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  • FL9er
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Well then:

Clelin Ferrell, DE Clemson
"Most Clemson defensive ends are overrated, and I think Ferrell is too. I like him because he plays hard, but he is not anywhere near a top-10 pick. I don't think he is a first-round player, because those Clemson defensive ends bust all the time. [Bills defensive end] Shaq Lawson went 19th overall, and he's been a complete bust. Ferrell is a similar player, similar athlete, but he plays harder. I gave Shaq Lawson a fourth round grade, Ferrell is a little better than him. But from the sheer tools, they are very similar. There are certain schools where positions have a high bust rate and all Clemson defensive ends are productive, they get a ton of unblocked production in that scheme no matter who they line up there. I like Clellin a lot more than some of those guys and I think he is going to be a good solid pro, but you don't draft a good solid pro in the top 10."
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Originally posted by FL9er:
Well then:

Clelin Ferrell, DE Clemson
"Most Clemson defensive ends are overrated, and I think Ferrell is too. I like him because he plays hard, but he is not anywhere near a top-10 pick. I don't think he is a first-round player, because those Clemson defensive ends bust all the time. [Bills defensive end] Shaq Lawson went 19th overall, and he's been a complete bust. Ferrell is a similar player, similar athlete, but he plays harder. I gave Shaq Lawson a fourth round grade, Ferrell is a little better than him. But from the sheer tools, they are very similar. There are certain schools where positions have a high bust rate and all Clemson defensive ends are productive, they get a ton of unblocked production in that scheme no matter who they line up there. I like Clellin a lot more than some of those guys and I think he is going to be a good solid pro, but you don't draft a good solid pro in the top 10."

A lot of unblocked production, exactly what you see in his highlight video.
Originally posted by FL9er:
Well then:

Clelin Ferrell, DE Clemson
"Most Clemson defensive ends are overrated, and I think Ferrell is too. I like him because he plays hard, but he is not anywhere near a top-10 pick. I don't think he is a first-round player, because those Clemson defensive ends bust all the time. [Bills defensive end] Shaq Lawson went 19th overall, and he's been a complete bust. Ferrell is a similar player, similar athlete, but he plays harder. I gave Shaq Lawson a fourth round grade, Ferrell is a little better than him. But from the sheer tools, they are very similar. There are certain schools where positions have a high bust rate and all Clemson defensive ends are productive, they get a ton of unblocked production in that scheme no matter who they line up there. I like Clellin a lot more than some of those guys and I think he is going to be a good solid pro, but you don't draft a good solid pro in the top 10."

Can you link who you're quoting please. Thanks
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 23, 2018 at 4:51 AM ]
Out of the top pass rushers in this draft class, I am the least sold on him. Seems like a decent strongside DE prospect but nowhere near the explosive edge rusher that this defense demands.



Also as others have mentioned, Clemson DEs haven't made too much of an impact in the NFL lately.


Da'Quan Bowers was a 2nd rounder in 2011, had seven total sacks in five NFL seasons.

Andre Branch was a 2nd rounder in Tampa. He's been a solid DE but has a career high of 6 sacks in a season.


Vic Beasley was a Top 10 pick in 2015. He had a monster year in 2016 but other than that has been a subpar player.


Shaq Lawson was a 1st rounder in 2016. Has a career high of 4 sacks in any season. Has been a disappointment.


Kevin Dodd was a 2nd rounder in 2016, is now out of the league.
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[ Edited by ChaunceyGardner on Nov 24, 2018 at 3:31 PM ]
On now - S. Carolina vs. Clemson just started.
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His entire pass rush strategy is predicated on jumping the snap, so either he has the tackle back on his heels or the offense gets a free 5 yards.
They plug in anyone into that position and they produce. That dline eats up blockers and he gets the least attention
Say what you want about ACC as a whole, but they have tons of talented individual players:

I feel like if we miss Bosa I'd almost rather trade down and get Allen/polite vs just draft Ferrell
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I feel like if we miss Bosa I'd almost rather trade down and get Allen/polite vs just draft Ferrell

Ferrell is my #4 right now and its a big jump from 3 to 4 IMO. He scares me.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I feel like if we miss Bosa I'd almost rather trade down and get Allen/polite vs just draft Ferrell

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