Jerick 'Jet' McKinnon is a Chief.

Originally posted by Team49ers:

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:

Originally posted by 801niner:
Any power backs on the roster? Lol

Juice!

He is a bulldozer who can catch too.

Nice! Now if we can get a Juice 2.0 in the draft...

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Originally posted by northvan49erman:

I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

Lol.

Lol he brings up earl Mitchell's contract what? His cap hit is like $3.8 million wow just awful.

What a joke...people actually think players don't get overpaid a little in FA? Less then 24 hrs ago everyone was whining about not signing anyone NOW everyone is whining that we did...I see why we get called the whiners

If people can't open their eyes and see what Mckinnon will actually be in this offense (not just a RB) then I don't know what to tell ya.

I don't give to flying f**k if he gets yards on the ground or in the air but he's gonna happen in this system.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Hyde > McKinnon

I am scratching my head over this one.

Hyde was a liability in pass pro. he took a lot of plays off. Shanny put in Breida many times after Hyde missed blocks.

The real plus for Hyde is he never fumbled, and was certainly a decent runner. But he was not very elusive, and he did not run with the power that you would think someone in that type of body would. He took WAY too much punishment because he could not, or would not avoid hard contact. Can't say I know anything about McKinnon outside of a short highlight reel, but that Shanny obviously wants him badly is enough for me for now.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

Redshirting a guy who plays the skill position that is the easiest college to NFL transition is not a promising start to his career.

If he doesn't step it up this offseason, he is gone.

And if he steps it up, he stays

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by BuZzB05:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by SteveYoung:

Originally posted by Joecool:

This signing doesn't make sense to me. Does he have some secret knowledge on McKinnon? That type of RB could easily be had in the draft or possibly from TC roster cuts.

Roster cuts?

Lol. No

150 attempts for 570 yards at 3.8 per carry and he is not a good pass protector and is primarily a 3rd down back. Easily can get a RB like that from roster cuts, undrafted free agent or anything after the 4th round.

Joecool. Thank you for believe in me what I am saying it. We need looking for Stud Rush then sign LeGarrette Blount is cheap $$ than McKinnon.

Last time we overpaid for a Back...maybe Lynch will call Jet Mickinnon OW2.

I love you man! Kissfit!

We will see how this one goes but it was at a higher cost than we would like.

Guess we just need to trust Kyle in that this is a perfect fit for his offense.

Okay well, said.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Can't be that good. Dude only has like a 3-minute highlight video. He does have a controlled stride with a burst without being all jittery and choppy.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jiks:

I feel people are more worried about the $$$ than the impact. If he was signed for cheaper(haven't seen the details yet) I think they'd view this differently. I admittedly agree that the initial numbers seems pretty substantial.

We thought Sherman on two Achilles surgeries was getting $39.1M.

Nope...not even close.

Actually one Achilles surgery

Joe, RS did have some partial work done on the other Achilles. As it was explained, they(docs) did some work taking out parts of the other Achilles...whatever that means. Pretty much a quote from our GM.

I will say this about McKinnon. I didn't see much of the E/W running that has been attributed to him but wow does he ever deserve his nickname..."jet". The kid can run. He is way better speed wise than Carlos and does have some nice moves once he is in open field for YAC.

Originally posted by Heroism:

The last thing people should be worried about is the contract. Paraag never gets fleeced.

I'd more concerned about this affects what they do in the draft. I like McKinnon's receiving ability, but he also occupies a RB slot on the team that could have been used in favor of a more well-rounded RB.

And this is my issue in a nutshell. McKinnon is basically a much upgraded version lf Breida.




The 49ers are still in a position where they largely need a fulltime back and a guy to hand it off to power through inside the tackles unless people are expecting them to go outside zone 99.9% of the time.


Juice is not that guy.

Knowing the 49ers, they can probably cut McKinnon after one season with no effect on the cap. With that said, I'd like to hear from posters who are actually familiar with McKinnon's play.

How is he an outside zone runner? Inside? Pass protection? Pass catcher? Would you feel comfortable with McKinnon and Breida getting the lions share of carries next season?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

Redshirting a guy who plays the skill position that is the easiest college to NFL transition is not a promising start to his career.

If he doesn't step it up this offseason, he is gone.

The only think that makes his situation unique is the mental health issues. I think they redshirted him for that reason, put stashed him on IR under the guise of the wink-wink, nudge-nudge ankle injury.

However, I also thought his mental health issues were a huge red flag, so while it makes the situation unique, I don't think it's something that's going to magically disappear. It's sort of a double-edged sword.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
You act like Joe Williams is out of the league. He was stashed on IR. He wasn't ready in year one. Doesn't mean he has no future, nor does it mean Kyle sucks at choosing RBs.

Redshirting a guy who plays the skill position that is the easiest college to NFL transition is not a promising start to his career.

If he doesn't step it up this offseason, he is gone.

If that happens, then yes, we can say it was a terrible pick. Until then, it's still up in the air.

Originally posted by cNiner:

over paid for him , yes he can catch but had less catches than Carlos last year .

too bad what a waste of cap space I think its a panic signing .

This is a huge overreaction. He hardly played until Cook got injured. He's way better and was more effective then Hyde as a receiving rb. Not even close. Hyde had way more opportunities then MicKinnon did last year and he only had 8 less catches and about 70-75 yards more then Hyde.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

And this is my issue in a nutshell. McKinnon is basically a much upgraded version lf Breida.




The 49ers are still in a position where they largely need a fulltime back and a guy to hand it off to power through inside the tackles unless people are expecting them to go outside zone 99.9% of the time.


Juice is not that guy.

McNichols

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Originally posted by Heroism:

The last thing people should be worried about is the contract. Paraag never gets fleeced.

I'd more concerned about this affects what they do in the draft. I like McKinnon's receiving ability, but he also occupies a RB slot on the team that could have been used in favor of a more well-rounded RB.

That was my biggest concern with bringing in any FA RB as well...someone like Chubb/freeman in the mid rds and let them battle it out with Williams/bredia.

Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:

Originally posted by theduke85:

Originally posted by northvan49erman:
I know everyone is excited about the direction of this franchise. But people need to take a step back.

This is an awful contract for a player that should be making a third of what he signed for.

Add Earl Mitchell, Malcolm Smith, and Kyle Juszyzk to the mix and you've got a track record of overpaying for mediocre players/unimportant positions.

And I love everything Garoppolo, but time and again we're seeing franchises succeed when QBs are on their rookie contracts and they can use that cap space to build the rest of the team. 49ers could have gone that route, but opted to pay big at the QB position. Eagles and Rams are prime examples.

Pump the brakes.

The Malcom Smiths and Jerick Mckinnon's of the world add up, too. For example, we guaranteed $11.5M to Malcom Smith. Let's say Jerick McKinnon gets $11.5M guaranteed (comparable to what Dion Lewis got). We could've easily found cheap alternatives in the draft, and then pooled that $23M in saved money to go after a guy like Allen Robinson. Allen Robinson only got around $25M guaranteed from the Bears!

Can anyone really say they'd rather have Malcom Smith + Jerick McKinnon than a guy like Allen Robinson? I love what this regime is doing but they haven't been perfect. Some of these signings have been frivolous.

I honestly think Robinson was Chicago bound regardless of what the Niners did.

Also...the Niners are (and did last year) FRONT LOADING contracts. So while they are blowing money up front it keeps the team cap healthy while the team builds the talent base. Then they can release guys at their convience while increasing capspace down the road.

Of course, but front-loading deals or not, there are still other ways to use cap space. Why are they dropping $11.5M guaranteed on Malcom Smith? The guy doesn't move the needle at all. I'd much rather they didn't sign Smith at all, rolled over the cap, and then front-loaded the Garappolo contract even more than they already did.

I'm not saying these contracts are going to cripple the team, I'm just saying it's not a great use of resources.