Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by northvan49erman:

I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

The Malcom Smiths and Jerick Mckinnon's of the world add up, too. For example, we guaranteed $11.5M to Malcom Smith. Let's say Jerick McKinnon gets $11.5M guaranteed (comparable to what Dion Lewis got). We could've easily found cheap alternatives in the draft, and then pooled that $23M in saved money to go after a guy like Allen Robinson. Allen Robinson only got around $25M guaranteed from the Bears!

Can anyone really say they'd rather have Malcom Smith + Jerick McKinnon than a guy like Allen Robinson? I love what this regime is doing but they haven't been perfect. Some of these signings have been frivolous.

I honestly think Robinson was Chicago bound regardless of what the Niners did.

Also...the Niners are (and did last year) FRONT LOADING contracts. So while they are blowing money up front it keeps the team cap healthy while the team builds the talent base. Then they can release guys at their convience while increasing capspace down the road.

Originally posted by cciowa:

steve. i value your opinion and i know you really lobbied to dump hyde. are you ok with this guy? was there someone else not named frank gore you wanted in stead who is not already signed.. and do you think we will still draft a nice rookie? thank you cc

I liked Hyde. He ran hard and was a good team mate but he was a horrendous fit in our scheme. In Cleveland he will be a nice fit in a shotgun scheme. That's where he needs to play.

I thought we would make a play for Dion Lewis but McKinnon is younger and more explosive and has less injury concerns. Lewis and McKinnon were the 2 backs I thought we would target.

I admit I took a 2nd take at the McKinnon contract but I don't care what we pay him same as I don't care what we payed Juice. Both guys can create mis-matches and that's what good coordinators can take advantage of. Plus McKinnon is arguably one of the best receiving and pass blocking backs in the league. I really like this signing.

I think he plays the Tevin Coleman role here as a 1B. We need to find our Devonta Freeman 1A back and guys like LSU's Derriuce Guice in round 1, Georgia's Nick Chubb in round 2 or Oregon's Royce Freeman in round 3 would be excellent.

If I was a betting man I think we target Chubb. He had great SPARQ #'s and will excel in an outside zone.

1A- Nick Chubb
1B- Jerick McKinnon

I really like that.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Hyde > McKinnon

I am scratching my head over this one.

Hyde was a liability in pass pro. he took a lot of plays off. Shanny put in Breida many times after Hyde missed blocks.

This is true.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

That bears game is when I really took notice of him. Might've came on here and posted about him. Always thought he was just a backup until that game.

2016 had the opportunity to start but that line was so trash that not a single nfl player could run behind it

The last thing people should be worried about is the contract. Paraag never gets fleeced.

I'd more concerned about this affects what they do in the draft. I like McKinnon's receiving ability, but he also occupies a RB slot on the team that could have been used in favor of a more well-rounded RB.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
We don't know the contract details, so it is very, very important that everyone FREAK THE HELL OUT AND SAY THAT WE OVERPAID!!

My favorite post so far.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

It's funny, over in R/NFL you have Viking fans telling us we got a good player. We got fans of other teams talking about how he's gonna flourish in Kyle's system. Then you come to the webzone and people are having a damn meltdown .

Im not worried about the contract. How do yall not know by now to wait until the actual details of it come out before judging it?

Those fools aren't plugged into the team to see the good and bad. What do they know exactly?

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
He's a perfect fit but I want to see the contract details. I would have gone to about 6 on him but we do have a lot of room....if it's frontloaded then none of us will be complaining because it is unlikely that we use up all of our cap room this year.

I think it would be better for both parties if it is backloaded so he will be making money in his prime years. If it is front loaded, he will be in his prime and if he has success, will want to restructure because he will be an underpaid back.

I get what you're saying, I just don't want to overpay a back a few years from now since we don't know what our cap situation will be. If he isn't the perfect fit he is, at least we can walk away after a couple of years. At $7.5 I see him being middle of the pack at worst during his prime years in terms of salary. I don't see the RB market going up the way Bell wants it to.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

Redshirting a guy who plays the skill position that is the easiest college to NFL transition is not a promising start to his career.


If he doesn't step it up this offseason, he is gone.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
4th highest paid back in football, a guy who can't handle a full workload.

And who said that's the plan? He's gonna play more than RB man...I keep on saying look at kamara and how they use him.

I don't care how he gets yards as long as he does.

he has a dang good qb who will get him the ball. after all those years of hearing we will do more screens . they really misused frank in that area.... i trust we will finally see this with a good qb and a guy who will not drop the ball and do good things after the catch

This dude averaged 8.3 ypr and is gonna catch 70 balls next year. I'll allow it!

OMG he sucks!

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Originally posted by cciowa:
steve. i value your opinion and i know you really lobbied to dump hyde. are you ok with this guy? was there someone else not named frank gore you wanted in stead who is not already signed.. and do you think we will still draft a nice rookie? thank you cc

I liked Hyde. He ran hard and was a good team mate but he was a horrendous fit in our scheme. In Cleveland he will be a nice fit in a shotgun scheme. That's where he needs to play.

I thought we would make a play for Dion Lewis but McKinnon is younger and more explosive and has less injury concerns. Lewis and McKinnon were the 2 backs I thought we would target.

I admit I took a 2nd take at the McKinnon contract but I don't care what we pay him same as I don't care what we payed Juice. Both guys can create mis-matches and that's what good coordinators can take advantage of. Plus McKinnon is arguably one of the best receiving and pass blocking backs in the league. I really like this signing.

I think he plays the Tevin Coleman role here as a 1B. We need to find our Devonta Freeman 1A back and guys like LSU's Derriuce Guice in round 1, Georgia's Nick Chubb in round 2 or Oregon's Royce Freeman in round 3 would be excellent.

If I was a betting man I think we target Chubb. He had great SPARQ #'s and will excel in an outside zone.

1A- Nick Chubb
1B- Jerick McKinnon

I really like that.

Chubb's a 1st rounder now.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

Redshirting a guy who plays the skill position that is the easiest college to NFL transition is not a promising start to his career.

If he doesn't step it up this offseason, he is gone.

i am acting like he is not even on our roster

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

He was put on IR premature to stash him after a disappointing preseason/TC. His ankle healed and he could have played, if he can't contribute on ST, unlikely he makes the roster

Juice, Mackinnom, Breida, Mostert, plus one more.

Probably Joe vs McNichols vs one more guy they draft or udfa

The scouting staff had Joe off the board, but KS specifically requested him and Lynch went ahead with it