Pat Mahomes and the Kansas City Swifties Thread

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?

There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?

There aren't plenty. Most kids dont get adopted.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?

There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?

There aren't plenty. Most kids dont get adopted.

The tall and/ or fast ones get adopted .

Hill's child will probably have a good 40 time

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

I dont think Tyreek should have been suspended. Much like I dont think Ezekiel Elliot should have been suspended.

Inconsistent rulings.

Personally I think he should be banned and that that poor child should be taken from both of these lowlifes.

I agree with you, I just don't agree with the system.

So I just wanted to ask you; where would they place the child once they "take him away" from both parents?

We must think through the entire process and not just the emotional side of things. For example: Lock him up! Then what? Locking people up won't make them a better person/parent/citizen. Who would take this kid, and commit to raising him like their own?

There are plenty of loving people out there looking to adopt/foster children. Is it a perfect solution? No. Ideally a child should stay with his parents, but what if that is not the safest option?
What would you rather have happen to him? If you want to keep someone like Hill out of prison and not take the child away, what is/are your solution(s)?

There aren't plenty. Most kids dont get adopted.

Ah ok. Guess that's why there about 2 million families in the United States waiting to adopt which equates out to roughly 36 families waiting for every 1 child up for adoption

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.

But the child was taken from his custody. You don't take a child away from a safe home. Hill is human trash

I feel like you are getting the wrong impression here. I have said here before that if Hill really did this, he deserves the worst things in the world to happen to him. Lock him up. I am not a Hill apologist. Child abusers are the worst kind of scum.

But the child was taken away during the investigation. Said investigation didnt yield anything. Its not like the kid was permanently removed from Hill's custody.

How do you think the kid broke his arm? During the recording, when Hill's girlfriend blamed it on him, he didn't defend himself. Didn't act surprised. Nothing.

I agree with you that in a court of law, Hill is innocent. But that's not the standard that the league, nor anyone with logic, can apply. It's pretty obvious given his history, his child's injury, and the recording - that Hill is POS and does not deserve to play in the NFL nor raise any child.

Gonna ignore the logic comment this time.

I have no idea how the kid broke his arm. I wasnt there. And If you are drawing conclusions from the tape, you clearly didnt listen to the entire thing.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Cant do anything without proof, unfortunately.

But the child was taken from his custody. You don't take a child away from a safe home. Hill is human trash

I feel like you are getting the wrong impression here. I have said here before that if Hill really did this, he deserves the worst things in the world to happen to him. Lock him up. I am not a Hill apologist. Child abusers are the worst kind of scum.

But the child was taken away during the investigation. Said investigation didnt yield anything. Its not like the kid was permanently removed from Hill's custody.

How do you think the kid broke his arm? During the recording, when Hill's girlfriend blamed it on him, he didn't defend himself. Didn't act surprised. Nothing.

I agree with you that in a court of law, Hill is innocent. But that's not the standard that the league, nor anyone with logic, can apply. It's pretty obvious given his history, his child's injury, and the recording - that Hill is POS and does not deserve to play in the NFL nor raise any child.

Gonna ignore the logic comment this time.

I have no idea how the kid broke his arm. I wasnt there. And If you are drawing conclusions from the tape, you clearly didnt listen to the entire thing.

I think you're misreading the logic comment. Given our history, I understand lol. I didn't mean it as an attack nor insult, simply stating the obvious - neither we as fans nor the league are bound by the limitations of "the law," so using that bar as the basis for one's judgement of Hill seems disingenuous at best.

I listened to the entire thing. By itself it wasn't some damning thing. Again, take his history and his child's injury into account as well. If you're going to ignore his history and hide behind "the law" regarding the video, then you at least have to theorize what happened to his kid's arm.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.

At the age of that child, it is quite easy to find a good adoption situation. Ethnicity used to make more difference than it does now. Most adoption agencies will try to keep a child with their race/ethnicity but that is often not possible.

Once a child reaches 10 years old it becomes much harder to find a good home for them.

Originally posted by Furlow:
I think you're misreading the logic comment. Given our history, I understand lol. I didn't mean it as an attack nor insult, simply stating the obvious - neither we as fans nor the league are bound by the limitations of "the law," so using that bar as the basis for one's judgement of Hill seems disingenuous at best.

I listened to the entire thing. By itself it wasn't some damning thing. Again, take his history and his child's injury into account as well. If you're going to ignore his history and hide behind "the law" regarding the video, then you at least have to theorize what happened to his kid's arm.

Ok, fair.

I have said a few times that I believe child abusers are the scum of the earth. Would never go to bat for someone who hit children. All I am saying is there is a ton of doubt that Tyreek did any of this based on the fact that it seems clear that his girl was trying to smear him. So while there is definitely a good chance Hill did what he was accused of, there is also a good chance he didnt. We will likely never know for sure. As long as the kid is safe, thats all I really care about.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.

At the age of that child, it is quite easy to find a good adoption situation. Ethnicity used to make more difference than it does now. Most adoption agencies will try to keep a child with their race/ethnicity but that is often not possible.

Once a child reaches 10 years old it becomes much harder to find a good home for them.

This is the stuff that can happen when you place kid into foster care:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Father-And-Son-Arrested-For-Allegedly-Abusing-14223276.php

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.

At the age of that child, it is quite easy to find a good adoption situation. Ethnicity used to make more difference than it does now. Most adoption agencies will try to keep a child with their race/ethnicity but that is often not possible.

Once a child reaches 10 years old it becomes much harder to find a good home for them.

This is the stuff that can happen when you place kid into foster care:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Father-And-Son-Arrested-For-Allegedly-Abusing-14223276.php

Believe me, I have seen both sides of the foster care issue.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I don't know, that is why I am not making these statements. Look at the stats on Foster kids, that is scary!

I think if I had to make a decision, I would probably try to work with the family so that this doesn't happen again.

Teach both parents: Co-parenting skills, anger management, family counseling therapy? I would probably try all of this before I remove the kid.
IDK the answer, but I know that taking the kid and hoping he is paired with a loving family via adoption is a risky deal and should be a last resort.
Especially for a African American kid.

At the age of that child, it is quite easy to find a good adoption situation. Ethnicity used to make more difference than it does now. Most adoption agencies will try to keep a child with their race/ethnicity but that is often not possible.

Once a child reaches 10 years old it becomes much harder to find a good home for them.

This is the stuff that can happen when you place kid into foster care:

https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Father-And-Son-Arrested-For-Allegedly-Abusing-14223276.php

Believe me, I have seen both sides of the foster care issue.

Yes, there are two sides to the system.

This dude is so badass. Will go down as an all time great. Just unreal.

Overrated

Reid has finally got the QB he needs.

Originally posted by sacniner:
This dude is so badass. Will go down as an all time great. Just unreal.

MVP in year 2!

Mitch punted a 62 yarder and pinned KC at the 3, but nobody noticed because the announce team was too busy blowing Merhomes' weenus .

F*ck that bert and ernie ass dude to the fullest.