Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
People are so eager to bash a player before he ever steps foot on the field, it amazes me

I think it's more about not seeing what he brings to this offense during preseason. He got hurt and they shut him down.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Guess I have blinders on then because I'm not ready to call McKinnon a waste of money yet. Big difference in your above points is that Morris had a couple seasons in Shannys offense as the lead back, McKinnon hasn't even played a game yet.

It's a bit premature imo. I don't think he's gonna be some monster but I'll take 1,500 total yards. I bet people weren't to hot on Goodwin when he first got here either.

Exactly. Hell even if it's 1500 recieving yards that's still worth it.

Originally posted by NJNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
People are so eager to bash a player before he ever steps foot on the field, it amazes me

I think it's more about not seeing what he brings to this offense during preseason. He got hurt and they shut him down.

When he was in, it was only for 3 carries and with s**t blocking. Apparently that was enough for our fans/scouts to see.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by NJNiner:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

People are so eager to bash a player before he ever steps foot on the field, it amazes me

I think it's more about not seeing what he brings to this offense during preseason. He got hurt and they shut him down.

When he was in, it was only for 3 carries and with s**t blocking. Apparently that was enough for our fans/scouts to see.

Dude has 58 games for us to look at. Two 100 yard rushing games in his career and none ion the past three seasons is a reasonable reason for people to not know what he brings and question if he can be our Freeman.

If he's our RB1, he's not going to make it the entire season.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Dude has 58 games for us to look at. Two 100 yard rushing games in his career and none ion the past three seasons is a reasonable reason for people to not know what he brings and question if he can be our Freeman.

How many games did he start?

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

NY likes to blame Minn line for all Jets shortcomings. I have been arguing they are not as bad as he makes them seem since the day we signed Jet it seems.

Regardless, every other back in the system there has outperformed Jet.

I'm not going to put the blame solely on the MIN OL, but their y/a the last 2 years were 3.2 and 3.9....
Can you also elaborate on your "every RB has outperformed him" assertion? That doesn't appear to be the case.

The bummer with jet is all we got to see was a few runs to the outside get stuffed. Then was hurt.

Overall we had no rg this preseason. Till Alf steppes in

How is Jerick "prop plane" McKinnon doing these days.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I'd be happy with that too and I am pretty sure that is what Kyle is expecting from him.

For the money he was paid. that is exactly what is expected of him. no jet excuses

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

The comparison to the Goodwin signing is a poor one at best.

Goodwin was signed to a prove it deal. I was also very high on the signing because the numbers he did put up were as a dual athlete, and while not being able to even take the regular supplements NFL athletes take. He was putting himself into a severe handicap by being a dual athlete, and the cupboard was severely bare at WR. He was also a second signing to Garcon, who many envisioned being the feature WR last season.

We see what happened when he was able to fully commit to football.

Jet on the other hand was signed to top 5 RB money after failing miserably to snag the lead role for the team that drafted him. We then passed on drafting another RB in an extremely deep draft class, and went with Breida and Williams, which seems to have been a mistake now in hindsight, and thus had to sign a veteran RB that we are severely lucky to have even had available on the market this late into the off season.

McKinnon is basically getting $18 million in true guaranteed money stop acting like he's getting $30 million. If he balls out he gets all the cash. Fournette is making more guaranteed cash on his rookie deal, Mccaffrey is making the same guaranteed cash.

And yes it's like Goodwin, everyone in here was all negative Nancy when they signed him...boo hoo he's not 6-5 and 230 lbs. he can't catch balls or run routes. He's just fast...That's all I heard. No one even gave him a chance to be anything. Wrong.

So what's the problem if McKinnon goes for 1,500 all-purpose yards we got Morris to pound the rock when that's what is called for and we have McKinnon for everything else.

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

NY likes to blame Minn line for all Jets shortcomings. I have been arguing they are not as bad as he makes them seem since the day we signed Jet it seems.

Regardless, every other back in the system there has outperformed Jet.

So you're telling me a offensive line plays no part in a run game? Minn was the 30th ranked run blocking OL in 2016 and 20th in 2017 according to football outisiders...they were 10th in 2015 and 13th in 2014 when he had good YPC numbers.

I don't think it's all on the line, his vision isn't elite and he's not breaking a million tackles. His skill set is hot fire for OZ and his pass catching ability is top notch. He's basically Mccaffrey whom a lot of people wanted us to draft last yr.

All I'm saying is I'm gonna see what he does with this OL, QB and system before calling him dogs**t. That's fair no?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
The comparison to the Goodwin signing is a poor one at best.

Goodwin was signed to a prove it deal. I was also very high on the signing because the numbers he did put up were as a dual athlete, and while not being able to even take the regular supplements NFL athletes take. He was putting himself into a severe handicap by being a dual athlete, and the cupboard was severely bare at WR. He was also a second signing to Garcon, who many envisioned being the feature WR last season.

We see what happened when he was able to fully commit to football.

Jet on the other hand was signed to top 5 RB money after failing miserably to snag the lead role for the team that drafted him. We then passed on drafting another RB in an extremely deep draft class, and went with Breida and Williams, which seems to have been a mistake now in hindsight, and thus had to sign a veteran RB that we are severely lucky to have even had available on the market this late into the off season.

McKinnon is basically getting $18 million in true guaranteed money stop acting like he's getting $30 million. If he balls out he gets all the cash. Fournette is making more guaranteed cash on his rookie deal, Mccaffrey is making the same guaranteed cash.

And yes it's like Goodwin, everyone in here was all negative Nancy when they signed him...boo hoo he's not 6-5 and 230 lbs. he can't catch balls or run routes. He's just fast...That's all I heard. No one even gave him a chance to be anything. Wrong.

So what's the problem if McKinnon goes for 1,500 all-purpose yards we got Morris to pound the rock when that's what is called for and we have McKinnon for everything else.

Plenty of posters thought it was a good pick up if he could just stay healthy.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Dude has 58 games for us to look at. Two 100 yard rushing games in his career and none ion the past three seasons is a reasonable reason for people to not know what he brings and question if he can be our Freeman.

Goodwin had like 40 games for us to look at as well. 1 100 yard game in 4 yrs then came here has 3 and goes for more yards in one season here then all his seasons in buffalo combine.

I don't think McKinnon is as good as freeman. Freeman has better vision. Gotta look at yards per touch with McKinnon cause he's gonna be used all over the place. 6.1 YPT last yr, that's higher than guys like Bell. His career YPT is right on par with Bell/freeman.

Kyle wants a RB that can create explosive plays and that's exactly what the Jet is. Having Morris and Brieda is a bonus. If our line blocks like they did last preseason game we will be looking good IMO

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by IdahoNiner:

The comparison to the Goodwin signing is a poor one at best.

Goodwin was signed to a prove it deal. I was also very high on the signing because the numbers he did put up were as a dual athlete, and while not being able to even take the regular supplements NFL athletes take. He was putting himself into a severe handicap by being a dual athlete, and the cupboard was severely bare at WR. He was also a second signing to Garcon, who many envisioned being the feature WR last season.

We see what happened when he was able to fully commit to football.

Jet on the other hand was signed to top 5 RB money after failing miserably to snag the lead role for the team that drafted him. We then passed on drafting another RB in an extremely deep draft class, and went with Breida and Williams, which seems to have been a mistake now in hindsight, and thus had to sign a veteran RB that we are severely lucky to have even had available on the market this late into the off season.

McKinnon is basically getting $18 million in true guaranteed money stop acting like he's getting $30 million. If he balls out he gets all the cash. Fournette is making more guaranteed cash on his rookie deal, Mccaffrey is making the same guaranteed cash.

And yes it's like Goodwin, everyone in here was all negative Nancy when they signed him...boo hoo he's not 6-5 and 230 lbs. he can't catch balls or run routes. He's just fast...That's all I heard. No one even gave him a chance to be anything. Wrong.

So what's the problem if McKinnon goes for 1,500 all-purpose yards we got Morris to pound the rock when that's what is called for and we have McKinnon for everything else.

No problem at all of Jet gets 1500 yards. 1000 total yards would be a disappointment.