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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

I see people use terms like that all the time but they're really expressing disappointment as much as anything else. We have posters that say this or that player sucks when they really mean he's not a pro bowler or as good as they want. Some expect perfection at every position. Most people that weren't Jimmy fans didn't hate him They just wanted someone a notch above that could stay healthy. That's what happens when you get spoiled by having back to back HOF QBs. Jimmy would have been the best QB in 70 years for the Bears. For theNiners he was maybe the 6th best in that span behind Montana, Young, Garcia, Brodie and Tittle. Alex Smith was probably as good or better but he never had the benefit of playing under a good coach until Harbaugh came along.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

I see people use terms like that all the time but they're really expressing disappointment as much as anything else. We have posters that say this or that player sucks when they really mean he's not a pro bowler or as good as they want. Some expect perfection at every position. Most people that weren't Jimmy fans didn't hate him They just wanted someone a notch above that could stay healthy. That's what happens when you get spoiled by having back to back HOF QBs. Jimmy would have been the best QB in 70 years for the Bears. For theNiners he was maybe the 6th best in that span behind Montana, Young, Garcia, Brodie and Tittle. Alex Smith was probably as good or better but he never had the benefit of playing under a good coach until Harbaugh came along.

There are definitely some people, media and on here, that were ridiculously hard on him. I never understood it. Of course he had limitations and it was annoying that he was injured a lot - i was just saying that idk how anyone can feel disdain towards him. It was fun to watch games during his tenure and you can tell he was doing his best, and his best was much better than we've seen in a long time.

i always liked the guy and supported him, I still think he's better than a lot of people give him, but I was ready to move on.

i think it's a problem with a franchise like ours, packers, NE etc - fans have seen such amazingly high level of play that if someone doesn't match that - they suck. It's like a double edged sword. Hahah I understand wanting top tier play at QB, I sure want it, but it doesn't make me dislike a player to the level tHat I've seen with Jimmy.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

Bottom tier is in the "sucks" category
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

Bottom tier is in the "sucks" category

I'm laughing right now cause now we are debating if people hated jimmy or not. Hahaha THE LEGEND LIVES ON!
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I see people use terms like that all the time but they're really expressing disappointment as much as anything else. We have posters that say this or that player sucks when they really mean he's not a pro bowler or as good as they want. Some expect perfection at every position. Most people that weren't Jimmy fans didn't hate him They just wanted someone a notch above that could stay healthy. That's what happens when you get spoiled by having back to back HOF QBs. Jimmy would have been the best QB in 70 years for the Bears. For theNiners he was maybe the 6th best in that span behind Montana, Young, Garcia, Brodie and Tittle. Alex Smith was probably as good or better but he never had the benefit of playing under a good coach until Harbaugh came along.

Cop out response.

At this point, the people who watched Young are pushing 40, and the people who watched Montana are beyond that. We have an entire chunk of our fanbase that wasn't around for either one of those guys, let alone Brodie or Tittle. In my lifetime, Garoppolo is easily the best QB the 49ers have had since Garcia, and yes that includes even Harbaugh era Alex. I loved Alex Smith and felt he also got a raw deal here, but even at his peak under Harbaugh, he wasn't putting up the numbers that Jimmy was.

Jimmy G is the best QB this franchise has had in decades, and was a key contributing factor to the resurgence of the 49ers under Shanahan. Jimmy was not the only factor, by any means, and Jimmy is far from irreplaceable, and the franchise has made their decision to move on. We had better hope that Brock or Trey are worth it in the long run, because the franchise ran out a damned good QB over a case of "grass is greener". As a 49ers fan who is pushing 40 myself, and spent the majority of my fandom watching the franchise be bottom feeders, this is the 2nd time in a decade that the franchise has pushed out a good QB for the shinier toy. Last time, that shiner toy ended up being a far more incompetent option that tanked the franchise for nearly a decade. I certainly don't want to watch that happen again should Lance be a bust or Brock end up being a flash in the pan (neither of which I am saying will or won't happen. Neither one has enough experience under their belt to indicate one way or another)

My problem never has been the idea of replacing Jimmy G, my problem has always been the false narrative surrounding him (no, it's not just people who want a "notch above that can stay healthy". The entire narrative surrounding him is full blown hyperbole not supported by fact that continues to get fueled and pushed by the media) as well as the single track focus on running him out at all costs, no matter the expense to the rest of the team (i.e. trading away 3 1st round picks to get his replacement)

Jimmy is certainly upgradeable, but I have issue with a front office, a media, and a fanbase, that is so obsessed with blowing up something that has been so successful for us and returned this franchise to respectability after so long of being a bottom dweller. Not very many franchises, and not many QB's, have had more success in the league since Jimmy G came on board as the starter of the 49ers, and I am absolutely flabbergasted at the obsession with blowing that up.

Jimmy is not the sole reason for our success by any means, but he certainly is a positive contributor of that. Not just "along for the ride" and "being carried" by a defense and running game that was completely unable to do it when he wasn't around.

At this point, he's left as a free agent, and my hope is that this is a mutually beneficial solution for both sides - the 49ers can move on with someone they hope can take the reigns for the future (and with 2 young prospects in Trey Lance and Brock Purdy who have both shown promise in their own ways, there is certainly hope), and Jimmy can move on to a franchise and a coach that actually wants him where he won't have to look over his shoulder every step of the way. More important to me is how the 49ers move on from this. Neither Trey nor Brock are guaranteed to succeed long term. All the same people saying that we've seen enough from Brock are the same ones saying the 49ers paid Jimmy G off too small a sample size. Trey Lance has even less than that. It is not a guarantee that either one of them will even be as good as Jimmy G long term, let alone better. Despite what newly blowing trends are suggesting, there is also nothing to indicate that Trey Lance is going to end up being a bust either. My hope now is for one of those guys to take charge and make this team theirs.
He's gone. Grab a Kleenex and move on.
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Cop out response.

At this point, the people who watched Young are pushing 40, and the people who watched Montana are beyond that. We have an entire chunk of our fanbase that wasn't around for either one of those guys, let alone Brodie or Tittle. In my lifetime, Garoppolo is easily the best QB the 49ers have had since Garcia, and yes that includes even Harbaugh era Alex. I loved Alex Smith and felt he also got a raw deal here, but even at his peak under Harbaugh, he wasn't putting up the numbers that Jimmy was.

Jimmy G is the best QB this franchise has had in decades, and was a key contributing factor to the resurgence of the 49ers under Shanahan. Jimmy was not the only factor, by any means, and Jimmy is far from irreplaceable, and the franchise has made their decision to move on. We had better hope that Brock or Trey are worth it in the long run, because the franchise ran out a damned good QB over a case of "grass is greener". As a 49ers fan who is pushing 40 myself, and spent the majority of my fandom watching the franchise be bottom feeders, this is the 2nd time in a decade that the franchise has pushed out a good QB for the shinier toy. Last time, that shiner toy ended up being a far more incompetent option that tanked the franchise for nearly a decade. I certainly don't want to watch that happen again should Lance be a bust or Brock end up being a flash in the pan (neither of which I am saying will or won't happen. Neither one has enough experience under their belt to indicate one way or another)

My problem never has been the idea of replacing Jimmy G, my problem has always been the false narrative surrounding him (no, it's not just people who want a "notch above that can stay healthy". The entire narrative surrounding him is full blown hyperbole not supported by fact that continues to get fueled and pushed by the media) as well as the single track focus on running him out at all costs, no matter the expense to the rest of the team (i.e. trading away 3 1st round picks to get his replacement)

Jimmy is certainly upgradeable, but I have issue with a front office, a media, and a fanbase, that is so obsessed with blowing up something that has been so successful for us and returned this franchise to respectability after so long of being a bottom dweller. Not very many franchises, and not many QB's, have had more success in the league since Jimmy G came on board as the starter of the 49ers, and I am absolutely flabbergasted at the obsession with blowing that up.

Jimmy is not the sole reason for our success by any means, but he certainly is a positive contributor of that. Not just "along for the ride" and "being carried" by a defense and running game that was completely unable to do it when he wasn't around.

At this point, he's left as a free agent, and my hope is that this is a mutually beneficial solution for both sides - the 49ers can move on with someone they hope can take the reigns for the future (and with 2 young prospects in Trey Lance and Brock Purdy who have both shown promise in their own ways, there is certainly hope), and Jimmy can move on to a franchise and a coach that actually wants him where he won't have to look over his shoulder every step of the way. More important to me is how the 49ers move on from this. Neither Trey nor Brock are guaranteed to succeed long term. All the same people saying that we've seen enough from Brock are the same ones saying the 49ers paid Jimmy G off too small a sample size. Trey Lance has even less than that. It is not a guarantee that either one of them will even be as good as Jimmy G long term, let alone better. Despite what newly blowing trends are suggesting, there is also nothing to indicate that Trey Lance is going to end up being a bust either. My hope now is for one of those guys to take charge and make this team theirs.

I'd say a large part of the fan base has only witnessed like 7 winning seasons and 0 super wins - but 2 super bowl losses. I'm part of that and I'm 30. Unless you were watching football at like 2-7 years old. Lol which some may have but I wasn't into the game the same at that age.

niners have been as bad as any team for a majority of our life and the definition of dysfunction. Literally a laughing stock from the time I was in 2nd grade to graduating highschool, we had 0 winning seasons. Lol older folks don't understand this.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Maybe first couple years but not overall. Jimmy won't last that long.

Stop dude. He's a raider now

Get over it
Originally posted by Franchise408:
Cop out response.

At this point, the people who watched Young are pushing 40, and the people who watched Montana are beyond that. We have an entire chunk of our fanbase that wasn't around for either one of those guys, let alone Brodie or Tittle. In my lifetime, Garoppolo is easily the best QB the 49ers have had since Garcia, and yes that includes even Harbaugh era Alex. I loved Alex Smith and felt he also got a raw deal here, but even at his peak under Harbaugh, he wasn't putting up the numbers that Jimmy was.

Jimmy G is the best QB this franchise has had in decades, and was a key contributing factor to the resurgence of the 49ers under Shanahan. Jimmy was not the only factor, by any means, and Jimmy is far from irreplaceable, and the franchise has made their decision to move on. We had better hope that Brock or Trey are worth it in the long run, because the franchise ran out a damned good QB over a case of "grass is greener". As a 49ers fan who is pushing 40 myself, and spent the majority of my fandom watching the franchise be bottom feeders, this is the 2nd time in a decade that the franchise has pushed out a good QB for the shinier toy. Last time, that shiner toy ended up being a far more incompetent option that tanked the franchise for nearly a decade. I certainly don't want to watch that happen again should Lance be a bust or Brock end up being a flash in the pan (neither of which I am saying will or won't happen. Neither one has enough experience under their belt to indicate one way or another)

My problem never has been the idea of replacing Jimmy G, my problem has always been the false narrative surrounding him (no, it's not just people who want a "notch above that can stay healthy". The entire narrative surrounding him is full blown hyperbole not supported by fact that continues to get fueled and pushed by the media) as well as the single track focus on running him out at all costs, no matter the expense to the rest of the team (i.e. trading away 3 1st round picks to get his replacement)

Jimmy is certainly upgradeable, but I have issue with a front office, a media, and a fanbase, that is so obsessed with blowing up something that has been so successful for us and returned this franchise to respectability after so long of being a bottom dweller. Not very many franchises, and not many QB's, have had more success in the league since Jimmy G came on board as the starter of the 49ers, and I am absolutely flabbergasted at the obsession with blowing that up.

Jimmy is not the sole reason for our success by any means, but he certainly is a positive contributor of that. Not just "along for the ride" and "being carried" by a defense and running game that was completely unable to do it when he wasn't around.

At this point, he's left as a free agent, and my hope is that this is a mutually beneficial solution for both sides - the 49ers can move on with someone they hope can take the reigns for the future (and with 2 young prospects in Trey Lance and Brock Purdy who have both shown promise in their own ways, there is certainly hope), and Jimmy can move on to a franchise and a coach that actually wants him where he won't have to look over his shoulder every step of the way. More important to me is how the 49ers move on from this. Neither Trey nor Brock are guaranteed to succeed long term. All the same people saying that we've seen enough from Brock are the same ones saying the 49ers paid Jimmy G off too small a sample size. Trey Lance has even less than that. It is not a guarantee that either one of them will even be as good as Jimmy G long term, let alone better. Despite what newly blowing trends are suggesting, there is also nothing to indicate that Trey Lance is going to end up being a bust either. My hope now is for one of those guys to take charge and make this team theirs.

Lol right, from the time I was in 2nd grade to graduating highschool, niners had like 0 winning seasons. I grew up in NorCal and they were a laughing stock. If you're 30 and younger, all you've seen is the worst team in the league a lot of seasons and 2 super bowl losses. I've only seen like 7 winning seasons of niner ball in my life.

i appreciate jimmy for helping us become a respectable organization and compete again. I love the way he represented the team too, great locker room guy. I'll always appreciate him. I hope Purdy can take the next step and give us that notch up play wise that we all desire.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Mar 15, 2023 at 9:48 AM ]
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

I see people use terms like that all the time but they're really expressing disappointment as much as anything else. We have posters that say this or that player sucks when they really mean he's not a pro bowler or as good as they want. Some expect perfection at every position. Most people that weren't Jimmy fans didn't hate him They just wanted someone a notch above that could stay healthy. That's what happens when you get spoiled by having back to back HOF QBs. Jimmy would have been the best QB in 70 years for the Bears. For theNiners he was maybe the 6th best in that span behind Montana, Young, Garcia, Brodie and Tittle. Alex Smith was probably as good or better but he never had the benefit of playing under a good coach until Harbaugh came along.

The bolded is the EXACT proof that Jimmy was "hated" rather than "criticized" unfairly. To dismiss the irrational BS that was spewed on this forum and in the media towards him as merely "criticism" is extremely disingenuous.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

Other than in heated gameday threads where people say foolish stuff,....who the hell said this stuff?

No one. Now you are setting some bar that no one has ever reached to act as a consolation prize in your own mind.

What I was really trying to tell you midseason (although you wouldn't listen) is that his value is nowhere near a Josh Allen. Remember all of that crazy talk you helped foster? Or let's just pretend like it didn't happen?

After his best season and in his prime, Jimmy got paid what he was currently worth on the free market.
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Originally posted by Franchise408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I see people use terms like that all the time but they're really expressing disappointment as much as anything else. We have posters that say this or that player sucks when they really mean he's not a pro bowler or as good as they want. Some expect perfection at every position. Most people that weren't Jimmy fans didn't hate him They just wanted someone a notch above that could stay healthy. That's what happens when you get spoiled by having back to back HOF QBs. Jimmy would have been the best QB in 70 years for the Bears. For theNiners he was maybe the 6th best in that span behind Montana, Young, Garcia, Brodie and Tittle. Alex Smith was probably as good or better but he never had the benefit of playing under a good coach until Harbaugh came along.

Cop out response.

At this point, the people who watched Young are pushing 40, and the people who watched Montana are beyond that. We have an entire chunk of our fanbase that wasn't around for either one of those guys, let alone Brodie or Tittle. In my lifetime, Garoppolo is easily the best QB the 49ers have had since Garcia, and yes that includes even Harbaugh era Alex. I loved Alex Smith and felt he also got a raw deal here, but even at his peak under Harbaugh, he wasn't putting up the numbers that Jimmy was.

Jimmy G is the best QB this franchise has had in decades, and was a key contributing factor to the resurgence of the 49ers under Shanahan. Jimmy was not the only factor, by any means, and Jimmy is far from irreplaceable, and the franchise has made their decision to move on. We had better hope that Brock or Trey are worth it in the long run, because the franchise ran out a damned good QB over a case of "grass is greener". As a 49ers fan who is pushing 40 myself, and spent the majority of my fandom watching the franchise be bottom feeders, this is the 2nd time in a decade that the franchise has pushed out a good QB for the shinier toy. Last time, that shiner toy ended up being a far more incompetent option that tanked the franchise for nearly a decade. I certainly don't want to watch that happen again should Lance be a bust or Brock end up being a flash in the pan (neither of which I am saying will or won't happen. Neither one has enough experience under their belt to indicate one way or another)

My problem never has been the idea of replacing Jimmy G, my problem has always been the false narrative surrounding him (no, it's not just people who want a "notch above that can stay healthy". The entire narrative surrounding him is full blown hyperbole not supported by fact that continues to get fueled and pushed by the media) as well as the single track focus on running him out at all costs, no matter the expense to the rest of the team (i.e. trading away 3 1st round picks to get his replacement)

Jimmy is certainly upgradeable, but I have issue with a front office, a media, and a fanbase, that is so obsessed with blowing up something that has been so successful for us and returned this franchise to respectability after so long of being a bottom dweller. Not very many franchises, and not many QB's, have had more success in the league since Jimmy G came on board as the starter of the 49ers, and I am absolutely flabbergasted at the obsession with blowing that up.

Jimmy is not the sole reason for our success by any means, but he certainly is a positive contributor of that. Not just "along for the ride" and "being carried" by a defense and running game that was completely unable to do it when he wasn't around.

At this point, he's left as a free agent, and my hope is that this is a mutually beneficial solution for both sides - the 49ers can move on with someone they hope can take the reigns for the future (and with 2 young prospects in Trey Lance and Brock Purdy who have both shown promise in their own ways, there is certainly hope), and Jimmy can move on to a franchise and a coach that actually wants him where he won't have to look over his shoulder every step of the way. More important to me is how the 49ers move on from this. Neither Trey nor Brock are guaranteed to succeed long term. All the same people saying that we've seen enough from Brock are the same ones saying the 49ers paid Jimmy G off too small a sample size. Trey Lance has even less than that. It is not a guarantee that either one of them will even be as good as Jimmy G long term, let alone better. Despite what newly blowing trends are suggesting, there is also nothing to indicate that Trey Lance is going to end up being a bust either. My hope now is for one of those guys to take charge and make this team theirs.

GREAT post! Pin this to the top of the damn thread. For me, I'm 48 and I lived through the glory years of Montana and Young. But I am still level headed enough to know that each era is different, and each season is different. Teams do the best they can trying to build long term success while pushing for short term success. The game itself is a week to week deal, so that focus gets even tighter on a game by game basis. The point I'm making is we struck a very good balance between all of that with Jimmy as the QB; and I agree that running him out is a gamble. I do believe that Purdy is and will be better; and since he's much cheaper it's worth the gamble. BUT I am also extremely thankful for the years that Jimmy was here, and being able to be proud of our team, win more than we lost, and get really damn close to winning it all.

On the other end of the spectrum are fans who think that is "loser" mentality. That if you don't win the Super Bowl, the season was a waste. They would rather go 0-17 and have the first pick, just for the chance of the next generational QB. To me, THAT is loser mentality. Life (and sports) is about doing the best you can with what you've got. Results are just a byproduct of that hard work and sacrifice. These Niner teams the past few seasons are the epitome of that, as is Jimmy. It's been an honor to be a fan these past few seasons, and we have a lot to be proud of.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

Bottom tier is in the "sucks" category

I'm laughing right now cause now we are debating if people hated jimmy or not. Hahaha THE LEGEND LIVES ON!

Lots of debate about "feelings"

which is corny
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll never understand the hate for jimmy. Best QB we've had since Garcia and helped lead us to a lot of wins. Handled all the outside noise as well as anyone ever has. Class act (except the random old porn star banging hahahah). Top 10-12 qb in the league consistently, great on third down, very efficient, excellent locker room guy. He had his limitations but we could of been a lot worse off.

i wish the guy nothing but the best, unless he's playing the 49ers, of course. Haha
there's no hate.. but those limitations you talked about is why he isn't here anymore

There's no hate, could've fooled me the past few years. WTF was that then tough love. I don't think so. The main reason he's not here anymore which I don't know how anyone could disagree with is availability. If Jimmy stayed healthy since 2017 there would be no Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. But that's all past us now, moving on!!!!
the hate was more of poster vs poster with jimmy being the pawn

There's a difference between hate and criticism. Unfortunately too many people can't tell the difference.

Would you say that people who said he sucks, is only a backup, and isn't worth a bag of chips is hate or criticism?

Bottom tier is in the "sucks" category

I'm laughing right now cause now we are debating if people hated jimmy or not. Hahaha THE LEGEND LIVES ON!

Lots of debate about "feelings"

which is corny

Eh I disagree with you on this. As fans, it's all emotional for us. It's all our opinions and feelings as fans. I do agree that it can go too far though.
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