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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by krizay:
The same is true for the more important positions.

not really....How many 6th-7th RD CB/WR/OT/QB/EDGE guys are coming in day 1 and producing?

RB is a position that is very transferable from college to the NFL. It's a reason why you see a lot of rookie RBs become successful very quickly vs a lot of other positions.

There you go changing the argument again.

My comment was in reference to you saying as an UDFA you can choose where you go. As to why you'd spend a pick on a RB.

We both agree that a rookie RB that late has best chance of any other position. The same is true for UDFA. Which is why id rather draft other positions later that you think you can coach up. As oppose to risking them signing elsewhere as an UDFA. Because you can still find a RB that can produce day 1 as an UDFA. with a strong chance of it being the same guy you drafted

But im not going back and forth on this.
[ Edited by krizay on Mar 12, 2020 at 7:51 AM ]
Originally posted by krizay:
There you go changing the argument again.

My comment was in reference to you saying as an UDFA you can choose where you go. As to why you'd spend a pick on a RB.

We both agree that a rookie RB that late has best chance of any other position. The same is true for UDFA. Which is why id rather draft other positions later that you think you can coach up. As oppose to risking them signing elsewhere as an UDFA. Because you can still find a RB that can produce day 1 as an UDFA. with a strong chance of it being the same guy you drafted

But im not going back and forth on this.

How am I suppose to know that was what you were referencing? It was a pretty broad statement.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Why the hate? Colemans fine. He good.

he's avg and has gotten outplayed by a UDFA. This team is in need of cap relief and he happens to play the most replaceable position in football ….throw in he's on a team-option deal IMO it's a easy cut.

No he's not, your dead wrong.

And speaking of getting outplayed, Mostert got outplayed and couldn't win snaps over average talent like Mike Davis, Shaun Draughn and Dujuan Harris in 2016......

Not everything is so black and white. This offense is perfect for both Coleman and Raheem.
[ Edited by TheXFactor on Mar 12, 2020 at 9:59 AM ]
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
No he's not, your dead wrong.

And speaking of getting outplayed, Mostert got outplayed and couldn't win snaps over average talent like Mike Davis, Shaun Draughn and Dujuan Harris in 2016......

Not everything is so black and white. This offense is perfect for both Coleman and Raheem.

Explain how he's not avg?

35th in YPC, 35th in total yards, 38th in YPG. Had a whopping 180 yards receiving. What about any of that is NOT avg?

Yet he will be the 12th highest paid RB as of right now

Lol who gives a crap about 2016, which was under a completely different coaching staff with a completely different QB and OL?

They can replace his production for a fraction of his price.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 12, 2020 at 10:07 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
No he's not, your dead wrong.

And speaking of getting outplayed, Mostert got outplayed and couldn't win snaps over average talent like Mike Davis, Shaun Draughn and Dujuan Harris in 2016......

Not everything is so black and white. This offense is perfect for both Coleman and Raheem.

Explain how he's not avg?

35th in YPC, 35th in total yards, 38th in YPG. Had a whopping 180 yards receiving. What about any of that is NOT avg?

Yet he will be the 12th highest paid RB as of right now

Lol who gives a crap about 2016, which was under a completely different coaching staff with a completely different QB and OL?

They can replace his production for a fraction of his price.

He had a tiugh stretch in the middle of the season where he just didnt hit the gaps hard. Probably dinged up.

But....did he fumble? No. Did he block? Yes. And he played better post season.

Kyle loves that and im good with it too.

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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
He had a tiugh stretch in the middle of the season where he just didnt hit the gaps hard. Probably dinged up.

But....did he fumble? No. Did he block? Yes. And he played better post season.

Kyle loves that and im good with it too.

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He was an avg RB who was avg at everything you want a RB to do. He doesn't nothing great and is overpaid on a team that doesn't need to overpay for good RB and need cap relief
Still dumping on Coleman in here huh?

[ Edited by SteveWallacesHelmet on Mar 12, 2020 at 10:50 PM ]
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I just don't see McKinnon's knee getting any better. I'd move on from him and pick up Dion Lewis who is pretty much the same type of RB that McKinnon is. To start the season I'd go with:

Mostert
Coleman
Lewis
Wilson

I also don't think Breida comes back or wanted back, too injury prone.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
I just don't see McKinnon's knee getting any better. I'd move on from him and pick up Dion Lewis who is pretty much the same type of RB that McKinnon is. To start the season I'd go with:

Mostert
Coleman
Lewis
Wilson

I also don't think Breida comes back or wanted back, too injury prone.

McKinnon was way more explosive than Lewis ever was. So is Breida for that matter. It probably won't be any more difficult to restructure McKinnon than come up with a contract for Lewis lol. McKinnon probably ends up cheaper. If you think about it he had one injury and one setback. Plenty of guys have come back from ACLs.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He was an avg RB who was avg at everything you want a RB to do. He doesn't nothing great and is overpaid on a team that doesn't need to overpay for good RB and need cap relief

137 attempts 0 fumbles in 2019. A little better than average.

Fumbles on shannys mind with jimmy butterfingers at starter. 36 sacks, 5 fumbles.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Mar 13, 2020 at 4:29 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He was an avg RB who was avg at everything you want a RB to do. He doesn't nothing great and is overpaid on a team that doesn't need to overpay for good RB and need cap relief

Looks like tables have turned lol you said I was the only one that wanted to keep coleman. You keep calling Coleman avg but he is a damn good back. He was injured , its that simple. Looks like some of the fans agree that he is a good back and should keep him. Mostert and Breida have fumbled a lot , dont make the mistake of overlooking that, Breida is good for a big run but most of the time isn't a steady chain mover. Mckinnon is coming off a knee injury where he is knee probably wont be a 100%. You really think Kyle is going to leave it up to them ??
Originally posted by Kolohe:
I just don't see McKinnon's knee getting any better. I'd move on from him and pick up Dion Lewis who is pretty much the same type of RB that McKinnon is. To start the season I'd go with:

Mostert
Coleman
Lewis
Wilson

I also don't think Breida comes back or wanted back, too injury prone.

honestly there's no disadvantage to restructuring McK. You get more cap relief (vs just cutting him outright), get to see if there's anything left, and if there's not then you cut him in camp. You still end up saving more money by going this route.

I would much rather remove cash from the RB corp vs put more money into it signing Lewis. Just draft someone late that fit's the scheme. SF has a ton of late RD picks currently and probably end up with more after trade downs.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Still dumping on Coleman in here huh?


He's not good and is over paid don't know what else to tell ya prove me wrong.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He was an avg RB who was avg at everything you want a RB to do. He doesn't nothing great and is overpaid on a team that doesn't need to overpay for good RB and need cap relief

137 attempts 0 fumbles in 2019. A little better than average.

Fumbles on shannys mind with jimmy butterfingers at starter. 36 sacks, 5 fumbles.

So you're telling me we can't find a single RB in the draft or cheaper than Coleman that doesn't fumble the ball? Great let's pay him top 12 money so he can actually be avg at running the ball and catching the ball....but hey at least he will hold onto it.

What does JG have to do with Coleman?

Man people love to s**t on Jimmy G who actually performed well overall, but love to defend at s**tty RB and can't seem to fathom the concept of how replaceable the RB position is vs oh I don't know the QB position
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 13, 2020 at 6:17 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
So you're telling me we can't find a single RB in the draft or cheaper than Coleman that doesn't fumble the ball? Great let's pay him top 12 money so he can actually be avg at running the ball and catching the ball....but hey at least he will hold onto it.

What does JG have to do with Coleman?

Man people love to s**t on Jimmy G who actually performed well overall, but love to defend at s**tty RB and can't seem to fathom the concept of how replaceable the RB position is vs oh I don't know the QB position

You've let this go to your head. Why tf would you release coleman when he was a big reason you got to the playoffs in the first place ?? Im glad kyle doesnt think like you, you're leaving your rb group up to Mostert and Breida. He only had a few good games , noe if he actually sucks this season and we cant run the ball, you'll be asking for Coleman back
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