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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lynch didn't sign McKinnon coming off a major knee injury , so I am not seeing the correlation whatsoever . How is it Lynch's fault that he tore his ACL in practice?

see,. a head start on giving lynch cover when we probably end up cutting this guy

So you do blame Lynch for McKinnon tearing his ACL. Got it

no,, but he ignored the flags on him when they said durability is a question and went and over paid him.. its stuff like this and extending ward and ignoring the pass rush while actually making it worse is the stuff that makes me question the best gm in fb

I keep hearing the durability thing, but that's b******t. People who didn't like the signing started saying that because of his size.
Not going to touch Ward lol
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Niners816:
How is durability a question. He missed 1 game in the last 3 seasons?

he was not worth the money he signed for, credit to him for not missing games but the red flags were there. also it is interesting how the calf thing all of a sudden became an acl thing. makes you wonder on a bunch of different levels. but i forgot. we are just fine. no big deal,

What red flags?
[ Edited by Niners816 on Sep 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM ]
Originally posted by Baldie:
I liked the signing but I questioned his durability. He seemed really fragile. I get that in open space he's probably a nightmare for coverage guys but when you need to get 3 or 4 yards on the ground, he looks like he can easily be knocked back. Morris has that ruggedness to get those yards on the ground but not sure how his catching ability is. When you start subbing RB's to do what they do best (Mckinnon - catch out of the backfield / Morris - run on the ground), defenses will catch on. We need a RB who can do both efficiently.

The Pats have been doing that exact thing for years. He added an element that we seriously lacked. Hyde was targeted plenty and he just couldn't do much with it. Now we're back to Brieda (questionable, but improved hands) and Morris, more of the bell cow you mentioned.

We needed a receiver out of the backfield and that's exactly what he was brought in to do. Kyle is going to rotate guys regardless. We just need our receiver and I hope Brieda can be that guy. Morris has never shown that ability.

The money was the real sticking point with McKinnon. That's where all the dislike stems from. About him being too fragile to carry the ball 20+ times, I don't think that was ever the plan. Lynch and Kyle were trying to buy a guy that was dangerous in space and a chain mover, not a bellcow. He would've been a key part of the rotation, not a franchise RB.

Continuing with the money aspect, McKinnon probably won't be in the top-10 after another year of RBs getting paid and surely far removed after another year. He's making 7.5M/yr. Duke Johnson and Hyde both signed for over 5M/yr. Deon Lewis is right there too. We decided (thanks to the Jets overbidding everyone) to pay a little more for a guy we thought would have a major impact; whereas, we have Ward who makes more and won't contribute much and surely won't have an impact. In 2 years and assuming McKinnon is still here, he'll be making half what the elite RBs are making and less than plenty of mediocre backs. We struck early in the rising RB market, got a 4-yr deal, and front loaded it for the future.
Originally posted by LVJay:
Prior to his recent injuries (calf strain, torn ACL) here, he had back and ankle injuries when he played for Minny.

I hope he doesn't become our Jimmie Ward of offense

It's not like he was missing many games though.
Originally posted by cciowa:
no,, but he ignored the flags on him when they said durability is a question and went and over paid him.. its stuff like this and extending ward and ignoring the pass rush while actually making it worse is the stuff that makes me question the best gm in fb

"They"?

Fans said he had durability issues. That was based on their extensive research in (1) using Google to learn who he was and (2) reading his height and weight on his player profile.
Originally posted by cciowa:
no,, but he ignored the flags on him when they said durability is a question and went and over paid him.. its stuff like this and extending ward and ignoring the pass rush while actually making it worse is the stuff that makes me question the best gm in fb

Who said durability was an issue? Guys on this Forum? Because these so called red flags never manifested themselves in actually missing real games.

I also love your straw man argument there of "questioning the best GM in football". Show me where anyone has called Lynch the best guy in football.
Peterson is a freak, but I hope McKinnon sees the same doctor that did Adrian Peterson's ACL because AP came back stronger than before.
[ Edited by Heroism on Sep 2, 2018 at 10:39 AM ]
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Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Prior to his recent injuries (calf strain, torn ACL) here, he had back and ankle injuries when he played for Minny.

I hope he doesn't become our Jimmie Ward of offense

It's not like he was missing many games though.

True...and I hope this is not the start of it.

I was so looking forward to him getting us first down, TDs, Shanny utilizing the hell out of him, gnawing off Suh's ankles and picking up blitzes.
Next man up, Alf has us covered, next year, we can unleash the jet, for now he's in the hanger.
Originally posted by LVJay:
True...and I hope this is not the start of it.

I was so looking forward to him getting us first down, TDs, Shanny utilizing the hell out of him, gnawing off Suh's ankles and picking up blitzes.

If Suh is bearing down on Jimmy I hope Juice is in there to take that bullet.
Obviously, the Niners would rather have McKiinnon playing rather than sitting on the shelf for a year. This is a significant blow to the offense Shanahan wanted to run when they signed him. I don't agree with the doomsayers who think we never should have signed McKinnon or that he was injury prone to begin with. The Niners paid a steep price, but this guy was the best fit for what they wanted their #1 RB to be. I'm hoping they go out and find another RB to take his roster spot, because I think most Niners fans would agree, Joe Williams is not the guy you want on this roster after his 2nd lackluster showing in training camp. I think Morris and Breida are a decent combo for now, but this injury may have delayed the Niners return to the playoffs for one more year.
Sucks. never like to see a guy get hurt.

Hope he can recover 100%. Never wish any ill will towards anyone, just was not sold on him as the answer at RB. Hopefully he can recover and contribute one day. I did want to see him catching passes and blocking on third downs. Just wasn't sold on him as a runner.

Morris is #1 now, and honestly thats for the better for the run game. We will be fine in the passing game. Jimmy has plenty of options.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Peterson is a freak, but I hope McKinnon sees the same doctor that did Adrian Peterson's ACL because AP came back stronger than before.

ACLs aren't the career killers they use to be. They are pretty much like Tommy John surgeries in baseball.
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Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by LVJay:
True...and I hope this is not the start of it.

I was so looking forward to him getting us first down, TDs, Shanny utilizing the hell out of him, gnawing off Suh's ankles and picking up blitzes.

If Suh is bearing down on Jimmy I hope Juice is in there to take that bullet.

Oh hell yeah, at the proper angle, Juice (got size) could lay a vicious pop on Suh
Originally posted by Heroism:
Peterson is a freak, but I hope McKinnon sees the same doctor that did Adrian Peterson's ACL because AP came back stronger than before.

Shoot him up with stem cells, steroids, HGH. Let's get it.
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