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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol that text exchange is the fakest s**t I've ever seen

Lol yeah. I think someone doesn't want her gravy train getting derailed . Pieces of s**t, both of them

This is why we need to address the true problem.

I agree. They should require all lowlife half wits in the world to get a vasectomy or their tubes tied

Then there would be no one to give ivy league schools or USC/UCLA millions of dollars to sneak their kids through.

Our society needs "lowlife half wits".

Here is the problem:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Captain-at-jail-where-Epstein-served-time-in-2008-14109610.php

Yeah, that's the reason Hill is a violent sociopath
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol that text exchange is the fakest s**t I've ever seen

Lol yeah. I think someone doesn't want her gravy train getting derailed . Pieces of s**t, both of them

This is why we need to address the true problem.

I agree. They should require all lowlife half wits in the world to get a vasectomy or their tubes tied

Then there would be no one to give ivy league schools or USC/UCLA millions of dollars to sneak their kids through.

Our society needs "lowlife half wits".

Here is the problem:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Captain-at-jail-where-Epstein-served-time-in-2008-14109610.php

Yeah, that's the reason Hill is a violent sociopath

Yes, because privileged people like Hill aren't held to the same standards as the rest of us, that was exactly my point.
Epstein & Hill get favoritism, this is why their behavior is what it is.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Lol that text exchange is the fakest s**t I've ever seen

Lol yeah. I think someone doesn't want her gravy train getting derailed . Pieces of s**t, both of them

This is why we need to address the true problem.

I agree. They should require all lowlife half wits in the world to get a vasectomy or their tubes tied

Then there would be no one to give ivy league schools or USC/UCLA millions of dollars to sneak their kids through.

Our society needs "lowlife half wits".

Here is the problem:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Captain-at-jail-where-Epstein-served-time-in-2008-14109610.php

Yeah, that's the reason Hill is a violent sociopath

Yes, because privileged people like Hill aren't held to the same standards as the rest of us, that was exactly my point.
Epstein & Hill get favoritism, this is why their behavior is what it is.


Edit: I actually misread what you wrote and agree. My apologies
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Jul 21, 2019 at 8:37 AM ]
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

That is certainly frustrating but it does not deal with the substance of the matters themselves. That is what is maddening.

Star power rules. It comes down to the fact it is all about the business of putting butts in the seats, both at the stadium and in front of TV sets. Fans don't want to see second-string guys when they could see the stars.

This just shows you that the NFL should focus on what it does best FOOTBALL, and stay out of societal matters which it is not good at. We have a court system for this and do not need the NFL to police our society. This is what opened the door for Kap take a knee during the national anthem, trying to bridge the NFL into societal matters. I think it is great when the NFL donates to issues like world hunger, education, or child development. I just don't think the NFL does crime and punishment very well due to the same bias' that our criminal justice system has.

You think the Nfl wants to be involved in this? This isnt a good look for them, its not like they want this going on. Nfl is protecting the shield, thats it. Nfl doesnt care about world hunger or some woman getting beat up. They just want to protect their image.

The NFL only does what it wants, this was Roger Goodell's agenda.

Lol. Goodell is a puppet of the owners. He works for the owners, hes employed by them, not the players. Goodell does whats best for the owners, aka, the nfl, the shield.

I guess, that's probably why we've had multiple 49ers get suspended the last several years for things which at the very least are no worse than TH is allegedly getting away with only because we're treated by the NFL hierarchy as pondscum during these bottom feeding years.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Lol. Goodell is a puppet of the owners. He works for the owners, hes employed by them, not the players. Goodell does whats best for the owners, aka, the nfl, the shield.

maybe he is a puppet of certain owners, but can't help but feel that certain franchises get the short end of the stick due to some inherent bias.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I guess, that's probably why we've had multiple 49ers get suspended the last several years for things which at the very least are no worse than TH is allegedly getting away with only because we're treated by the NFL hierarchy as pondscum during these bottom feeding years.

I guarantee you if Tyreek was a 49er, he'd have been suspended for at least 8 games minimum.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.

But the child was taken from his custody. You don't take a child away from a safe home. Hill is human trash
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.

But the child was taken from his custody. You don't take a child away from a safe home. Hill is human trash

I feel like you are getting the wrong impression here. I have said here before that if Hill really did this, he deserves the worst things in the world to happen to him. Lock him up. I am not a Hill apologist. Child abusers are the worst kind of scum.

But the child was taken away during the investigation. Said investigation didnt yield anything. Its not like the kid was permanently removed from Hill's custody.
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[ Edited by 49er-from-Yavin-IV on Jul 23, 2019 at 12:11 AM ]
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?


There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?
[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Jul 23, 2019 at 11:31 AM ]
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?


There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?

I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?


There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?

I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.

They do offer up co parenting classes, anger management, etc. In extreme cases like this where there is abuse taking place in the home, I'm not sure how effective they are . Have read studies that in cases of situational violence in marriages, co parenting and anger management have helped. With cases of intimate terrorism not so much. Bottom line is that those who are habitually violent and and psychologically abusive are most likely not going to change, it's who they are . Those are the people that should be locked up.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.

But the child was taken from his custody. You don't take a child away from a safe home. Hill is human trash

I feel like you are getting the wrong impression here. I have said here before that if Hill really did this, he deserves the worst things in the world to happen to him. Lock him up. I am not a Hill apologist. Child abusers are the worst kind of scum.

But the child was taken away during the investigation. Said investigation didnt yield anything. Its not like the kid was permanently removed from Hill's custody.

How do you think the kid broke his arm? During the recording, when Hill's girlfriend blamed it on him, he didn't defend himself. Didn't act surprised. Nothing.

I agree with you that in a court of law, Hill is innocent. But that's not the standard that the league, nor anyone with logic, can apply. It's pretty obvious given his history, his child's injury, and the recording - that Hill is POS and does not deserve to play in the NFL nor raise any child.
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