Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hope they just release McKinnon when healthy - he's not going to be the same player.

What are you basing that on? Most players who just tear an ACL come back fine, it's the multiple ligament and cartilage tears who normally have issues.

McKinnon is a workout warrior as well, those types tend to recover better. I have faith.

He's a speed guy - it's going to take a year or two to get that speed back. I'd rather not have to wait for him to be 100% again.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hope they just release McKinnon when healthy - he's not going to be the same player.

What are you basing that on? Most players who just tear an ACL come back fine, it's the multiple ligament and cartilage tears who normally have issues.

McKinnon is a workout warrior as well, those types tend to recover better. I have faith.

He's a speed guy - it's going to take a year or two to get that speed back. I'd rather not have to wait for him to be 100% again.

Yeah, by next year, Kyle should have a draft pick to either back up McKinnon or replace him. The NFL is brutal, if you can't get it done because of injury or lack of ability, they will find a replacement one way or the other. ACL tear and speed just don't go together.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by mayo49:

I hope they just release McKinnon when healthy - he's not going to be the same player.

What are you basing that on? Most players who just tear an ACL come back fine, it's the multiple ligament and cartilage tears who normally have issues.

McKinnon is a workout warrior as well, those types tend to recover better. I have faith.

He's a speed guy - it's going to take a year or two to get that speed back. I'd rather not have to wait for him to be 100% again.

Yeah, by next year, Kyle should have a draft pick to either back up McKinnon or replace him. The NFL is brutal, if you can't get it done because of injury or lack of ability, they will find a replacement one way or the other. ACL tear and speed just don't go together.

Adrian Peterson was great after his ACL, Dalvin Cook will be an interesting one as well. This was done early enough that he has a full year to get healthy, I think he'll be fine.

I do concede that such is the nature of the RB position you probably need to draft one every other year anyway.

Originally posted by 9moon:
AINT no hate brah... just my personal opinion.. ...

Just last year, I did not agree on giving our FB all that millions either... and as good as he was or he is, did we not over pay the guy???

We had a similar talented back up this year and saw him all pre-season... #46 looked good, it makes me wonder what our FB can do that this kid could not....

as for the JET... whatever nickname or who ever he is... I don't hate the guy, I just didn't like the amount of money we gave to him??

Is that wrong??

What's he ever done to deserve that??

True Dat.

Forget about the money. That's on the front office. Amateurs

But what has done as a player? There are four years worth of tape on him. Nothing. No wiggle as a running back. He's a gimmick. How that was going to workout nobody knows. The Niners skewed their pay struct for an unproven gimmick. Like they did with the fullback. I like the fullback a whole lot better than this guy, but still, even he didn't get to produce nowhere close to how much he was paid. Maybe this year.

Back to McKinnon though. Funny how someone who had something to prove never gets to prove it. I'm sorry that it doesn't get to play out, because in my opinion, he wasn't going to be all that. Certain not what others couldn't do as well or better. Or certainly not what some are conjuring up in their minds

Regardless, it's really weak-minded to put out the excuse that the team won't make the pay-offs because of this guy. A completely unknown commodity. And I'm giving the guy a HUGE benefit of doubt in characterizing him as "unknown". Because as a running back he was zip. The team has better runbacks on the squad right now. Both Morris and Breida. Given the opportunity Breida may do just a well as the other guy on receptions; no one knows. It's in the scheme.

But more than that, the team has other weapons. Great WRs and JG. What exactly are they? Chump change? It's characteristic of a certain loser mentality to look for excuses for why a team is going to be bad because of some phantom reason. And before a single game is played. Any excuse will do.

Have a little more faith in the TEAM. The scheme. That's what wins games. Not gimmicks. JG is INFINITLY more valuable. And it's an insult to him. And the rest to be treated so lightly.

Let the games begin.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I hope they just release McKinnon when healthy - he's not going to be the same player.

What are you basing that on? Most players who just tear an ACL come back fine, it's the multiple ligament and cartilage tears who normally have issues.

McKinnon is a workout warrior as well, those types tend to recover better. I have faith.

He's a speed guy - it's going to take a year or two to get that speed back. I'd rather not have to wait for him to be 100% again.

Yeah, by next year, Kyle should have a draft pick to either back up McKinnon or replace him. The NFL is brutal, if you can't get it done because of injury or lack of ability, they will find a replacement one way or the other. ACL tear and speed just don't go together.

Adrian Peterson was great after his ACL, Dalvin Cook will be an interesting one as well. This was done early enough that he has a full year to get healthy, I think he'll be fine.

I do concede that such is the nature of the RB position you probably need to draft one every other year anyway.

I don't know too much about Adrian and I haven't watched him that often, but after that injury, just from my limited view of him before and after, there was some pizzaz missing. Whether it was just confidence or whether he lost a bit of agility and acceleration, I don't know, but he looked less snappy as a player to me. Also now you have to factor that the knee ligament isn't as strong as if it was uninjured. As you said, that position required constant draft capital investment.

Personally, I think Kyle/Turner have to develop Mostert into a receiving threat. I think this is Mostert's chance - with his speed - to break into the starting lineup if he can develop those hands of his. Same with Breida, if he can develop into a reliable receiver - he can do what McKinnon was supposed to do when healthy. As for Alfred, he's just not the receiving threat Kyle needs at the RB position on 3rd down. Alf's only averaged about 9 receptions *a year* in his career, so clearly he's not a receiving threat.

I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

Originally posted by PacTiger:
I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

I know his role is a gunner on special teams, that's where he's valued at. All I'm saying is that this is Mostert's chance to step up into more of a role for the team. It starts, I think, with him developing some soft reliable receiving hands. Whether he can do it or not, remains to be seen, but if he *can* -- he can be another McKinnon-like RB that can be very useful to Kyle not only on third downs, but all downs.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

I know his role is a gunner on special teams, that's where he's valued at. All I'm saying is that this is Mostert's chance to step up into more of a role for the team. It starts, I think, with him developing some soft reliable receiving hands. Whether he can do it or not, remains to be seen, but if he *can* -- he can be another McKinnon-like RB that can be very useful to Kyle not only on third downs, but all downs.

I hope he does well too.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I don't know too much about Adrian and I haven't watched him that often, but after that injury, just from my limited view of him before and after, there was some pizzaz missing. Whether it was just confidence or whether he lost a bit of agility and acceleration, I don't know, but he looked less snappy as a player to me. Also now you have to factor that the knee ligament isn't as strong as if it was uninjured. As you said, that position required constant draft capital investment.

Personally, I think Kyle/Turner have to develop Mostert into a receiving threat. I think this is Mostert's chance - with his speed - to break into the starting lineup if he can develop those hands of his. Same with Breida, if he can develop into a reliable receiver - he can do what McKinnon was supposed to do when healthy. As for Alfred, he's just not the receiving threat Kyle needs at the RB position on 3rd down. Alf's only averaged about 9 receptions *a year* in his career, so clearly he's not a receiving threat.

Uh, Adrian Peterson tore his ACL & MCL in Dec 2011, and was MVP in 2012.

McKinnon is also a workout junkie, he'll be fine.

Originally posted by mayo49:

He's a speed guy - it's going to take a year or two to get that speed back. I'd rather not have to wait for him to be 100% again.

Yea I agree , he more route running marshal Faulk type, this gonna be harder for that type of back

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
True Dat.

Forget about the money. That's on the front office. Amateurs

But what has done as a player? There are four years worth of tape on him. Nothing. No wiggle as a running back. He's a gimmick. How that was going to workout nobody knows. The Niners skewed their pay struct for an unproven gimmick. Like they did with the fullback. I like the fullback a whole lot better than this guy, but still, even he didn't get to produce nowhere close to how much he was paid. Maybe this year.

Back to McKinnon though. Funny how someone who had something to prove never gets to prove it. I'm sorry that it doesn't get to play out, because in my opinion, he wasn't going to be all that. Certain not what others couldn't do as well or better. Or certainly not what some are conjuring up in their minds

Regardless, it's really weak-minded to put out the excuse that the team won't make the pay-offs because of this guy. A completely unknown commodity. And I'm giving the guy a HUGE benefit of doubt in characterizing him as "unknown". Because as a running back he was zip. The team has better runbacks on the squad right now. Both Morris and Breida. Given the opportunity Breida may do just a well as the other guy on receptions; no one knows. It's in the scheme.

But more than that, the team has other weapons. Great WRs and JG. What exactly are they? Chump change? It's characteristic of a certain loser mentality to look for excuses for why a team is going to be bad because of some phantom reason. And before a single game is played. Any excuse will do.

Have a little more faith in the TEAM. The scheme. That's what wins games. Not gimmicks. JG is INFINITLY more valuable. And it's an insult to him. And the rest to be treated so lightly.

Let the games begin.

Been doing the family vacation thing. Just learned the news. I actually just used this post as kind of a pep talk. Thanks I guess.

Originally posted by PacTiger:

I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

No but his use and effectiveness on the Special teams is why he has a spot. He can return, and he's a solid gunner too.

Originally posted by kansasninerfan:
Been doing the family vacation thing. Just learned the news. I actually just used this post as kind of a pep talk. Thanks I guess.

Lol!!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by PacTiger:
I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

I know his role is a gunner on special teams, that's where he's valued at. All I'm saying is that this is Mostert's chance to step up into more of a role for the team. It starts, I think, with him developing some soft reliable receiving hands. Whether he can do it or not, remains to be seen, but if he *can* -- he can be another McKinnon-like RB that can be very useful to Kyle not only on third downs, but all downs.

You could use Mostert on runs where you're trying to get to the edge and specifically, on screen passes. But only a few snaps a game. He's not the worst runner and we never really got to see him play behind the 1's.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Originally posted by PacTiger:
I don't view Mostert as a rational option as a rb. I'm wondering if Wilson gets called up now.

No but his use and effectiveness on the Special teams is why he has a spot. He can return, and he's a solid gunner too.

It's a bummer, but I think we can hold things down with Morris and Breida.