Clelin Ferrell DE Raiders

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
He's going to get the opportunity to pin his ears back in this half, I want to see burst, bend and disruption.

This guy simply isn't a top 10 pick in my opinion.

I agree. Dont see the explosiveness to be a great edge rusher and to make the 49ers way better on defense. Good player but I am not sure he will be special.

i'd take a consistently good d-lineman at this point

Not at #2 or 3 in the draft

Originally posted by ads_2006:
i'd take a consistently good d-lineman at this point

The 2nd pick in the draft better be better than just "consistently good". The Niners need a game changer and I dont think Ferrell is that kind of player. If a team wants to move up I think the smart move is for the Niners to get extra picks and get someone like Polite, Burns, or Allen if he was still available later in the first.

I didn't see the first half but in the second he looked to be loafing a bit. Hope that was it- and the moment wasn't too big for him- cause he was getting locked up pretty easily by the lt one on one.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ads_2006:

i'd take a consistently good d-lineman at this point

The 2nd pick in the draft better be better than just "consistently good". The Niners need a game changer and I dont think Ferrell is that kind of player. If a team wants to move up I think the smart move is for the Niners to get extra picks and get someone like Polite, Burns, or Allen if he was still available later in the first.

This. Going with consistently good but not elite at 2 is Solomon Thomas all over again. Unless one of the edges really comes on in the offseason we need to trade out of 2/3. Even if it's not total trade chart value (imagine 2 will hold a lot but 3 won't) we have to trade down. There just isn't a player of major need that's a value at 3. Even if we just got a 2 and 3 this year to drop from 3 to 10 I would take it and gladly go with Allen/Polite/Burns at that spot and trade back up in the first for a value pick that's falling. That way we hit on our biggest need with an impact player and get a second impact player (whoever happens to fall). That's 2 immediate starters, one at a position of major need with 1 pick.

Originally posted by ads_2006:

i'd take a consistentlygood d-lineman at this point

At this point? Did Buckner suddenly retire and no one told me?

Originally posted by Bitplayer:
I didn't see the first half but in the second he looked to be loafing a bit. Hope that was it and the moment wasn't too big for him.

He's a national champion who was the Defensive MVP of the Fiesta Bowl CFP Semifinal the year Clemson won it all. He's won 4 straight conference titles and is going to his third national title game as a starter. I don't think the moment is too big for him. Clemson gave up 3 points on defense and totally dominated the line of scrimmage.

Quinnen at 2 and this guy in the 2nd

Originally posted by rathman4481:
Quinnen at 2 and this guy in the 2nd

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
i'd take a consistentlygood d-lineman at this point

At this point? Did Buckner suddenly retire and no one told me?

exactly my point

right now, we have 1/4 good d-lineman

with this we'd be 2/4

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
i'd take a consistently good d-lineman at this point

The 2nd pick in the draft better be better than just "consistently good". The Niners need a game changer and I dont think Ferrell is that kind of player. If a team wants to move up I think the smart move is for the Niners to get extra picks and get someone like Polite, Burns, or Allen if he was still available later in the first.

i agree, but I don't think there is a game changer for us in this draft aside from Bosa.

TPBH, option #1 with the current draft standings, would be to move down in the draft, but idk with this draft class.

Originally posted by ads_2006:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
i'd take a consistently good d-lineman at this point

The 2nd pick in the draft better be better than just "consistently good". The Niners need a game changer and I dont think Ferrell is that kind of player. If a team wants to move up I think the smart move is for the Niners to get extra picks and get someone like Polite, Burns, or Allen if he was still available later in the first.

i agree, but I don't think there is a game changer for us in this draft aside from Bosa.

TPBH, option #1 with the current draft standings, would be to move down in the draft, but idk with this draft class.

I think Q Williams is a game changer for any team he joins. My hope is that Arizona falls in love with him or another team behind us does and wants to give up picks to move up. He seems to clearly be the 1st or 2nd best player in this draft and if the Niners didnt have Buckner I would be all for taking him with our pick.

Watching Quinnen Williams after watching Ferrell makes me smh. I need more from you, Mr. Ferrell.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Watching Quinnen Williams after watching Ferrell makes me smh. I need more from you, Mr. Ferrell.

Yup. But I think Ferrell removed himself from the discussion over the course of this season. Not even a top-5 edge rusher let alone a top 5 pick.

HAVEN'T I TOLD YOU ALL THIS BEFORE??

THE GUY DOESN'T BELONG ... HE AINT TOP 10!!

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Yup. But I think Ferrell removed himself from the discussion over the course of this season. Not even a top-5 edge rusher let alone a top 5 pick.

First team AA for the second year in a row, 14.5 sacks, named his conference's DPOY, anchoring a defense going back to the national championship game at 14-0. Man, some of you guys are just looking for unicorns that don't exist.