Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Yeah see I am not down with this in the slightest bit. First off, McKinnon would have to be playing on a minimum deal for me to even consider bringing him back. Secondly, if bringing McKinnon back meant cutting Coleman, then absolutely not.

What is this infatuation we have with McKinnon? Is it just because Kyle seems to like him? He hasnt averaged over 3.8 yards per carry since 2015, when he had a grand total of 52 carries. This is an easy cut IMO. He cant stay healthy, and hasnt really been all that good even when he was.

What's the infatuation with Coleman? He's not anything special and imo isn't worth $5M. Obviously it would be a incentive based deal with the Jet. They probably save more cash by restructuring him vs cutting him... If he's healthy there's not much Coleman does better than him. Basically going cheaper that's all. It's tough to bring up ypc for a guy that's been in another offense with a much worse OL.

I expect them to bring in another RB late in the draft or as a UDFA.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Yeah see I am not down with this in the slightest bit. First off, McKinnon would have to be playing on a minimum deal for me to even consider bringing him back. Secondly, if bringing McKinnon back meant cutting Coleman, then absolutely not.

What is this infatuation we have with McKinnon? Is it just because Kyle seems to like him? He hasnt averaged over 3.8 yards per carry since 2015, when he had a grand total of 52 carries. This is an easy cut IMO. He cant stay healthy, and hasnt really been all that good even when he was.

Well at this point it's about doing what's best Financially for the team and keep our core guys together, we can save more by restructuring his deal. If we release him we save $4.5 with a 4Mill dead cap, we're better off Restructuring and basically hope for a Jimmie Ward scenario that he's healthy. Plus he fits this system perfectly with his Speed and Agility, plus he's great out of the backfield receiving. worst case scenario, if he does get hurt, his contract is done next year anyway.

Releasing Coleman makes too much since too me, it'll free up $4.9 Mill and it's not like he is had a great season, he had two good games (CLE & CAR)

I would prefer us too just trade or release McKinnon also, but restructuring is the best way too go and just hope he doesn't aggravate his sh** again

Originally posted by NYniner85:

What's the infatuation with Coleman? He's not anything special and imo isn't worth $5M. Obviously it would be a incentive based deal with the Jet. They probably save more cash by restructuring him vs cutting him... If he's healthy there's not much Coleman does better than him. Basically going cheaper that's all. It's tough to bring up ypc for a guy that's been in another offense with a much worse OL.

I expect them to bring in another RB late in the draft or as a UDFA.

This makes no sense dude

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Yeah see I am not down with this in the slightest bit. First off, McKinnon would have to be playing on a minimum deal for me to even consider bringing him back. Secondly, if bringing McKinnon back meant cutting Coleman, then absolutely not.

What is this infatuation we have with McKinnon? Is it just because Kyle seems to like him? He hasnt averaged over 3.8 yards per carry since 2015, when he had a grand total of 52 carries. This is an easy cut IMO. He cant stay healthy, and hasnt really been all that good even when he was.

What's the infatuation with Coleman? He's not anything special and imo isn't worth $5M. Obviously it would be a incentive based deal with the Jet. They probably save more cash by restructuring him vs cutting him... If he's healthy there's not much Coleman does better than him. Basically going cheaper that's all. It's tough to bring up ypc for a guy that's been in another offense with a much worse OL.

I expect them to bring in another RB late in the draft or as a UDFA.

If the intent is to go cheaper, then we should just draft someone or sign a FA. I dont have an infatuation with Coleman. I think he is average. But average Coleman is undoubtedly better than what Jerrick has given us, or what Jerrick gave his old team the last 2 seasons. You dont think bringing up YPC is important with another team, but nfl.com ranked that other team as the 6th best OL in his last year there.

I am not a huge Coleman fan. If we can get someone better and/or someone cheaper, that would be fine by me. But Jerrick is not the replacement I want for Coleman. At least Coleman is fairly durable.

IF we choose to use Jerrick as Coleman's replacement, we really need to bring in 2 RBs to act as that replacement. Not sure how that makes sense to do.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

If the intent is to go cheaper, then we should just draft someone or sign a FA. I dont have an infatuation with Coleman. I think he is average. But average Coleman is undoubtedly better than what Jerrick has given us, or what Jerrick gave his old team the last 2 seasons. You dont think bringing up YPC is important with another team, but nfl.com ranked that other team as the 6th best OL in his last year there.

I am not a huge Coleman fan. If we can get someone better and/or someone cheaper, that would be fine by me. But Jerrick is not the replacement I want for Coleman. At least Coleman is fairly durable.

IF we choose to use Jerrick as Coleman's replacement, we really need to bring in 2 RBs to act as that replacement. Not sure how that makes sense to do.

He is not making any sense , if you cut Coleman. That leaves Mostert with two injury prone rb's. Shanahan is not that stupid , i rather they draft someone. You could potentially be down to 1 active rb on the roster

Coleman isn't that expensive for back. We're just spoiled by all the UDFAs that Kyle turns into 6 ypc monsters.

Jeff Wilson had 5 TD's in a limited role, he can fill Coleman spot if needed...I also fully expect them too draft or pick up someone for a cheaper price, just in case injuries too occur

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

If the intent is to go cheaper, then we should just draft someone or sign a FA. I dont have an infatuation with Coleman. I think he is average. But average Coleman is undoubtedly better than what Jerrick has given us, or what Jerrick gave his old team the last 2 seasons. You dont think bringing up YPC is important with another team, but nfl.com ranked that other team as the 6th best OL in his last year there.

I am not a huge Coleman fan. If we can get someone better and/or someone cheaper, that would be fine by me. But Jerrick is not the replacement I want for Coleman. At least Coleman is fairly durable.

IF we choose to use Jerrick as Coleman's replacement, we really need to bring in 2 RBs to act as that replacement. Not sure how that makes sense to do.

Dude their OL was NOT good. They've replaced center RT and one of the guard spots and shuffled Elflein around (who blows) since then.

I'm not saying Jerick is amazing. I'm saying if he's actually healthy and gonna cost them next to nothing why not see what he has? They already paid him.

Coleman isn't durable he missed how many games this yr? Like I said I still expect them to bring in either a late day 3 pick or UDFA guy regardless. There's literally nothing to lose with restructuring Jerrick and seeing what he's got

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

This makes no sense dude

Ha figured you'd say that. The one Coleman fan in here.

Originally posted by 49ers90sBaby:

He is not making any sense , if you cut Coleman. That leaves Mostert with two injury prone rb's. Shanahan is not that stupid , i rather they draft someone. You could potentially be down to 1 active rb on the roster

He's not worth his contract. Keep him on the team and you have 3 injury prone Rbs and mostert.

No one is saying they can't draft some late.

Originally posted by All22:

Coleman isn't that expensive for back. We're just spoiled by all the UDFAs that Kyle turns into 6 ypc monsters.

He's making damn near the same as Mark Ingram next yr. $5M on a team option isn't not nothing. Much rather give that money to someone else.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude their OL was NOT good. They've replaced center RT and one of the guard spots and shuffled Elflein around (who blows) since then.

I'm not saying Jerick is amazing. I'm saying if he's actually healthy and gonna cost them next to nothing why not see what he has? They already paid him.

Coleman isn't durable he missed how many games this yr? Like I said I still expect them to bring in either a late day 3 pick or UDFA guy regardless. There's literally nothing to lose with restructuring Jerrick and seeing what he's got

Coleman played in 17 games this season, and McKinnon played in ZERO in the last two seasons. I dont understand how you can call out Coleman's durability and at the same time use a "if McKinnon is healthy..." claim.

You claim we should restructure his contract. Ok....what do you suggest? His salary is going to be $6.5M for next season. Is he willing to take 15% of that? Because that's as much as I am willing to give him. And to be perfectly honest, that is even too much. He literally provided us NOTHING for the last 2 seasons. How can you be willing to "see what he gives us" if it means paying him more than what a minimum salary player would be paid?

No thanks.

Calling Coleman injury prone is ridiculous NY. You can make your points without putting a baseless label on him.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Calling Coleman injury prone is ridiculous NY. You can make your points without putting a baseless label on him.

Word.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Calling Coleman injury prone is ridiculous NY. You can make your points without putting a baseless label on him.

Dude missed like a month with an ankle injury. He dislocated his shoulder in the playoffs as well. If not for the extra time because of the SB he wouldn't have played.

Baseless my butt. He had like 130 carries this yr. he's not worth his cap hit this yr pain and simple.