Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Dare I say it...how about Joe Williams coming back? I already dislike Ward and AA as weak minded players that can't seem to stay on the field consistently. However:

1) He knows Shanahan's system, which apparently is a big issue in bringing in a player on short notice
2) The coaching staff thought he was going to compete well this year and was just derailed by a couple of smaller injuries that should heal soon
3) It wasn't like McKinnon looked any better running the ball than Joe Williams in the early pre-season games, so it might have been the line that was the issue and Joe might actually be decent if given the chance with the starting OL.
4) We've already spent all this time keeping him on the team, so what do we have to lose?

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by PacTiger:
Mckinnon said he'll be back better than ever. Can't wait for his 400 plus yards to hit our 2019 stat sheet.

I think he was always gonna be more about the 50 catches out of the backfield. I had hoped for a stat line of 650-700 yards rushing and 60-70 catches for over 600 yards. So that would have been like a 1300 yards total yardage type back.

for him to get 60-70 catches, he would have to be the 1st down 2nd down and 3rd down back. with Morris and Breida, he probably would've only played about 40-50% of the snaps.

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Mckinnon said he'll be back better than ever. Can't wait for his 400 plus yards to hit our 2019 stat sheet.

lol why do you hate him so much? i dont get it

Originally posted by MasterBlaster:

Dare I say it...how about Joe Williams coming back? I already dislike Ward and AA as weak minded players that can't seem to stay on the field consistently. However:

1) He knows Shanahan's system, which apparently is a big issue in bringing in a player on short notice
2) The coaching staff thought he was going to compete well this year and was just derailed by a couple of smaller injuries that should heal soon
3) It wasn't like McKinnon looked any better running the ball than Joe Williams in the early pre-season games, so it might have been the line that was the issue and Joe might actually be decent if given the chance with the starting OL.
4) We've already spent all this time keeping him on the team, so what do we have to lose?

I think Joe would be the front runner for the spot. I'm sure they have a few guys theyre scouting that got cut and their doing some due diligence. Unless there was some big falling out, Joe would be a seamless transition back to the roster. He still needs to heal up, but he makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

He'll be a massive loss but most fans won't even realise, everyone who saw him run the option route in the first week of camp and thought, cha-ching, knows what I'm talking about.

Stop. You are making me even more depressed

ONCE MORE....

OVERRATED !!!

WASTE OF OUR MILLIONS !!!

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Mckinnon said he'll be back better than ever. Can't wait for his 400 plus yards to hit our 2019 stat sheet.

I think he was always gonna be more about the 50 catches out of the backfield. I had hoped for a stat line of 650-700 yards rushing and 60-70 catches for over 600 yards. So that would have been like a 1300 yards total yardage type back.

for him to get 60-70 catches, he would have to be the 1st down 2nd down and 3rd down back. with Morris and Breida, he probably would've only played about 40-50% of the snaps.

It's very feasible. In clear passing situations he'd be on the field. He's also get plenty drives where he's the guy. James White in NE pulls it off and he's not an every down guy.

Originally posted by 9moon:

ONCE MORE....

OVERRATED !!!

WASTE OF OUR MILLIONS !!!

He hasn't played a down for us and you're already giving up on him. Not surprised. The hate is thick in here.

AINT no hate brah... just my personal opinion.. ...

Just last year, I did not agree on giving our FB all that millions either... and as good as he was or he is, did we not over pay the guy???

We had a similar talented back up this year and saw him all pre-season... #46 looked good, it makes me wonder what our FB can do that this kid could not....

as for the JET... whatever nickname or who ever he is... I don't hate the guy, I just didn't like the amount of money we gave to him??

Is that wrong??

What's he ever done to deserve that??

Originally posted by strickac:
The Pats have been doing that exact thing for years. He added an element that we seriously lacked. Hyde was targeted plenty and he just couldn't do much with it. Now we're back to Brieda (questionable, but improved hands) and Morris, more of the bell cow you mentioned.

We needed a receiver out of the backfield and that's exactly what he was brought in to do. Kyle is going to rotate guys regardless. We just need our receiver and I hope Brieda can be that guy. Morris has never shown that ability.

The money was the real sticking point with McKinnon. That's where all the dislike stems from. About him being too fragile to carry the ball 20+ times, I don't think that was ever the plan. Lynch and Kyle were trying to buy a guy that was dangerous in space and a chain mover, not a bellcow. He would've been a key part of the rotation, not a franchise RB.

Continuing with the money aspect, McKinnon probably won't be in the top-10 after another year of RBs getting paid and surely far removed after another year. He's making 7.5M/yr. Duke Johnson and Hyde both signed for over 5M/yr. Deon Lewis is right there too. We decided (thanks to the Jets overbidding everyone) to pay a little more for a guy we thought would have a major impact; whereas, we have Ward who makes more and won't contribute much and surely won't have an impact. In 2 years and assuming McKinnon is still here, he'll be making half what the elite RBs are making and less than plenty of mediocre backs. We struck early in the rising RB market, got a 4-yr deal, and front loaded it for the future.

Good post.

You're correct about McKinnon being a hybrid adds an element that was lacking. No defense could game plan for him because he had the ability to take it to the house either on a run or a pass. He would give Kyle an option on every play - just like Kyle wants. He was likely to get 16-20 touches/game with 4-6 of them being receptions. Breida/Morris would share another 12-15. That is the way Kyle operates it.

On the money side, in terms of guaranteed money, he is #10 right now. Next year he will likely drop to 13-15, depending on what top rookie RBs receive. After that, who knows? The point is, he is only over-paid if one considers him strictly a running back. He is not that. He is more. Too bad we won't see it until next season.

Originally posted by 9moon:

AINT no hate brah... just my personal opinion.. ...

Just last year, I did not agree on giving our FB all that millions either... and as good as he was or he is, did we not over pay the guy???

We had a similar talented back up this year and saw him all pre-season... #46 looked good, it makes me wonder what our FB can do that this kid could not....

as for the JET... whatever nickname or who ever he is... I don't hate the guy, I just didn't like the amount of money we gave to him??

Is that wrong??

What's he ever done to deserve that??

He got $11.7 million guaranteed....let's stop acting like he's getting $30 million.

Originally posted by 9moon:

AINT no hate brah... just my personal opinion.. ...

Just last year, I did not agree on giving our FB all that millions either... and as good as he was or he is, did we not over pay the guy???

We had a similar talented back up this year and saw him all pre-season... #46 looked good, it makes me wonder what our FB can do that this kid could not....

as for the JET... whatever nickname or who ever he is... I don't hate the guy, I just didn't like the amount of money we gave to him??

Is that wrong??

What's he ever done to deserve that??

Ain't no hate....as for JET whatever name or whoever he is

time to bring in Jaryd Hayne

Time for the underdog Brieda to shock up the world again.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Mckinnon said he'll be back better than ever. Can't wait for his 400 plus yards to hit our 2019 stat sheet.

lol why do you hate him so much? i dont get it

Just not happy with this signing. We've whiffed on RBs for a few years now.