Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Florio: if Jimmy is healthy you don't play him even though he gives you the best shot because you don't want 2023 QB drama. 🤣

Jimmy GONE !!

Trey DONE !!!

Let's focus on B-Rock aka E The Pizza Boy !!!

Originally posted by Youngone:
Florio: if Jimmy is healthy you don't play him even though he gives you the best shot because you don't want 2023 QB drama. 🤣

I agree that they shouldn't play him as long as Brock is playing well. Keep him as the backup in case Brock gets hurt. If Brock plays well the rest of the way, there's no controversy next season. Jimmy leaves and Lance returns as the starter. Brock will be a proven backup that can step in if Lance struggles really bad. It really depends on how Brock plays the rest of the way.

Mariota getting benched. Has a higher QBR than Jimmy though. Interesting.

ESPN: Falcons bench Marcus Mariota in favor of Desmond Ridder, source says.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35211209/falcons-bench-marcus-mariota-favor-desmond-ridder-source-says

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by NCommand:
This is how I saw it too. Trying to preserve the FG. Too bad the LB's knee landed right on the side of his ankle.

What happened on the Miami Dolphins LB Jerome Baker play that Jimmy got hurt on? What should have happened?

"They brought an all-out blitz. What you want to do is ditch it to Deebo or Christian right away underneath, but they popped two guys out and those guys had them outside and inside, so they took away our hot routes on that play, so you take a sack is what you usually do. You'd love to throw it away and not do it, but they did it too fast and they were on him too quick, so you take a sack, protect the ball and Jimmy did an unbelievable job. That play shows kind of how Jimmy is. That he was getting sacked about to go past the 35-yard line and how much easier it is for us to be in front of that 35-yard line. He kept his legs going, got Robbie the field goal and that's how his foot got caught up." ~ Kyle

ah so instead of trying to spin and stretch blame for an injury by blaming Jimmy for a freak accident type of injury that would break any QB's foot, it was in reality a freak accident type of injury that was unfortunate and unlucky

This.

Just for clarity, if I was to say that I dont believe its Jimmy's fault that he got hurt, but he could/should have gone down immediately to mitigate the chance of getting hurt, I am considered to be one of the people who is "blaming" Jimmy for his injury?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Youngone:
Florio: if Jimmy is healthy you don't play him even though he gives you the best shot because you don't want 2023 QB drama. 🤣

I agree that they shouldn't play him as long as Brock is playing well. Keep him as the backup in case Brock gets hurt. If Brock plays well the rest of the way, there's no controversy next season. Jimmy leaves and Lance returns as the starter. Brock will be a proven backup that can step in if Lance struggles really bad. It really depends on how Brock plays the rest of the way.

Unless Brock is lights out then I prefer a healthy Jimmy. Only a SB victory makes a controversy

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just for clarity, if I was to say that I dont believe its Jimmy's fault that he got hurt, but he could/should have gone down immediately to mitigate the chance of getting hurt, I am considered to be one of the people who is "blaming" Jimmy for his injury?

Sir, your nuance is always appreciated. I get what you're saying and I honestly can't disagree. Should/could Jimmy have just gone down immediately and avoided any type of struggle? Hard to argue with that. But given the importance of the game, the quick strike by Miami, the field position, the down and distance - one can clearly understand why he did what he did. It's also inline with his overall style of play which is to squeeze every bit out of every play possible. He hangs in the pocket until the last second waiting for window to open to throw to, and takes huge hits in the process. He pushes that "needle" further than most QB's are even willing to try.

To me as a fan, I appreciate this approach by Jimmy immensely. Is it the "best" approach overall? Very debatable of course. He's sustained season ending injuries because of this. He's also made some incredible throws into super tight windows for TD's and/or 3rd down conversions. I just find it very difficult to fault him for his approach because it's selfless and the intent is to help the team any way he can, even if it means sacrificing himself physically.

The timing of posts matters as well. We had guys coming in here saying "I told you so" and calling Jimmy "fragile" and a "bust" during the game and right after. Just totally uncalled for, tasteless, and shameful. I do think there is a conversation to be had about this, but if requires nuance and timing that most of the Jimmy detractors simply lack.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just for clarity, if I was to say that I dont believe its Jimmy's fault that he got hurt, but he could/should have gone down immediately to mitigate the chance of getting hurt, I am considered to be one of the people who is "blaming" Jimmy for his injury?

Only if youre one of the guys who would have blamed him afterwards for taking us out of field goal position for just taking a sack.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
thought this was interesting

"I think it was little bit bigger from Trey to Jimmy, just in terms of the running element that Trey had," Shanahan admitted. "Just how he looked at a game plan, how we positioned the formations and stuff to kind of keep him always as a threat as a runner.

"Jimmy and Brock aren't necessarily running threats, so you don't sit there and design stuff like that, but they're definitely both mobile enough to make plays with their legs."

Was kind of disappointed to hear him say that. Brock did a lot of running in college. Averaging around 300 yards per season and totaled 19 touchdowns.

To contrast, Jimmy's rushing total after four years in college was negative lol.

True, but looking at tape, it is apparent that Brock knows how to duck and escape (sometimes) a blitzer or if the DL just overwhelms our OL. On several occasions he had the right spin moves and then got away to the right side by weaving and ducking…THAT is the kind of running i like to see my QB have. Also, he showed a very early "sixth" sense, of someone about to nail him from blindside or behind. Like that too. For a kid playing his first ever NFL game that was pretty dang heady. Not to mention 22 for 37 and 2 TDs/ 1 INT.

For game #1, what's not to like?

Originally posted by Youngone:
Florio: if Jimmy is healthy you don't play him even though he gives you the best shot because you don't want 2023 QB drama. 🤣

Clickbait.

You play the QB that you think will give you the best chance of winning.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just for clarity, if I was to say that I dont believe its Jimmy's fault that he got hurt, but he could/should have gone down immediately to mitigate the chance of getting hurt, I am considered to be one of the people who is "blaming" Jimmy for his injury?

Only if youre one of the guys who would have blamed him afterwards for taking us out of field goal position for just taking a sack.

Are you a "hater" if you've repeatedly said you want Kyle Shanahan fired and blamed him solely for every game the offense struggles?

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:
thought this was interesting

"I think it was little bit bigger from Trey to Jimmy, just in terms of the running element that Trey had," Shanahan admitted. "Just how he looked at a game plan, how we positioned the formations and stuff to kind of keep him always as a threat as a runner.

"Jimmy and Brock aren't necessarily running threats, so you don't sit there and design stuff like that, but they're definitely both mobile enough to make plays with their legs."

Was kind of disappointed to hear him say that. Brock did a lot of running in college. Averaging around 300 yards per season and totaled 19 touchdowns.

To contrast, Jimmy's rushing total after four years in college was negative lol.

True, but looking at tape, it is apparent that Brock knows how to duck and escape (sometimes) a blitzer or if the DL just overwhelms our OL. On several occasions he had the right spin moves and then got away to the right side by weaving and ducking…THAT is the kind of running i like to see my QB have. Also, he showed a very early "sixth" sense, of someone about to nail him from blindside or behind. Like that too. For a kid playing his first ever NFL game that was pretty dang heady. Not to mention 22 for 37 and 2 TDs/ 1 INT.

For game #1, what's not to like?

He actually completed almost 68% of his passes. He was 25/37.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Just for clarity, if I was to say that I dont believe its Jimmy's fault that he got hurt, but he could/should have gone down immediately to mitigate the chance of getting hurt, I am considered to be one of the people who is "blaming" Jimmy for his injury?

"Could" is an objectively true statement and allows for discussion of pros and cons.

"Should" is Monday morning quarterbacking that pretty readily blends into assigning fault. It substitutes your own judgement for his and indicates that he took a suboptimal approach. Though his approach was probably suboptimal, your judgment after the fact does not adequately substitute for his judgment in the moment for a variety of reasons.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Mariota getting benched. Has a higher QBR than Jimmy though. Interesting.

ESPN: Falcons bench Marcus Mariota in favor of Desmond Ridder, source says.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35211209/falcons-bench-marcus-mariota-favor-desmond-ridder-source-says

It shows the weakness of the QBR system which weighs running as heavily as it does. His NFL passer rating puts him in a tie at #20. Not good. Bench.