Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

#49ers GM John Lynch on @KNBR said "yesterday was not encouraging" as far as RB Jerick McKinnon's return to practice. Lynch indicated he had another setback.

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) August 28, 2019

Yet another injury salary we'll never get to see in on the field. Is it too early to mention injury settlement and just move on?

It isn't too early to mention, but there is no great reason too. He got almost all his money last year. Might as well stash him on I.R. and pray for a miracle. Never know it could pay dividends if we lose a guy and he finally heals at the turn.

Ummmm, NO!! We cannot do that anymore! We just can't. At this point this is just money thrown in a black hole. Yet again we're paying for the hope of potential ironing out. This cannot continue in perpetuity. At some point we have to cut bait. I wish him the best and hope he heals completely to play again, but I say that we move on now.

You literally don't read do you...it costs money to cut him now...it doesn't save any.

I do read, quit well too!! I know it'll cost to cut him, over $2mil. And I still say it's time to move on with an injury settlement. Cap-wise that will not hurt the team that much. Currently we are $3,288,157 over the cap (https://overthecap.com/calculator/san-francisco-49ers/) Cutting bait with him now will put us at $1,150,000 over the cap, with all rookies signed.

Does it save today? No. Does it save in 2020? Yup!!! It pushes us up to $4,925,177 over our 2020 cap. That also reduces our total 2020 liabilities from $203,288,157 to $195,074,823; by my math that's an $8,213,334‬ swing in our 2020 cap favor.

I'm sorry Bro, but I say we cut loose of him now.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Okay. I dont know what mean is IR "Short-Term" then I get it now. I have a questions. If McKinnon will be on IR that he will still get earned "7 millions" this year?!

That's an AB question.

His cap hit is $5.7M not $7M. He's got $250K per game bonuses. I'm assuming he will not be getting those and will only be getting the $3.7M he got on 4/1.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
It's okay if he cant physically play then cut him. I am fine with Wilson signed for the roster. We have Breida, Coleman, Wilson and Morstert.

How many times does everyone have to say this.....They gain nothing by cutting him. They save nothing in cash. They can put him on short-term IR and fill his roster spot with someone else after cuts.

There is no point what so ever to cut him this yr.

90% of posters on the zone have literally ZERO idea about the business side of football. Frustrating engaging them in debates about roster decisions.

Lol this team has the worst luck! Im done with the jet.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Okay. I dont know what mean is IR "Short-Term" then I get it now. I have a questions. If McKinnon will be on IR that he will still get earned "7 millions" this year?!

That's an AB question.

His cap hit is $5.7M not $7M. He's got $250K per game bonuses. I'm assuming he will not be getting those and will only be getting the $3.7M he got on 4/1.

Thanks for the questions and make me feel better well. Thanks.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I do read, quit well too!! I know it'll cost to cut him, over $2mil. And I still say it's time to move on with an injury settlement. Cap-wise that will not hurt the team that much. Currently we are $3,288,157 over the cap (https://overthecap.com/calculator/san-francisco-49ers/) Cutting bait with him now will put us at $1,150,000 over the cap, with all rookies signed.

Does it save today? No. Does it save in 2020? Yup!!! It pushes us up to $4,925,177 over our 2020 cap. That also reduces our total 2020 liabilities from $203,288,157 to $195,074,823; by my math that's an $8,213,334? swing in our 2020 cap favor.

I'm sorry Bro, but I say we cut loose of him now.

Currently? you mean next yr...

as long as they cut him before 4/1/20 (when money becomes guaranteed) it's still the same result. They have to pay him regardless this yr, I see no advantage of cutting him now vs putting him on short-term IR? outside if you want to use that initial roster spot on someone. IMO I'm fine with him on the short-term IR then when that roster spot opens up they just scoop up someone that was cut.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
Thanks for the questions and make me feel better well. Thanks.

no prob

Originally posted by JayBomber:

Originally posted by cgida:

Put him on IR and roll with RM, Brieda and Coleman. Jeff Wilson can be stashed on the PS. We will be fine. I don't want to say move on from Jet but it appears he is not going to be available to play again this year. If the prognosis is bad then we might want to cut him and focus on extending Breida and Coleman.

Wilson will get swooped up instantly if we try to put him on the practice squad.

Why do people feel this way? We've had plenty of RB's light it up during preseason.

I don't get the love fest for Wilson at all.. He looks like a 3rd string RB..

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

#49ers GM John Lynch on @KNBR said "yesterday was not encouraging" as far as RB Jerick McKinnon's return to practice. Lynch indicated he had another setback.

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) August 28, 2019

Yet another injury salary we'll never get to see in on the field. Is it too early to mention injury settlement and just move on?

It isn't too early to mention, but there is no great reason too. He got almost all his money last year. Might as well stash him on I.R. and pray for a miracle. Never know it could pay dividends if we lose a guy and he finally heals at the turn.

Ummmm, NO!! We cannot do that anymore! We just can't. At this point this is just money thrown in a black hole. Yet again we're paying for the hope of potential ironing out. This cannot continue in perpetuity. At some point we have to cut bait. I wish him the best and hope he heals completely to play again, but I say that we move on now.

You literally don't read do you...it costs money to cut him now...it doesn't save any.

I do read, quit well too!! I know it'll cost to cut him, over $2mil. And I still say it's time to move on with an injury settlement. Cap-wise that will not hurt the team that much. Currently we are $3,288,157 over the cap (https://overthecap.com/calculator/san-francisco-49ers/) Cutting bait with him now will put us at $1,150,000 over the cap, with all rookies signed.

Does it save today? No. Does it save in 2020? Yup!!! It pushes us up to $4,925,177 over our 2020 cap. That also reduces our total 2020 liabilities from $203,288,157 to $195,074,823; by my math that's an $8,213,334‬ swing in our 2020 cap favor.

I'm sorry Bro, but I say we cut loose of him now.

They can't cut him now and save anything, he has a $2.6M Injury Guarantee in 2020, by cutting when injured it triggers that, thus we lose $2.6M in cap room either 2019 or 2020, not sure how it works with injury Guarantees. Eitherr way it's lost cap space.

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:
He was also never injured in four season then missed the 16 games for the 49ers for last year and this year?! He got 7 millions near 10 millions. He must play this year. Doenst matter about all human for us. My work is risk and injury too and not enough to pay. The footballs make good pay than work job. U know that?!

huh? if he can't physically play then he CAN'T play. What are you even getting at...

It's okay if he cant physically play then cut him. I am fine with Wilson signed for the roster. We have Breida, Coleman, Wilson and Morstert.

We have Coleman, Breida and Mostert. No chance they carry 4 RBs. Remember, we carry a FB aa well. Good thing Mostert takes up 2 spots, being the special teams gunner and an RB. Wilson is a helluva runner but has a history of fumbling that will hurt him when it comes to cut time.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

#49ers GM John Lynch on @KNBR said "yesterday was not encouraging" as far as RB Jerick McKinnon's return to practice. Lynch indicated he had another setback.

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) August 28, 2019

Yet another injury salary we'll never get to see in on the field. Is it too early to mention injury settlement and just move on?

It isn't too early to mention, but there is no great reason too. He got almost all his money last year. Might as well stash him on I.R. and pray for a miracle. Never know it could pay dividends if we lose a guy and he finally heals at the turn.

Ummmm, NO!! We cannot do that anymore! We just can't. At this point this is just money thrown in a black hole. Yet again we're paying for the hope of potential ironing out. This cannot continue in perpetuity. At some point we have to cut bait. I wish him the best and hope he heals completely to play again, but I say that we move on now.

You literally don't read do you...it costs money to cut him now...it doesn't save any.

I do read, quit well too!! I know it'll cost to cut him, over $2mil. And I still say it's time to move on with an injury settlement. Cap-wise that will not hurt the team that much. Currently we are $3,288,157 over the cap (https://overthecap.com/calculator/san-francisco-49ers/) Cutting bait with him now will put us at $1,150,000 over the cap, with all rookies signed.

Does it save today? No. Does it save in 2020? Yup!!! It pushes us up to $4,925,177 over our 2020 cap. That also reduces our total 2020 liabilities from $203,288,157 to $195,074,823; by my math that's an $8,213,334‬ swing in our 2020 cap favor.

I'm sorry Bro, but I say we cut loose of him now.

They can't cut him now and save anything, he has a $2.6M Injury Guarantee in 2020, by cutting when injured it triggers that, thus we lose $2.6M in cap room either 2019 or 2020, not sure how it works with injury Guarantees. Eitherr way it's lost cap space.

Hopefully this quiets the doomsayers. I doubt it though lol.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

#49ers GM John Lynch on @KNBR said "yesterday was not encouraging" as far as RB Jerick McKinnon's return to practice. Lynch indicated he had another setback.

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) August 28, 2019

Yet another injury salary we'll never get to see in on the field. Is it too early to mention injury settlement and just move on?

It isn't too early to mention, but there is no great reason too. He got almost all his money last year. Might as well stash him on I.R. and pray for a miracle. Never know it could pay dividends if we lose a guy and he finally heals at the turn.

Ummmm, NO!! We cannot do that anymore! We just can't. At this point this is just money thrown in a black hole. Yet again we're paying for the hope of potential ironing out. This cannot continue in perpetuity. At some point we have to cut bait. I wish him the best and hope he heals completely to play again, but I say that we move on now.

You literally don't read do you...it costs money to cut him now...it doesn't save any.

I do read, quit well too!! I know it'll cost to cut him, over $2mil. And I still say it's time to move on with an injury settlement. Cap-wise that will not hurt the team that much. Currently we are $3,288,157 over the cap (https://overthecap.com/calculator/san-francisco-49ers/) Cutting bait with him now will put us at $1,150,000 over the cap, with all rookies signed.

Does it save today? No. Does it save in 2020? Yup!!! It pushes us up to $4,925,177 over our 2020 cap. That also reduces our total 2020 liabilities from $203,288,157 to $195,074,823; by my math that's an $8,213,334‬ swing in our 2020 cap favor.

I'm sorry Bro, but I say we cut loose of him now.

They can't cut him now and save anything, he has a $2.6M Injury Guarantee in 2020, by cutting when injured it triggers that, thus we lose $2.6M in cap room either 2019 or 2020, not sure how it works with injury Guarantees. Eitherr way it's lost cap space.

I understand it. Thanks for explain that clear. Thanks AB81Rules.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Why do people feel this way? We've had plenty of RB's light it up during preseason.

I don't get the love fest for Wilson at all.. He looks like a 3rd string RB..

agreed. I feel like people don't pay attention to other teams and their rosters as well.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JayBomber:

Wilson will get swoop him up instantly if we try to put him on the practice squad.

Why?

Because as fans we overvalue the scrubs on our team and place an artificial value on them that doesn't exist.

One thing I will say is nobody on here knows his actual condition at the moment. But the fact he hasn't made it through a single practice this year is kind of telling. He could come back in a few months, nobody knows for sure.

But anyone who wants to feel bad for him and act like it's not his fault needs to remember when the staff asked him to wear a brace when he returned on August 6th and he refused. To me he incurs some responsibility for not doing what the medical staff told him he needed to do. Depending on how big of an issue it was I would consider taking it to arbitration if possible.

Also everyone who says cutting him helps nothing needs to think about the medical staff. They aren't going to fire someone because McKinnon gets cut. With all of our medical issues I would expect cutting one of the players likely consuming a lot those resources would free them up to concentrate on others that actually have a chance to help us down the road.