy comments. Furlow needs a break from protecting Jimmy all day, it's a Saturday after all, let him go enjoy the rest of his day.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Let's chill with the negative Jimmy comments. Furlow needs a break from protecting Jimmy all day, it's a Saturday after all, let him go enjoy the rest of his day.
If only he put that energy into being a 49er fan
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Let's chill with the negative Jimmy comments. Furlow needs a break from protecting Jimmy all day, it's a Saturday after all, let him go enjoy the rest of his day.
If only he put that energy into being a 49er fan

Wouldn't defending the Niners QB be something a fan would do?

jimmy g is the best
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