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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
^Not a very good list of players.

lol, what? This list does little more than prove that checking down neither signifies a good nor a bad player, as half of the above players are proven winners and/or have been honored with plenty of All Star accolades (see below).

Eli Manning: Winning record over his career, 4x Pro Bowler, 2x Super Bowl Champion and Super Bowl MVP

Joe Flacco: Winning record over his career, Super Bowl Champion and Super Bowl MVP

Philip Rivers: Winning record over his career, 8x Pro Bowler and numerous other accolades

Alex Smith: Winning record over his career, 3x Pro Bowler

Derek Carr: 3x Pro Bowler

***EDIT***

You know what? I am going to delete everything and just leave you with this question....

How many of the quarterbacks on that list would you want as your QB? I count one.
[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Jul 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM ]
Those stats were for the last 2 years .

Flacco and Manning were not accomplishing anything .

Carr did get a pro bowl 2017
Highest percentage of passes thrown short of the sticks (2016-18, including playoffs):

1. Brees 56.3%
2. Alex Smith 55.7
3. Flacco 55.6
4. Eli Manning 54.6
5. Stafford 54.3
6. Carr 53.9
7. Trubisky 53.2
8. Cousins 53.1
9. Keenum 52.9
10. Osweiler 51.8
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Highest percentage of passes thrown short of the sticks (2016-18, including playoffs):

1. Brees 56.3%
2. Alex Smith 55.7
3. Flacco 55.6
4. Eli Manning 54.6
5. Stafford 54.3
6. Carr 53.9
7. Trubisky 53.2
8. Cousins 53.1
9. Keenum 52.9
10. Osweiler 51.8

How the hell is Brady not on that list
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Highest percentage of passes thrown short of the sticks (2016-18, including playoffs):

1. Brees 56.3%
2. Alex Smith 55.7
3. Flacco 55.6
4. Eli Manning 54.6
5. Stafford 54.3
6. Carr 53.9
7. Trubisky 53.2
8. Cousins 53.1
9. Keenum 52.9
10. Osweiler 51.8

How the hell is Brady not on that list

His screens are laterals
Lowest average completion depth in a season (2016-18, min. 200 completions, inc playoffs):

1. Joe Flacco 2017 4.7
2. Alex Smith 2016 4.8
3. Sam Bradford 2016 5.0
4. Matthew Stafford 2018 5.1
5. Ben Roethlisberger 2018 5.2
5. Carson Wentz 2018 5.2
5. Joe Flacco 2016 5.2
Wth is a lowest avg completion depth lol
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Wth is a lowest avg completion depth lol

How far down the field the completion is made ? I'm assuming
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Highest percentage of "checkdowns" over last two seasons (screens are play calls, not checkdowns):

1. Bortles 11.2%
2. Kizer 10.4
3. Eli Manning 10.2
4. Osweiler 9.7
5. Brissett 9.3
6. Alex Smith 9.1
6. Flacco 9.1
8. Tyrod Taylor 8.7
8. Rivers 8.7
10. Carr 8.4

Bortles is officially captain check down

How is Smith not #1 at 80%? Can someone explain?
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[ Edited by Jiks on Jul 27, 2019 at 11:51 AM ]
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Highest percentage of "checkdowns" over last two seasons (screens are play calls, not checkdowns):

1. Bortles 11.2%
2. Kizer 10.4
3. Eli Manning 10.2
4. Osweiler 9.7
5. Brissett 9.3
6. Alex Smith 9.1
6. Flacco 9.1
8. Tyrod Taylor 8.7
8. Rivers 8.7
10. Carr 8.4

Bortles is officially captain check down

How is Smith not #1 at 80%? Can someone explain?

They dont count screens, and they probably don't count short routes (shallow crossers, quick slants, etc). It looks like they're only counting literal checkdowns to RBs in this stat.

The 4.8 yards avg depth of completion in 2016 paints a much better picture of the pop warner passing of Alex Smith.
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jul 28, 2019 at 8:17 AM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They dont count screens, and they probably don't count short routes (shallow crossers, quick slants, etc). It looks like they're only counting literal checkdowns to RBs in this stat.

The 4.8 yards avg depth of completion in 2016 paints a much better picture of the pop warner passing of Alex Smith.

I used to hear the same sort of comments about Joe Montana. Back in the day, Dan Marino was your big armed static qb. Joe seemed to turn out ok though.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They dont count screens, and they probably don't count short routes (shallow crossers, quick slants, etc). It looks like they're only counting literal checkdowns to RBs in this stat.

The 4.8 yards avg depth of completion in 2016 paints a much better picture of the pop warner passing of Alex Smith.

I used to hear the same sort of comments about Joe Montana. Back in the day, Dan Marino was your big armed static qb. Joe seemed to turn out ok though.

Huge difference between how offenses were back then compared to now. When Marino threw for 5k yards that was amazing, now even an above average QB can throw for 5k, Eli, Stafford...if Montana played today he would be having 5k passing yards almost every year, especially if he was on a good team.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They dont count screens, and they probably don't count short routes (shallow crossers, quick slants, etc). It looks like they're only counting literal checkdowns to RBs in this stat.

The 4.8 yards avg depth of completion in 2016 paints a much better picture of the pop warner passing of Alex Smith.

I used to hear the same sort of comments about Joe Montana. Back in the day, Dan Marino was your big armed static qb. Joe seemed to turn out ok though.

Huge difference between how offenses were back then compared to now. When Marino threw for 5k yards that was amazing, now even an above average QB can throw for 5k, Eli, Stafford...if Montana played today he would be having 5k passing yards almost every year, especially if he was on a good team.

The reference was to the average pass not his total yardage.
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They dont count screens, and they probably don't count short routes (shallow crossers, quick slants, etc). It looks like they're only counting literal checkdowns to RBs in this stat.

The 4.8 yards avg depth of completion in 2016 paints a much better picture of the pop warner passing of Alex Smith.

I used to hear the same sort of comments about Joe Montana. Back in the day, Dan Marino was your big armed static qb. Joe seemed to turn out ok though.

Huge difference between how offenses were back then compared to now. When Marino threw for 5k yards that was amazing, now even an above average QB can throw for 5k, Eli, Stafford...if Montana played today he would be having 5k passing yards almost every year, especially if he was on a good team.

The reference was to the average pass not his total yardage.

Point still stands. He would have better stats in whatever passing category you want to throw out.
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