Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it's true. for example, i was saying brock can make all the throws. now after watching this season, i have changed my mind. NY was right on that one, and i have said that in the thread. also with Jimmy, now he did some good things, but i can say looking back it was probably a square peg in a round hole in SF. we are all about the run game, so get a QB who can compliment that, with downfield throws or a QB who runs himself. that's where i am at now. it's a changing league and i'm happy to modify my stance as the information changes.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it's true. for example, i was saying brock can make all the throws. now after watching this season, i have changed my mind. NY was right on that one, and i have said that in the thread. also with Jimmy, now he did some good things, but i can say looking back it was probably a square peg in a round hole in SF. we are all about the run game, so get a QB who can compliment that, with downfield throws or a QB who runs himself. that's where i am at now. it's a changing league and i'm happy to modify my stance as the information changes.

So a pro bowl qb can't make all the throws but a guy who never made all the throws was limited by the offense.

Perfect sense

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it's true. for example, i was saying brock can make all the throws. now after watching this season, i have changed my mind. NY was right on that one, and i have said that in the thread. also with Jimmy, now he did some good things, but i can say looking back it was probably a square peg in a round hole in SF. we are all about the run game, so get a QB who can compliment that, with downfield throws or a QB who runs himself. that's where i am at now. it's a changing league and i'm happy to modify my stance as the information changes.

So a pro bowl qb can't make all the throws but a guy who never made all the throws was limited by the offense.

Perfect sense

i don't put a lot of stock in the modern pro bowl. i don't think you understand what i am saying with jimmy. i'm saying he while he can play and did play pretty well, he's not ideal for our system. wouldn't you agree? or do you think JG is the ideal shanny QB?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

he was drafted by belichick era pats, a dynasty team, and we invested under shanny and lynch. he got to vegas off the pats connections. he's had a fine career, rings, money, team success, individual stats, so forth. now if you want to lead the league in rushing, i don't see what he offers to help that O. he's not a play action take a shot downfield QB. he's more no huddle and ball out quick to the TE or backs. but despite the odd fit here, we still made it work and won a good number of games.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

he was drafted by belichick era pats, a dynasty team, and we invested under shanny and lynch. he got to vegas off the pats connections. he's had a fine career, rings, money, team success, individual stats, so forth. now if you want to lead the league in rushing, i don't see what he offers to help that O. he's not a play action take a shot downfield QB. he's more no huddle and ball out quick to the TE or backs. but despite the odd fit here, we still made it work and won a good number of games.

Ryan Mallet was drafted by Belichick era pats, a dynasty team.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

he was drafted by belichick era pats, a dynasty team, and we invested under shanny and lynch. he got to vegas off the pats connections. he's had a fine career, rings, money, team success, individual stats, so forth. now if you want to lead the league in rushing, i don't see what he offers to help that O. he's not a play action take a shot downfield QB. he's more no huddle and ball out quick to the TE or backs. but despite the odd fit here, we still made it work and won a good number of games.

Ryan Mallet was drafted by Belichick era pats, a dynasty team.

and you can put Jimmy's numbers up against him. not even close. my point on Jimmy is it's false to say he's not ideal for any system. guy didn't have a bad career by any stretch of the imagination. mallett if you follow sec or college football he's a bit of a legend, rest in peace. lot of guys just don't pan out in the NFL. it's the best of the best of the best.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy isn't ideal for any system. Hence getting cut by the Raiders and being a backup

Nobody would succeed on the Raiders. They have the worst offensive scheme in football.

It's not an indictment of Jimmy.

He just nearly led the Rams' backups to a win over the Seahawks' starters and Jimmy bashers still think it's a good idea to bash him?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't put a lot of stock in the modern pro bowl. i don't think you understand what i am saying with jimmy. i'm saying he while he can play and did play pretty well, he's not ideal for our system. wouldn't you agree? or do you think JG is the ideal shanny QB?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
If he was so damn good and if the Raiders were the issue, he would've been starter for some team and not accepting a backup job.

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
If he was so damn good and if the Raiders were the issue, he would've been starter for some team and not accepting a backup job.

Why would that be? I could apply your claim to any number of QBs who were overlooked for numerous seasons in the league while garbage QBs got chance after chance.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
yeah jimmy was black listed like Kaep !

lol

Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
If he was so damn good and if the Raiders were the issue, he would've been starter for some team and not accepting a backup job.

Why would that be? I could apply your claim to any number of QBs who were overlooked for numerous seasons in the league while garbage QBs got chance after chance.