Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

It looks like the Jimmy is great/Jimmy sucks argument will continue forever. Probably at his eulogy when he dies.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Headline from Albert Breer..

Raiders View Jimmy Garoppolo as Better Culture Fit Than Derek Carr

What does culture have to do with winning football games as a QB? I thought it was just air yards and arm strength?

Another slap in the face of the he's a b 'rumors'..

there is rumors and there is reality.. reality is McD signed him and a bunch of real journos saying it's cuz of the ability to be a team guy and run McDs offense, even David Carr of We Want Carr fame said that.

Wait, David Carr said Jimmy is a better fit for the Raiders than his own brother? Lol

Yeah I put the video.. he said Derek and McD were butting heads a bit and JG is more gonna come in and run the play McD is calling, trust McDs system etc.

I missed that, interesting. I'm kinda hearing that as McD prefers Jimmy because he knows he's nicer and won't argue with his play calls lol.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like the Jimmy is great/Jimmy sucks argument will continue forever. Probably at his eulogy when he dies.

Lol. 49att, SWH, and random will definitely be there just in case someone tries to say something nice about him.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like the Jimmy is great/Jimmy sucks argument will continue forever. Probably at his eulogy when he dies.

Lol. 49att, SWH, and random will definitely be there just in case someone tries to say something nice about him.

Still never once said Jimmy sucks, but keep misrepresenting what I say. Wouldnt be the first time. Or the 324th.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If they get worse in most or all of the below, and Jimmy plays, yes I'd put that on Jimmy.

Raiders had a -8 turnover ratio and average TOP of 30:10 per game. Their defense was 19th in rushing yards per game allowed and 29th in passing yards per game allowed. 30th in sacks. 26th in 3rd down percentage/stops.

That makes zero sense to me.

So if Jimmy plays more in 2018 the 9ers don't set the record for fewest turnovers forced ever?

The Eagles had the ball 35 minutes in the SB.

In general, defenses that are on the field a lot are tired and don't make as many plays nor force as many turnovers. Does that make sense to you?

How many spots higher would you guess that our defenses' ranked at the end of the year due to Jimmy?

8-10.

Wow. Our defense has ranked as many as 10 spots higher due to JIMMY GAROPPOLO. Lol not even the offense, the style of play, et. al.,...but JIMMY. I'm shocked @ the # of teams this coming season that passed over a top-ranked defense by not fighting over Jimmy.

This is certainly save-worthy.

Again, same BS that SWH is spewing.

This is one of your most off-base posts in awhile. And you're not even recognizing the other 10 guys that are on the field, the coaches designing and calling the plays,...nor are you recognizing the WORK that the defense does early in games that allows our offense multiple opportunities, forcing 3 and outs that gets them right back out there, and keeps things manageable for the offense to do what they do (ground and pound pretty much, which eats up clock).

This is circular and to suggest that a QB like Jimmy can or have raised a defense's season-long standing 10 spots (scoring/ypg) by himself is completely insane.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

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— JT (@CondorSZN) March 16, 2023

The one holding the G looks pretty good, rest are pretty meh

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
If they get worse in most or all of the below, and Jimmy plays, yes I'd put that on Jimmy.

Raiders had a -8 turnover ratio and average TOP of 30:10 per game. Their defense was 19th in rushing yards per game allowed and 29th in passing yards per game allowed. 30th in sacks. 26th in 3rd down percentage/stops.

That makes zero sense to me.

So if Jimmy plays more in 2018 the 9ers don't set the record for fewest turnovers forced ever?

The Eagles had the ball 35 minutes in the SB.

In general, defenses that are on the field a lot are tired and don't make as many plays nor force as many turnovers. Does that make sense to you?

How many spots higher would you guess that our defenses' ranked at the end of the year due to Jimmy?

8-10.

Wow. Our defense has ranked as many as 10 spots higher due to JIMMY GAROPPOLO. Lol not even the offense, the style of play, et. al.,...but JIMMY. I'm shocked @ the # of teams this coming season that passed over a top-ranked defense by not fighting over Jimmy.

This is certainly save-worthy.

Again, same BS that SWH is spewing.

This is one of your most off-base posts in awhile. And you're not even recognizing the other 10 guys that are on the field, the coaches designing and calling the plays,...nor are you recognizing the WORK that the defense does early in games that allows our offense multiple opportunities, forcing 3 and outs that gets them right back out there, and keeps things manageable for the offense to do what they do (ground and pound pretty much, which eats up clock).

This is circular and to suggest that a QB like Jimmy can or have raised a defense's season-long standing 10 spots (scoring/ypg) by himself is completely insane.

You should follow your own advice when you're blaming Jimmy for the NFCC and SB loss or being negative every post. It's extremely hypocritical.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Again, same BS that SWH is spewing.

It literally blows my mind that you consider what I am saying BS. Yes, I know you never claimed Kyle had no affect on Jimmy's 3rd down play. But you refuse to acknowledge that its entirely possible that he had a MAJOR impact on Jimmy's 3rd down play. In 2020, he made NICK MULLENS have a similar 3rd down conversion rate as TOM BRADY ffs. Doesnt that speak volumes?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

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— JT (@CondorSZN) March 16, 2023

The one holding the G looks pretty good, rest are pretty meh

I'll take the one holding the E.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like the Jimmy is great/Jimmy sucks argument will continue forever. Probably at his eulogy when he dies.

Lol. 49att, SWH, and random will definitely be there just in case someone tries to say something nice about him.

Still never once said Jimmy sucks, but keep misrepresenting what I say. Wouldnt be the first time. Or the 324th.

Where did I say that you said he sucks? What I did say is you won't let one positive comment slide without saying something negative, which is the truth.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

pic.twitter.com/YsmWf40mKX

— JT (@CondorSZN) March 16, 2023

The one holding the G looks pretty good, rest are pretty meh

I'll take the one holding the E.

They're hookers. You aren't going to marry them. They just need to be willing and capable.

Originally posted by Furlow:
JFC man. Of course the players on defense get credit for making tackles, stops, sacks, interceptions. But no, they do not get credit for that TURNAROUND because they had nothing to do with it. Do you think they just coincidentally decided to start playing better once Jimmy got there? Give me a break.

It's like you guys intentionally misinterpret words and opinions just so you can argue.

So the players actually making the plays on the field (stops, turnovers, tackles etc) don't get any credit for the turnaround? It's just simply the offense had the ball more.

All the credit means all the credit dude. No misinterpreting going on.

JFC indeed

Originally posted by Furlow:
I can agree to that. Hell I'll even capitulate and say that the improvement in 2017 wasn't "100%" from Jimmy. But these guys are trying to give Jimmy zero credit and instead make it sound like the defense just operates as it's own unit totally separate from the offense, QB, special teams, etc. That is crazy talk. Every facet of football affects the others, this is a very basic tenet of the game.

Speaking of misrepresentation of what's being said.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It looks like the Jimmy is great/Jimmy sucks argument will continue forever. Probably at his eulogy when he dies.

Lol. 49att, SWH, and random will definitely be there just in case someone tries to say something nice about him.

Still never once said Jimmy sucks, but keep misrepresenting what I say. Wouldnt be the first time. Or the 324th.

Where did I say that you said he sucks? What I did say is you won't let one positive comment slide without saying something negative, which is the truth.

The comment you replied to says thinks Jimmy is great or Jimmy sucks. You then called me out and you know DAMN WELL that I do not think Jimmy is great. So what does that leave?