Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Yes you did say.

Who cares if it's Jimmy G or the offensive line. Point is we can't have backs fumbling too much because the ball is already on the ground too often. Anyway anyway we could do a lot worse than Coleman. He's a good guy to have

LOL he's a good guy. K

He's an avg RB who's paid too much to play a position you can get the same results from a draft pick.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why does everyone think that McKinnon can just come in and take a spot? He hasn't played in two years.

Jeez man....NO ONE is saying he's gonna come in an take a spot. Restructuring him GIVES SF a great cap relief. PERIOD.

He goes into TC/OTAs and is evaluated...if he blows big deal you cut him like you would months ago. The difference is he cost nothing to cut and you don't have dead money in 2021 either.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If you want to say he is overpaid, fine.

But you saying "he's not good" is absolutely laughable, especially when you say that at the same time you are advocating for Jerrick McKinnon.

Jerrick McKinnon HAS NEVER BEEN BETTER than Tevin Coleman. NEVER. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? And the fact that theres a very good chance JM isnt even as good as he was 2 years ago.

You have a totally biased opinion here for some reason, and you are masking that opinion with your money argument which we can all see right through. If your argument was 100% about money (which it isnt), then people wouldn't be debating with you about this as much. But you are continually dumping on Coleman and frankly it's getting quite ridiculous.

Please show me the stats of him being good?

35th in YPC. 35 in YPG. 38th in total yards...he had 180 receiving yards. Explain to me how that is NOT avg??

Go look at the games he didn't play and tell me if SF couldn't run the ball?

Please show me where I'm advocating for McKinnon??? Please show me. All I've ever said was the smart move is to restructure his contract. THAT'S IT. You then allow him to take part in TC/OTAs and if he blows whatever you cut him, just like you would earlier only difference is you save MORE money then if you cut him now AND you have no dead money in 2021 (unlike if you did by cutting him now).

Look at it logically instead of making up stuff like I'm bias. I'm dumping on Coleman because he's simply and avg RB that's on a team-option. He doesn't do anything that Mostert can't do better at this pt.

You're the one pretending like we can't replace 540 yards.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
And to expand even more, NY you are advocating restructuring McKinnon, cutting Coleman, and drafting a rookie.

You think Shanahan/Lynch, who sees this team as a Superbowl contender, would be good with having a RB corps of:

Mostert
McKinnon
Wilson
Rookie

?

Because I dont see any chance in hell that they would be comfortable with this.

Mostert is awesome. No problems there. If we get one snap of regular season play from McKinnon, that will be a pleasant surprise. His reliability couldnt possibly be closer to zero than it is. Wilson is fine as a 3rd back and goalline back I suppose. And a rookie? You cant say with any sort of certainty that this late round rookie can be reliable.

So basically, you have one reliable lead back, a good 3rd down back, and question marks. Yeah there is virtually no chance that is how we will construct our running game.

I guess you've never seen a shanahan rb room before.

any videos of this guy running yet?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
And before you talk about the money we need to re-sign Sanders, restructuring McKinnon (and eventually cutting) and dumping Solomon Thomas (a player that no objective person could believe is more valuable than Coleman), would accomplish basically the same thing in terms of saving money.

There are other creative ways to save money over cutting the 2nd most reliable running back on our team.

listen I'm not trying to be a dick but you clearly don't understand how the cap works.

Thomas' contract is completely GTD this yr. $8.9M is on the book regardless if he plays or is cut. The ONLY way they can save any money regarding Thomas is trading him AND they still have him on the books for $4.6M

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/san-francisco-49ers/

a couple reasons I bring up Coleman as a cut candidate....

1. He is on a team-option deal this yr. Which means he has NO GTD cash. SF has no dead money hit. The only other guys that are on this are Nzeocha/Person/Coleman. and IMO all three can go.

2. He plays the most replaceable position in the NFL. We have a staff and HC that seems to always find great scheme fit RBs and there's proof of that for decades.

3. He's an avg RB. He was 3rd in total yards in our RB room. He's stats from this past yr are avg in everything.

Cut him and Coleman. Bring back Breida on the cheap. We pay the most in the league for running backs. Kyle can get production from a UDFA. They just need t be fast.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Cut him and Coleman. Bring back Breida on the cheap. We pay the most in the league for running backs. Kyle can get production from a UDFA. They just need t be fast.

If it's about saving cash you're gonna restructure McK not just straight up cut him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why does everyone think that McKinnon can just come in and take a spot? He hasn't played in two years.

Jeez man....NO ONE is saying he's gonna come in an take a spot. Restructuring him GIVES SF a great cap relief. PERIOD.

He goes into TC/OTAs and is evaluated...if he blows big deal you cut him like you would months ago. The difference is he cost nothing to cut and you don't have dead money in 2021 either.

I'm just talking about him and his play. I could give a s**t about his contract issues.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Cut him and Coleman. Bring back Breida on the cheap. We pay the most in the league for running backs. Kyle can get production from a UDFA. They just need t be fast.

If it's about saving cash you're gonna restructure McK not just straight up cut him.

Oh yeah saw that dead cap number. Such a. Terrible contract.

Originally posted by mayo49:

I'm just talking about him and his play. I could give a s**t about his contract issues.

Well if you want SF to resign any starters or get someone in FA you should care about his contract.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Cut him and Coleman. Bring back Breida on the cheap. We pay the most in the league for running backs. Kyle can get production from a UDFA. They just need t be fast.

If it's about saving cash you're gonna restructure McK not just straight up cut him.

Oh yeah saw that dead cap number. Such a. Terrible contract.

For real

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

And before you talk about the money we need to re-sign Sanders, restructuring McKinnon (and eventually cutting) and dumping Solomon Thomas (a player that no objective person could believe is more valuable than Coleman), would accomplish basically the same thing in terms of saving money.

There are other creative ways to save money over cutting the 2nd most reliable running back on our team.

listen I'm not trying to be a dick but you clearly don't understand how the cap works.

Thomas' contract is completely GTD this yr. $8.9M is on the book regardless if he plays or is cut. The ONLY way they can save any money regarding Thomas is trading him AND they still have him on the books for $4.6M

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/san-francisco-49ers/

a couple reasons I bring up Coleman as a cut candidate....

1. He is on a team-option deal this yr. Which means he has NO GTD cash. SF has no dead money hit. The only other guys that are on this are Nzeocha/Person/Coleman. and IMO all three can go.

2. He plays the most replaceable position in the NFL. We have a staff and HC that seems to always find great scheme fit RBs and there's proof of that for decades.

3. He's an avg RB. He was 3rd in total yards in our RB room. He's stats from this past yr are avg in everything.

With the amount of resources for cap help we have in here, it's remarkable how little fans still even understand the basics. Madden has wrecked this generation. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

With the amount of resources for cap help we have in here, it's remarkable how little fans still even understand the basics. Madden has wrecked this generation. LOL

Right yet I get called bias...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Please show me the stats of him being good?

35th in YPC. 35 in YPG. 38th in total yards...he had 180 receiving yards. Explain to me how that is NOT avg??

Go look at the games he didn't play and tell me if SF couldn't run the ball?

Please show me where I'm advocating for McKinnon??? Please show me. All I've ever said was the smart move is to restructure his contract. THAT'S IT. You then allow him to take part in TC/OTAs and if he blows whatever you cut him, just like you would earlier only difference is you save MORE money then if you cut him now AND you have no dead money in 2021 (unlike if you did by cutting him now).

Look at it logically instead of making up stuff like I'm bias. I'm dumping on Coleman because he's simply and avg RB that's on a team-option. He doesn't do anything that Mostert can't do better at this pt.

You're the one pretending like we can't replace 540 yards.

2,944 yds, 28 touchdowns with the Falcons in three seasons... in a timeshare receiving less than 40% of play time...... thats not average dude

There's a reason Shanahan brought him to the 49ers. A back up running back putting up those numbers is ridiculous. Not many can do that..