Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City Swifties Thread

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:

He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:

He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Not saying they can "solve" the problem. There will always be bad people doing bad things. I believe they can do more. Giving the victims money from fines is better than nothing, that's for sure.

I like your thinking though, sounds a lot like Andrew Yang. But that's for another thread...

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Not saying they can "solve" the problem. There will always be bad people doing bad things. I believe they can do more. Giving the victims money from fines is better than nothing, that's for sure.

I like your thinking though, sounds a lot like Andrew Yang. But that's for another thread...

Nah, I am talking about addressing the problem more so than handing out free money. Think about it, victims are forced to stand with these guys because these guys are the bread winners. Take away this aspect and you meet the problem head on. We tend to focus all of our energy on the abuser and not enough on the victim. Victim gets nothing out of the abuser going to jail or losing their job.

So I'm talking more about restorative justice then free money handouts.

What I do notice is that when I bring up ideas to help the victim, people normally don't have much to say. But when we talk about the alleged abuser, people tend to go right to the societal solutions that have failed over and over (jails/prisons/unemployment).

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Domestic Violence and Larry Baer should not be used in the same sentence.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Domestic Violence and Larry Baer should not be used in the same sentence.

Literally LOL'd when I read his name next to the NFL players. So random and ridiculous.

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He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Domestic Violence and Larry Baer should not be used in the same sentence.

Literally LOL'd when I read his name next to the NFL players. So random and ridiculous.

This is why domestic violence continues in this society, we want to make it ok for certain people but throw the book at the ones we don't like. Very bias opinion on you guys part.

For example:

-He only yelled at her and called her a b***h so that's ok since he didn't touch her, barely touched her so that's ok, but he hit her too hard, and he broke the kids arm.

-He's from the hood and he's black so he needs to be arrested and unemployed, he's a rich white guy from the nice side of town so he shouldn't be mentioned with the others (keeps his job and no jail time or charges).

Either we care about the issue of domestic violence, or we don't. Larry Bears wife should be mentioned along with other victims since she was thrown to the ground, right?

Simple as that...

IIRC Adrian Peterson did almost the same thing.

Still a redskin.

...man that does sound racist.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He definitely doesn't have kids or a wife/girlfriend. Wtf

Hill or Me? Are you're suggesting that I somehow would be an unfit parent or partner because I believe in due process? I'll be the first to jump on the bandwagon once he's convicted of something...but until then? Nope. Seen too many innocent people falsely accused of s**t or they did something and it was exaggerated. I'll wait and see. Suspension pending investigation does the trick just fine for now in my opinion.

You would think we would have learned something from the Reuben Foster situation...

Completely different situations. Hill is on tape admitting that he punches his three year old in the chest and says his child and girlfriend should be terrified of him. Scum of the earth and in no way deserves to play in the NFL. "The law" in this case is irrelevant. The NFL is a league and business that is intertwined with the community and public. Trash like Hill has no place in it, and people defending him are extremely misguided. I'm hoping they're just arguing for argument's sake and don't actually approach their personal lives in such an unemotional and robotic manner.

Is that what you heard on that tape?

You heard him say "I punched him in the chest and broke his arm" on that tape?

Idc about Hill, but it seems like people are rushing to judge him. Let them figure it out, he's not a niner anyway. If he did hurt that kid and goes to a prison, it will be dealt with, trust me.

Jakemall posted the exact words:

Espinal: "And now somehow this investigation got brought back up, and you're about to lose your s***. So now I really want you to sit and think about it because I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people. And they said time and time again that (---) literally, (---) kept saying, 'Daddy punches me.' Which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
Hill: "Ok, so what about you? What are you gonna do?"

She described what he does, arms out to the side and punches a three year old in the chest. He said "okay." He denied breaking the kid's arm, but didn't deny punching nor using a belt. So seems pretty obvious that's the truth.

Look I have a wife and two daughters. I suppose I'm hypersensitive to these types of stories, and very protective of women in general. But in Foster's case I reserved judgment because there wasn't enough to go off of, it was all he said/she said. I'm not in the "I'm with her" crowd. But come on. This dude has a history of domestic violence, his three year old son has a broken arm, his son is saying he did it, he's admitting to punching his son in the chest while his arms are out, and he's saying that his girlfriend and son should be terrified of him. Is it only video evidence that will satisfy you?

Hill is scum of the earth, and you armchair lawyers are defending this clown.

OK, then here's what you do. Why not suspend Hill for a lifetime. And then, give the kids all of the money from every fine the NFL collects for the next 10 years. Do you think this would help the situation?

Not sure but you're on the right track. The NFL should absolutely be doing more in the domestic violence space. They should also not wait until the media and/or fans make a big deal about a situation before they act. That's probably the biggest problem in terms of how these cases are being handled.

Local law enforcement & Prisons couldn't solve the domestic violence issue so now we want the nfl to do it?

Domestic violence is a societal issue not an NFL or professional sports issue. You see Larry Bear, Ray Rice, Reuben Foster, and Adrian Peterson? Sports organizations can't solve this stuff. But they can give the resources that they collect from the players directly to the victims if they want to empower victims to move away from the abusers.

Do we care enough to give the money directly to the victims, or is this just about sports and status?

Domestic Violence and Larry Baer should not be used in the same sentence.

Literally LOL'd when I read his name next to the NFL players. So random and ridiculous.

This is why domestic violence continues in this society, we want to make it ok for certain people but throw the book at the ones we don't like. Very bias opinion on you guys part.

For example:

-He only yelled at her and called her a b***h so that's ok since he didn't touch her, barely touched her so that's ok, but he hit her too hard, and he broke the kids arm.

-He's from the hood and he's black so he needs to be arrested and unemployed, he's a rich white guy from the nice side of town so he shouldn't be mentioned with the others (keeps his job and no jail time or charges).

Either we care about the issue of domestic violence, or we don't. Larry Bears wife should be mentioned along with other victims since she was thrown to the ground, right?

Simple as that...

Sorry if I dont believe winning a tug-o-war match is in the same stratosphere as punching a toddler in the chest and breaking his arm.

But its me thats the problem.

I've seen this before...can't put my finger on it... 🤔

With hill and hunt gone who is going to turn his screen passes into TD's?