Clelin Ferrell DE Raiders

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

I think the Clellin Ferrel clip is the more impressive rep of the two above

Even though he completely guessed the snap count? Better hope he never plays against Aaron Rodgers!

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

I think the Clellin Ferrel clip is the more impressive rep of the two above

Why? He doesn't look explosive at all in that clip. He just timed the snap count and started moving before everyone else. Clark showed a lot more explosiveness. Neither one showed much ability to bend. Ferrell does a better job keeping the OLineman's hands off him but Clark is up against an NFL LT.

20 mins worth of film

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
I just don't see how this dude will help our pass rush?

I mean that's kinda funny lol

Do he #ManScape doe

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Why? He doesn't look explosive at all in that clip. He just timed the snap count and started moving before everyone else. Clark showed a lot more explosiveness. Neither one showed much ability to bend. Ferrell does a better job keeping the OLineman's hands off him but Clark is up against an NFL LT.

Obviously, we all know who is Clark is, and how good of a player he is. But if they were both prospects, and this was the only clip I had to evaluate both off of (as we are only comparing the quality or impressiveness of each individual rep), I think that Clark's rep shows in what ways he may potentially lose in NFL, where as Ferrels shows in what ways he may potentially win in the NFL.

Clark displays elite explosiveness, but the lack of flexibility to capitalize.

Ferrel shows a relative lack of explosion, but the effective snap count, adequate burst, nuance, balance through contact, hand fighting, and ability to get his hips and toes pointed towards the quarterback, to compensate.

You are correct tho that the quality of LT does have to be taken into consideration, but I was more looking at how the defensive player performed, irregardless of the offensive player (which is admittedly not a fool proof way to "scout").

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:


Why? He doesn't look explosive at all in that clip. He just timed the snap count and started moving before everyone else. Clark showed a lot more explosiveness. Neither one showed much ability to bend. Ferrell does a better job keeping the OLineman's hands off him but Clark is up against an NFL LT.

Obviously, we all know who is Clark is, and how good of a player he is. But if they were both prospects, and this was the only clip I had to evaluate both off of (as we are only comparing the quality or impressiveness of each individual rep), I think that Clark's rep shows in what ways he may potentially lose in NFL, where as Ferrels shows in what ways he may potentially win in the NFL.

Clark displays elite explosiveness, but the lack of flexibility to capitalize.

Ferrel shows a relative lack of explosion, but the effective snap count, adequate burst, nuance, balance through contact, hand fighting, and ability to get his hips and toes pointed towards the quarterback, to compensate.

You are correct tho that the quality of LT does have to be taken into consideration, but I was more looking at how the defensive player performed, irregardless of the offensive player (which is admittedly not a fool proof way to "scout").

It is SOOOOO much harder to jump the snap count without getting caught offside in the NFL (remember Ahmad Brooks?), so that's a huge negative to me. Clark's rep was sigificantly better, IMO, and I'm a Ferrell fan.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's 3rd and 19 so NC State is going swing pass all the way but I still like to watch Ferrell in full attack mode up field with a pass rush plan pic.twitter.com/dlsxtTPUWS

— Connor Rogers (@ConnorJRogers) January 18, 2019

I appreciate little things like having the awareness to see all that space inside.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

It's 3rd and 19 so NC State is going swing pass all the way but I still like to watch Ferrell in full attack mode up field with a pass rush plan pic.twitter.com/dlsxtTPUWS

— Connor Rogers (@ConnorJRogers) January 18, 2019

That rep is a straight thing of beauty

I like my edge players slightly crazy.

I would take this kid with the #2 overall pick. He might not have Von Miller's bendability, but he knows how to win consistently. I'll take that.

Ferrell and Ferguson were THE 2 MOST CONSISTENT Edge defenders the past 3 years of college. Bosa and Allen are one hit wonders. Bosa last year and Allen this year.

Call me crazy, but I'll say Ferrell will have the better career than Bosa and Allen.

Originally posted by Heroism:
I like my edge players slightly crazy.

If he lands with us, I would hope he does that kinda s**t when we play in Cheattle (if we're winning)...looking straight at Cheat Carroll

Originally posted by LVJay:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I like my edge players slightly crazy.

If he lands with us, I would hope he does that kinda s**t when we play in Cheattle (if we're winning)...looking straight at Cheat Carroll

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

I would take this kid with the #2 overall pick. He might not have Von Miller's bendability, but he knows how to win consistently. I'll take that.

Ferrell and Ferguson were THE 2 MOST CONSISTENT Edge defenders the past 3 years of college. Bosa and Allen are one hit wonders. Bosa last year and Allen this year.

Call me crazy, but I'll say Ferrell will have the better career than Bosa and Allen.

You crraaaaaaaazy

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
I would take this kid with the #2 overall pick. He might not have Von Miller's bendability, but he knows how to win consistently. I'll take that.

Ferrell and Ferguson were THE 2 MOST CONSISTENT Edge defenders the past 3 years of college. Bosa and Allen are one hit wonders. Bosa last year and Allen this year.

Call me crazy, but I'll say Ferrell will have the better career than Bosa and Allen.

You crraaaaaaaazy

What if he turns out to be right doe?